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Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.04.14 20:46:00 -
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Aurum STD tanks and Aurum Proto Large Blasters.
Not a Pay to Win game at all. |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
280
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Posted - 2013.04.14 20:47:00 -
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First to comment, lastn++ to get laid |
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undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
258
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Posted - 2013.04.14 20:48:00 -
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Inb4baconlock |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
126
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Posted - 2013.04.14 20:51:00 -
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Aurum tanks.... the finest in garbage vehicles you can purchase. |
Gelan Corbaine
BetaMax. CRONOS.
122
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Posted - 2013.04.14 20:52:00 -
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They blow up as well as any other tank. *pats forge*
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Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
186
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Posted - 2013.04.14 20:53:00 -
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This is an outrage, I mean it not like we can buy this stuff for ISK, thus making it pay to grind less rather than pay to win! Oh, wait, you can buy them with ISK, never mind - OP is dumb. |
Hecarim Van Hohen
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
18
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Posted - 2013.04.14 20:54:00 -
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Yup, those tanks are so totally worth it. (Obvious sarcasm)
They get destroyed like any other tank in game. |
Casius Hakoke
Fenrir's Wolves
69
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Posted - 2013.04.14 20:54:00 -
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So, if I'm not mistaken. Just like using drop suits that you don't have the skills to support, using tanks that you don't have the skills to support just ends up in wasted money. Interesting. |
Nylithe Empyreal
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.14 20:55:00 -
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If you thought the EVE forums were bad... |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2490
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Posted - 2013.04.14 21:04:00 -
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From what I've heard (don't own one myself), they do have (slightly) better PG/CPU stats than the ISK equivalents - at least on the tanks.
That makes them just as pay-to-win as the 'Broadside' HMG used to be when it had reduced PG/CPU cost compared with the ISK version, and that got fixed.
If this is true, it should also be fixed. |
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Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers EoN.
90
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Posted - 2013.04.14 21:09:00 -
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Put it this way if you are a character who has a minimum points into armor (I believe it's level 3 in it) you can have a beast madruger build that would normally require 4+ million skill points. So now every heavy in the game can now pull out a top end tank without having to spend an additional skill points... Sure most of these AUR tanks blow up easy because they are either fit out wrong, however now everytime i play this game i have to deal with 3-4 aurum tanks on the field every game I play.
It also makes actually skilling into tank something only a ****** would do because In all honesty the Surya and Sargaris are not a huge upgrade to the Madruger and the Gunloggi, and you get the best turret in the game. So anyone speccing into tanks just pidgeons holes themselves into being useless doing anything else and a random player can easily match up against their tank. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2762
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Posted - 2013.04.14 21:19:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Aurum tanks.... the finest in garbage vehicles you can purchase.
Pretty much this....just for the sole reason that the ppl spending the AUR on these more often than not dont have the required skils to fit proper modules to make a decent fit.
AUR tanks are the same as any other AUR gear dont see why tankers should be left out when infantry can get suits earlier thats all it comes down to....gettin stuff a little earlier
lvl 3 for proto turrets? LOL its not even the best proto turret its like 4dmg points higher than an adv blaster and the AUR proto rail is the **** ver not the compressed
so really when u look at it those AUR tanks even if they using the AUR turret isnt really anything special. |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
154
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Posted - 2013.04.14 21:40:00 -
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Stop Bitching, Get Killing! |
BlG MAMA
PLAYSTATION4
50
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Posted - 2013.04.14 22:04:00 -
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bad choice for CCP to go with the P2W model , game wont last , it will get ported to PC when they will see its dead on PS3 |
Icy TIG3R
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
91
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Posted - 2013.04.14 22:05:00 -
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Without the proper skills, those turrets and tanks are complete garbage. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
163
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Posted - 2013.04.14 22:05:00 -
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literally just got level 5 grenadier and lai dai packed av grenades
please throw more real money tanks at me |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2763
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Posted - 2013.04.14 22:07:00 -
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Icy TIG3R wrote:Without the proper skills, those turrets and tanks are complete garbage.
#Logic |
BlG MAMA
PLAYSTATION4
50
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Posted - 2013.04.14 22:09:00 -
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Icy TIG3R wrote:Without the proper skills, those turrets and tanks are complete garbage.
u dont go and buy those turrets if u dont have skills |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
190
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Posted - 2013.04.15 00:06:00 -
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BlG MAMA wrote:Icy TIG3R wrote:Without the proper skills, those turrets and tanks are complete garbage. u dont go and buy those turrets if u dont have skills Actually, you do. Something to do with requiring less skills to use... |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
860
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Posted - 2013.04.15 00:09:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:This is an outrage, I mean it not like we can buy this stuff for ISK, thus making it pay to grind less rather than pay to win! Oh, wait, you can buy them with ISK, never mind - OP is dumb. You clearly don't belong on this forum, GTFOH with your "logic" |
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
133
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Posted - 2013.04.15 00:20:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:From what I've heard (don't own one myself), they do have (slightly) better PG/CPU stats than the ISK equivalents - at least on the tanks.
That makes them just as pay-to-win as the 'Broadside' HMG used to be when it had reduced PG/CPU cost compared with the ISK version, and that got fixed.
If this is true, it should also be fixed. that's for the tanks in the assault pack which is basically empowered militia tanks and we all those are still pretty easy kills. the AUR ones are the same as the ISK ones so no its not pay to win. plus the AUR turrets require level 4(x type) small plus level 3 (x type) large turret skills plus the 1level turret operation so it like all the rest of the AUR proto weapons requires some skill as the isk version but not the same amount. point being is don't complain if you don't know anything about them just they are AUR as you look like a fool that no one wants to hear from. |
GeneralButtNaked
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
299
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Posted - 2013.04.15 00:21:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:This is an outrage, I mean it not like we can buy this stuff for ISK, thus making it pay to grind less rather than pay to win! Oh, wait, you can buy them with ISK, never mind - OP is dumb.
Clearly you don't know about the real P2W stuff on the market.
I'm not saying these turrets and vehicles are, because I know the turrets are not, but the tank hulls might be if the stats are not equal.
However, there are other items that are clearly P2W, because they do not offer early access, but rather better(lower) fitting reqs.
So yes, these tanks are not P2W, but there are other items of that type in the market. So do not be surprised to see that extend into vehicle modules after the 6th. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
303
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Posted - 2013.04.15 00:24:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:This is an outrage, I mean it not like we can buy this stuff for ISK, thus making it pay to grind less rather than pay to win! Oh, wait, you can buy them with ISK, never mind - OP is dumb. You clearly don't belong on this forum, GTFOH with your "logic"
Ryder Azorria was right. Op was not. |
DigiOps
DUST University Ivy League
110
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Posted - 2013.04.15 00:30:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Aurum tanks.... the finest in garbage vehicles you can purchase. True that. Took 'em both for a test drive. Why complain about garbage tanks? Let them waste their AUR.
Edit: Pay to get it faster =/= pay to win. Real talk. |
Jotun Hiem
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
531
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Posted - 2013.04.15 01:45:00 -
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Every time I see an Aurum tank I end up destroying it.
The drivers are never any good. |
Geth Massredux
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
139
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Posted - 2013.04.15 01:57:00 -
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Anyways Just destroy the aurum bought tanks= LOLZ= Problem solved. Not pay to win game. Even though I destroyed them with either proto swarms, 9k330 forge gun, or packed AV.... |
Re Warping Shooter
Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS.
1
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Posted - 2013.04.15 03:43:00 -
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Even if everyone already knows this, im just going to remind OP...
P2W Games = Get total (Or mayorital) advantage over other players by paying to ingame stuff. The stuff needs to be a total advantage bullshit over regular stuff and can only be aquired by wasting your money.
Dust 514 = Pay to get Aurum = Getting good stuff that anyone can get just that faster.
And about the Aurum tanks... They go down faster than an LAV.
Nuff said. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
262
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Posted - 2013.04.15 03:45:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:Aurum STD tanks and Aurum Proto Large Blasters.
Not a Pay to Win game at all.
lol.
heh.
Oh, serious?
How'd you like to work for free?
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DISASTERBUG WARLORD6
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.04.15 04:00:00 -
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I don't even think I'm good with buying things in the game O_o it's confusing at first, then I got the hang of it.. then it just got confusing again |
Tyrin Tonious
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.04.15 04:09:00 -
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These guys spouting pay to win pay to win are so clueless. They themselves have probably blown a lot of isk on incorrectly skilled items and died to many times too everyone and the only thing they can complain about are Aur items.
Balance is one thing, but for every Aur (proto/adv) there is an ISk ver. one tier higher. Aur items allows people who don't have as much time to use Proto/Adv Aur items so that they can hopefully compete with people whom has a lot of time, SP, and Isk.
LMFAO, sheesh |
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Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
46
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Posted - 2013.04.15 04:22:00 -
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It's easy to spot a bought tank with the free fittings. Things get a little surprising when the person uses the saved isk from the tank purchase for fittings. I've seen it a couple times. May might end even that depending how far CCP decides to separate Dropsuit and Vehicle fitting skills. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
840
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Posted - 2013.04.15 04:25:00 -
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lol Aurum Tanks.
Ohshit, a Shield Tank is rushing me?! lolnvm it's a Aurum Tank, the guy is probably a complete idiot when it comes to tanks *Aurum Tank explodes a moment later* lol what a mug.
The above was every situation I've been in with an Aurum Shield Tanker, Armor tankers are even better as they don't know what to do and get blown up by swarms, woo. |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
243
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Posted - 2013.04.15 05:10:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:This is an outrage, I mean it not like we can buy this stuff for ISK, thus making it pay to grind less rather than pay to win! Oh, wait, you can buy them with ISK, never mind - OP is dumb. +1 |
blue gt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.04.15 10:40:00 -
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I hate feeding fuel to the fire, but yea CCP please get the open market up and running before adding any more ridiculous stuff like this. That said if this is just to get tanks tested more and these and the neos are getting pulled once you are done, test away just please give us a heads up. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
131
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Posted - 2013.04.15 11:12:00 -
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Iv tested the aur tanks in comparison to my isk tanks also comoaird the proto turrets and found them to only be of any use to thise of us who have put skills into tanking. I will admit the aur option for seasond tankers is welcome as it provides two things for us . 1 lots if people with ill fitted tanks to destroy .and 2 an option so we can save some isk for our corps. Aur tanks and turrets are not pay to win when a seasoned tanker is behind the wheel as most of the aur tanks I have melted have been really ill fitted and obviously have new pilots behind the traks. Just my 0.02 isk |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
211
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Posted - 2013.04.15 11:40:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:Aurum STD tanks and Aurum Proto Large Blasters.
Not a Pay to Win game at all.
Is this thread really about me?
I did destroy a Sagaris with an AUR Madrugar and AUR proto blaster turret last night
Mainly it was down to tactics and that i hit at the right time and creamed the tanker |
Ten Wolves
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.04.15 11:41:00 -
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Sylvana Nightwind wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:This is an outrage, I mean it not like we can buy this stuff for ISK, thus making it pay to grind less rather than pay to win! Oh, wait, you can buy them with ISK, never mind - OP is dumb. +1
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Muramasa Armads
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
4
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Posted - 2013.04.15 12:25:00 -
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IGÇÖm more annoyed with people having the ability to pay for AUR prototype drop suits than AUR vehicles. These vehicles are easy to destroy and are not an issue at all. I look forward to seeing these AUR tanks because they are usually used by amateurs who have no idea what they are doing. They havenGÇÖt skilled into Tanks properly and are easy fodder for my Forge Gun. I have also noticed that AUR tankers are really stubborn and continue to bring in their garbage tanks. If you donGÇÖt have decent Anti-vehicle weaponry then that is your problem. Standard AV is more than enough to deal with these pretenders. |
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