DUST Search - REQUEST= remove Vehicles from AMBUSH

Ulysses Knapse wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Well thats it.
I know some people need to spawn 3 tanks in an Ambush game to pad their stats vs blueberries,but taking into consideration is the game type that reflects your K/D ratio i dont think its fair to spawn 5 times in a row surrounded by tanks and enemy soldiers.
Vehicles for skirmish, where they are needed.

Its funny seeing people with 45+ K-D ratio and they still think they are good because they tank spawn kill in ambush all day......

REMOVE VEHICLES FROM AMBUSH.

They are not welcome there.

Yes, it must be the tankers, not the people who roll around in Prototype Assault Dropsuits trolling around with Complex Damage Modifiers and Duvolle Assault Rifles, obviously. Of course it isn't fair, but then again, fighting someone who is actually good at a game is unfair if you know nothing about the game. Playing on Hardcore mode when you've never played before is unfair. Doing parkour in real life when you are eighty pounds overweight is unfair. If you don't like vehicles, you can always skill up Anti-Vehicle. Tankers love their tanks, and if you can extract many tears from blowing them up.

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KING CHECKMATE Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation 20	Posted - 2013.04.14 07:34:00 - [1] - Quote Well thats it. I know some people need to spawn 3 tanks in an Ambush game to pad their stats vs blueberries,but taking into consideration is the game type that reflects your K/D ratio i dont think its fair to spawn 5 times in a row surrounded by tanks and enemy soldiers. Vehicles for skirmish, where they are needed. Its funny seeing people with 45+ K-D ratio and they still think they are good because they tank spawn kill in ambush all day...... REMOVE VEHICLES FROM AMBUSH. They are not welcome there.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 858	Posted - 2013.04.14 07:36:00 - [2] - Quote Good luck, you'll need it.
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 237	Posted - 2013.04.14 07:43:00 - [3] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Well thats it. I know some people need to spawn 3 tanks in an Ambush game to pad their stats vs blueberries,but taking into consideration is the game type that reflects your K/D ratio i dont think its fair to spawn 5 times in a row surrounded by tanks and enemy soldiers. Vehicles for skirmish, where they are needed. Its funny seeing people with 45+ K-D ratio and they still think they are good because they tank spawn kill in ambush all day...... REMOVE VEHICLES FROM AMBUSH. They are not welcome there. Yes, it must be the tankers, not the people who roll around in Prototype Assault Dropsuits trolling around with Complex Damage Modifiers and Duvolle Assault Rifles, obviously. Of course it isn't fair, but then again, fighting someone who is actually good at a game is unfair if you know nothing about the game. Playing on Hardcore mode when you've never played before is unfair. Doing parkour in real life when you are eighty pounds overweight is unfair. If you don't like vehicles, you can always skill up Anti-Vehicle. Tankers love their tanks, and if you can extract many tears from blowing them up.
KING CHECKMATE Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation 20	Posted - 2013.04.14 07:48:00 - [4] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Well thats it. I know some people need to spawn 3 tanks in an Ambush game to pad their stats vs blueberries,but taking into consideration is the game type that reflects your K/D ratio i dont think its fair to spawn 5 times in a row surrounded by tanks and enemy soldiers. Vehicles for skirmish, where they are needed. Its funny seeing people with 45+ K-D ratio and they still think they are good because they tank spawn kill in ambush all day...... REMOVE VEHICLES FROM AMBUSH. They are not welcome there. Yes, it must be the tankers, not the people who roll around in Prototype Assault Dropsuits trolling around with Complex Damage Modifiers and Duvolle Assault Rifles, obviously. Of course it isn't fair, but then again, fighting someone who is actually good at a game is unfair if you know nothing about the game. Playing on Hardcore mode when you've never played before is unfair. Doing parkour in real life when you are eighty pounds overweight is unfair. If you don't like vehicles, you can always skill up Anti-Vehicle. Tankers love their tanks, and if you can extract many tears from blowing them up. Missing the point as most people. Ambush is deathmatch and there are no need for tanks there. Duvolles? Proto suits? Nothing i cant take care with a shotgun. 3 Tanks spawn killing people ? Its not unfair. Its stupid.
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 237	Posted - 2013.04.14 07:56:00 - [5] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: i dont think its fair to spawn 5 times in a row surrounded by tanks and enemy soldiers. KING CHECKMATE wrote: Its not unfair. Its stupid. You know, people would take you more seriously if you didn't contradict yourself. Anyway, I'm not missing the point. You don't like vehicles in Ambush. But why? What makes Deathmatch-style gameplay so special that it shouldn't have vehicles? It is a valid playstyle.
KING CHECKMATE Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation 20	Posted - 2013.04.14 07:59:00 - [6] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: i dont think its fair to spawn 5 times in a row surrounded by tanks and enemy soldiers. KING CHECKMATE wrote: Its not unfair. Its stupid. You know, people would take you more seriously if you didn't contradict yourself. Anyway, I'm not missing the point. You don't like vehicles in Ambush. But why? What makes Deathmatch-style gameplay so special that it shouldn't have vehicles? It is a valid playstyle. '' What makes Deathmatch-style gameplay so special that it shouldn't have vehicles?'' : That its supposed to be a matter of skill not who spawns a tank first. Last time i checked this was a FPS, not Twisted metal BTW i dont see where i contradicted myself. And since you havn't given me a good explanation why we need Tanks in ambush, the post stays. TY for your imput.
KING CHECKMATE Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation 20	Posted - 2013.04.14 08:08:00 - [7] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: i dont think its fair to spawn 5 times in a row surrounded by tanks and enemy soldiers. KING CHECKMATE wrote: Its not unfair. Its stupid. You know, people would take you more seriously if you didn't contradict yourself. Sorry , i already corrected it. English is not my native language and grammar errors are common while i type.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 142	Posted - 2013.04.14 08:24:00 - [8] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Duvolles? Proto suits? Nothing i cant take care with a shotgun. Plus if they are using those things they've probably earned it.3 Tanks spawn killing people ? so, as long as you can kill it with a shotgun it's okay, but if it can kill you, it's stupid and overpowered, and they didn't spend the few million SP it takes to be useful with them, and the million isk it takes to field a decent tank? got it. tankers should not be allowed to use the things they skilled into in a fight to the death. wait no, that's ******ed. skill into AV if you don't like tanks stomping you, its not that hard/expensive.
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 237	Posted - 2013.04.14 08:35:00 - [9] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: That its supposed to be a matter of skill not who spawns a tank first. Wait, what? At first I was just in disagreement with you, but now you are spouting nonsense. You think it is easy using a HAV? It isn't. And since you seem to dead set on removing HAVs in Ambush, I reckon you haven't tried HAVs. Try one, see what I'm talking about. HAVs are not this automated invincible killing machine.
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1225	Posted - 2013.04.14 08:41:00 - [10] - Quote not going to happend cause CCP is going to splitt vehicle skills and infantry skills so that you basically are only allowed to spec into 1 thing. And im going full on vehicles next build. So you would basically ban a whole playerbase from ambush. How most people would say: HTFU

G Torq ALTA B2O 131	Posted - 2013.04.14 08:42:00 - [11] - Quote If the battle is fought somewhere where HAVs arent feasible, then I agree to no HAVs - if you don't want people to have HAVs in the current ambushes, remove the HAVs. Easy trick is to have a forge-gun ready immediately and shoot down the RDVs.
KING CHECKMATE Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation 20	Posted - 2013.04.14 08:47:00 - [12] - Quote I never said that HAV's dont need skill. I know that some people invest heavily in skills and ISK for their tanks. Still , Ambush does not need tanks.Please dont put words in my mouth. In any case there should be a SECOND ambush where Tankers and AV specialists can play. But leave the people actually interested in playing infantry a chance. And just as a note. I use laser rifles, shotguns, AR's, Sniper rifles , forge guns, SMGS.... I just use whats better for every situation so NO, im not saying that if i can kill it with a shot gun its ok.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 817	Posted - 2013.04.14 08:57:00 - [13] - Quote Cloud got here before me so pretty much what he said. There is no need to separate an Infantry Ambush from a Vehicle Ambush, the idea is ridiculous. Get it into your head this game isn't about being fair, it's about you wiping the enemy off the face of the earth, play hard or go home. With the update making Infantry and Vehicle skills completely separate, it's about to become a lot harder for a vehicle player and yet you wish to punish them more because you cannot kill them? HTFU. Also, how about trying to actually spec into AV, Prototype AV weapons dominate Vehicles (Seems to be Militia AV > Militia Vehicles, Adv AV > Adv Vehicles and Proto AV > Prototanks) if you can actually use them properly, I'm hitting Armor tanks for around 3500 HP, 3 shotting them, Not much harder with a Forge against a Tank.
KING CHECKMATE Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation 20	Posted - 2013.04.14 08:59:00 - [14] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: That its supposed to be a matter of skill not who spawns a tank first. Wait, what? At first I was just in disagreement with you, but now you are spouting nonsense. You think it is easy using a HAV? It isn't. And since you seem to dead set on removing HAVs in Ambush, I reckon you haven't tried HAVs. Try one, see what I'm talking about. HAVs are not this automated invincible killing machine. Again. Im not saying HAV's are easy to use (although they are not that hard given the proper map). I stand by my post, that there is no need for them in ambush. Now since im not just looking how to bash someone here and instead im looking for solutions these 2 might work. -Remove completely open maps (well the one that does not posses a single spot to taking cover that a tank cant reach). I know there is only 1 of these, but the fact you have to play it 50%+ of the time counts as if half of the maps were like this. -Create an AMBUSH mode without vehicles. ANd its not that i CANT kill them.Its the fact that getting spawned killed several times in a row without even able to move 0.5mts should never happen.And , as the game is right now..... It happens.
Martin0 Brancaleone Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 222	Posted - 2013.04.14 09:01:00 - [15] - Quote I don't understand why all the people whining about tanks don't skill into av. 2 people with advanced forgeguns or swarm launchers can take out a madrugar or a gunlogi with ease. And don't tell me it's because it takes a lot of SP, the advanced forgegun is only 174k sp.
KING CHECKMATE Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation 20	Posted - 2013.04.14 09:04:00 - [16] - Quote Martin0 Brancaleone wrote: I don't understand why all the people whining about tanks don't skill into av. 2 people with advanced forgeguns or swarm launchers can take out a madrugar or a gunlogi with ease. And don't tell me it's because it takes a lot of SP, the advanced forgegun is only 174k sp. I agree with you. But what if you are alone? Or what if there are 2 or more tanks? or even better, what if the tank is just spawn killing you?


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