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Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.04.14 23:53:00 -
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Victin Ashis wrote: From Gamespot's Site which still has original disclamer:
*IMPORTANT NOTICE: During beta periods, CCP may need to reset characters, skills and other items included in the DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack. DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack will be credited in full to your in-game DUST 514-« account after each character reset and for the commercial release. CCP cannot guarantee all items will be identical and reserves the right to substitute items of similar value. No other form of refund is permitted.
People are reading that to mean that a character reset and Merc pack reset are separate but they are not and never had been, and anyone with a shred of common sense would realize that. This part "DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack will be credited in full to your in-game DUST 514-« account after each character reset and for the commercial release. " being part of the overall disclaimer is specifically referring to a commercial reset at release, whether people are interpereting it that way or not.
Sorry but your understanding of the English language is incorrect. The word AND indicates to seperate conditions. For example: If I was applying for a job that required me to have my Masters in Mathematics and to speak French then I would not get the job, because i do not speak French. |
Maken Tosch
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
1979
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Posted - 2013.04.14 23:57:00 -
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Mr Gloo Gloo wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:No more SP resets according to CCP. The source of this information is posted on the stickies. Uh ?? Sorry, where is it, cause i can't find it... I know he existed, but I think he's not anymor ...
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=598443#post598443
Save this in your favorites.
Apparently CCP removed the sticky thread I referred to. WTF CCP? |
Victin Ashis
Universal Allies Inc.
15
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Posted - 2013.04.15 02:09:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:Victin Ashis wrote: From Gamespot's Site which still has original disclamer:
*IMPORTANT NOTICE: During beta periods, CCP may need to reset characters, skills and other items included in the DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack. DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack will be credited in full to your in-game DUST 514-« account after each character reset and for the commercial release. CCP cannot guarantee all items will be identical and reserves the right to substitute items of similar value. No other form of refund is permitted.
People are reading that to mean that a character reset and Merc pack reset are separate but they are not and never had been, and anyone with a shred of common sense would realize that. This part "DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack will be credited in full to your in-game DUST 514-« account after each character reset and for the commercial release. " being part of the overall disclaimer is specifically referring to a commercial reset at release, whether people are interpereting it that way or not.
Sorry but your understanding of the English language is incorrect. The word AND indicates to seperate conditions. For example: If I was applying for a job that required me to have my Masters in Mathematics and to speak French then I would not get the job, because i do not speak French.
No it does not, because if they never had a character reset there would never be any reason to refund the merc pack. The entire disclaimer deals with character resets FFS. How is that so ******* difficult to understand. EVERYTHING in the disclaimer is to do with character resets. |
Maken Tosch
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
1986
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Posted - 2013.04.15 02:32:00 -
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Victin Ashis wrote:Deluxe Edition wrote:Victin Ashis wrote: From Gamespot's Site which still has original disclamer:
*IMPORTANT NOTICE: During beta periods, CCP may need to reset characters, skills and other items included in the DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack. DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack will be credited in full to your in-game DUST 514-« account after each character reset and for the commercial release. CCP cannot guarantee all items will be identical and reserves the right to substitute items of similar value. No other form of refund is permitted.
People are reading that to mean that a character reset and Merc pack reset are separate but they are not and never had been, and anyone with a shred of common sense would realize that. This part "DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack will be credited in full to your in-game DUST 514-« account after each character reset and for the commercial release. " being part of the overall disclaimer is specifically referring to a commercial reset at release, whether people are interpereting it that way or not.
Sorry but your understanding of the English language is incorrect. The word AND indicates to seperate conditions. For example: If I was applying for a job that required me to have my Masters in Mathematics and to speak French then I would not get the job, because i do not speak French. No it does not, because if they never had a character reset there would never be any reason to refund the merc pack. The entire disclaimer deals with character resets FFS. How is that so ******* difficult to understand. EVERYTHING in the disclaimer is to do with character resets.
I contest to that statement. Deluxe is right. The wording of the merc pack clearly treats "reset" and "commercial release" as two separate things. If they are one and the same, then the wording would have been like this:
=============================== ===Possible Alternative Description=== =============================== *IMPORTANT NOTICE: During beta periods, CCP may need to reset characters, skills and other items included in the DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack. DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack will be credited in full to your in-game DUST 514-« account after each character reset and for the commercial release which will include a final reset. CCP cannot guarantee all items will be identical and reserves the right to substitute items of similar value. No other form of refund is permitted. ===============================
But the description doesn't say that. I hate it when people twist the words of a simple statement. CCP is not going to reset anyone's accounts upon commercial release because A) they clearly stated there will be no more resets after Jan 2013 and B) the description itself makes no mention of a coming reset.
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Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1119
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Posted - 2013.04.15 02:33:00 -
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Victin Ashis wrote:Deluxe Edition wrote:Victin Ashis wrote: From Gamespot's Site which still has original disclamer:
*IMPORTANT NOTICE: During beta periods, CCP may need to reset characters, skills and other items included in the DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack. DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack will be credited in full to your in-game DUST 514-« account after each character reset and for the commercial release. CCP cannot guarantee all items will be identical and reserves the right to substitute items of similar value. No other form of refund is permitted.
People are reading that to mean that a character reset and Merc pack reset are separate but they are not and never had been, and anyone with a shred of common sense would realize that. This part "DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack will be credited in full to your in-game DUST 514-« account after each character reset and for the commercial release. " being part of the overall disclaimer is specifically referring to a commercial reset at release, whether people are interpereting it that way or not.
Sorry but your understanding of the English language is incorrect. The word AND indicates to seperate conditions. For example: If I was applying for a job that required me to have my Masters in Mathematics and to speak French then I would not get the job, because i do not speak French. No it does not, because if they never had a character reset there would never be any reason to refund the merc pack. The entire disclaimer deals with character resets FFS. How is that so ******* difficult to understand. EVERYTHING in the disclaimer is to do with character resets.
That's just blatantly wrong. Learn to read bro. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
142
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Posted - 2013.04.15 03:40:00 -
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Omg icy tiger. How many threads on the same subject do you gotta start? U r fishing for likes? Is it really as petty as that? |
Victin Ashis
Universal Allies Inc.
15
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Posted - 2013.04.15 04:31:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Victin Ashis wrote:Deluxe Edition wrote:Victin Ashis wrote: From Gamespot's Site which still has original disclamer:
*IMPORTANT NOTICE: During beta periods, CCP may need to reset characters, skills and other items included in the DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack. DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack will be credited in full to your in-game DUST 514-« account after each character reset and for the commercial release. CCP cannot guarantee all items will be identical and reserves the right to substitute items of similar value. No other form of refund is permitted.
People are reading that to mean that a character reset and Merc pack reset are separate but they are not and never had been, and anyone with a shred of common sense would realize that. This part "DUST 514-« GameStop Mercenary Pack will be credited in full to your in-game DUST 514-« account after each character reset and for the commercial release. " being part of the overall disclaimer is specifically referring to a commercial reset at release, whether people are interpereting it that way or not.
Sorry but your understanding of the English language is incorrect. The word AND indicates to seperate conditions. For example: If I was applying for a job that required me to have my Masters in Mathematics and to speak French then I would not get the job, because i do not speak French. No it does not, because if they never had a character reset there would never be any reason to refund the merc pack. The entire disclaimer deals with character resets FFS. How is that so ******* difficult to understand. EVERYTHING in the disclaimer is to do with character resets. That's just blatantly wrong. Learn to read bro.
What specifically am I wrong on? Why would they need to reset aurum if they weren't planning on resetting characters during beta? Everything that you buy with aurum is consumable save bpo's. The reason that they were refunding during character reset is because the benefits of aurum bought items were being erased with the reset, hence they needed to reset to ensure you got what you paid for with the merc pack. since there are no further reset's now there is no further need to refund. Everyone who purchased the merc pack got every single item listed in the description. What they didn't get was the common sense to realize that no more char reset meant no more merc pack refunds.
P.S. before anyone even says it the disclaimer is NOT an item in the Merc pack.
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Schalac 17
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
20
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Posted - 2013.04.17 20:00:00 -
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Victin Ashis wrote:
What specifically am I wrong on? Why would they need to reset aurum if they weren't planning on resetting characters during beta? Everything that you buy with aurum is consumable save bpo's. The reason that they were refunding during character reset is because the benefits of aurum bought items were being erased with the reset, hence they needed to reset to ensure you got what you paid for with the merc pack. since there are no further reset's now there is no further need to refund. Everyone who purchased the merc pack got every single item listed in the description. What they didn't get was the common sense to realize that no more char reset meant no more merc pack refunds.
P.S. before anyone even says it the disclaimer is NOT an item in the Merc pack.
Man with tiny brain amuse Schalac 17. |
Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
123
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Posted - 2013.04.17 20:02:00 -
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Woohoo! Necroing threads! |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1169
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Posted - 2013.04.17 20:04:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Woohoo! Necroing threads!
It's only 2 days old |
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Icy TIG3R
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
109
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Posted - 2013.04.17 20:16:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Omg icy tiger. How many threads on the same subject do you gotta start? U r fishing for likes? Is it really as petty as that? I've made two, and on this alt, so I really don't care about likes lol... |
Illuminaughty-696
Omega Risk Control Services
253
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Posted - 2013.04.17 20:38:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:Drud Green wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:[quote=JL3Eleven]So why all the arguing and not asking for answers from CCP? That's where we all should focus our attention and not wait till May You're the ones posting it on the forums instead of emailing support like you're supposed to. I do believe icey authored this thread opposed to consumer rights, not one of the people defending them. The player proposed refund for reset deal is not a violation of your consumer rights in any way shape or form - It is in fact the fairest option currently on the table. Get over yourself. EDIT: It is also worth mentioning, again, that there are several articles in the EULA (a legally binding document which we all signed) in which you waive your consumer rights with regards to in game items.
lol. Fact, huh? It's always the people that have no basis for their facts that remind us of how factual they are being. |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1176
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Posted - 2013.04.17 22:53:00 -
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It's a fact that the most fair thing to do would be to reset everyone EXCEPT for the people who bought the original Merc Pack.
Because facts people, facts. |
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