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Harpyja
DUST University Ivy League
13
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Posted - 2013.04.12 20:10:00 -
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It's been a very long while now but ever since the last build, my Gunnlogi melts like butter underneath orbitals. Even with 60% resists and 6700 shield, I always hit less than 500 shields during every orbital. If I've had any damage before the orbital, I'm good as dead. Before this build, I'd lose no more than 2000 shields.
Back then I didn't need to worry about having a lot of shield, so I had 5000 shield plus shield booster so I can get back into action. Now I need to have 6700 shields and no booster. Now with every orbital I have to retreat and hide at my main spawn point for minutes. Precious time that I could be helping out the team instead.
Bottom line: shield HAVs need a buff. |
Bones McGavins
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
64
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Posted - 2013.04.12 20:24:00 -
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Wait. Orbitals slightly annoy you and make you be out of action for like a minute without too much danger because of silly redline mechanics meaning AV cant take advantage of your damaged state...
and you need a buff?
OOOOOOK. |
M3DIC 2U
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
47
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Posted - 2013.04.12 20:28:00 -
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Weren't shield stacking/hardener penalties messed up for a while? Maybe they fixed that. And sorry if an orbital can't take out or severly weaken a tank, then something is wrong with that scenario. |
Icy TIG3R
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
78
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Posted - 2013.04.12 20:28:00 -
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Working as intended. Good bye. |
N1ck Comeau
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
222
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Posted - 2013.04.12 20:28:00 -
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It's a massive airstrike. It should do a lot of damage. perhaps you need to spec into a better tank, i don't know i'm not a tanker. But i do know that tanks are fine the way they are Av could use a slight nerf but other then that everything is pretty great vehicle wise. (except the dropship) |
Harpyja
DUST University Ivy League
13
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Posted - 2013.04.12 20:29:00 -
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Bones McGavins wrote:Wait. Orbitals slightly annoy you and make you be out of action for like a minute without too much danger because of silly redline mechanics meaning AV cant take advantage of your damaged state...
and you need a buff?
OOOOOOK.
Lol say that again when I'm on your team and I'm hiding at base for four and a half minutes before I can do anything useful again.
My point here is that armor HAVs will eat orbitals for breakfast in addition to taking infantry AV damage. Orbitals are a lot more damaging to shield HAVs than armor HAVs, in addition to the fact that AV is more damaging to shields than armor. |
Harpyja
DUST University Ivy League
13
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Posted - 2013.04.12 20:31:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:It's a massive airstrike. It should do a lot of damage. perhaps you need to spec into a better tank, i don't know i'm not a tanker. But i do know that tanks are fine the way they are Av could use a slight nerf but other then that everything is pretty great vehicle wise. (except the dropship)
Again, my point here is that armor will eat AV for breakfast while shield will have to run away screaming like a little girl, yelling for her blueberries to kill the forge gunner that's too far underneath the firing angle of the main turret. |
James TrendalI
BetaMax. CRONOS.
11
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Posted - 2013.04.12 20:45:00 -
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Simple fire 1 set of swarms drop ob on the direction tank starts to run fire 2nd swarm as your squad drops the OB..... Tank is now dead.
But i would like to see Tanks,Dropships get a buff Dropships more then anything |
Bones McGavins
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
65
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Posted - 2013.04.12 21:03:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Bones McGavins wrote:Wait. Orbitals slightly annoy you and make you be out of action for like a minute without too much danger because of silly redline mechanics meaning AV cant take advantage of your damaged state...
and you need a buff?
OOOOOOK. Lol say that again when I'm on your team and I'm hiding at base for four and a half minutes before I can do anything useful again. My point here is that armor HAVs will eat orbitals for breakfast in addition to taking infantry AV damage. Orbitals are a lot more damaging to shield HAVs than armor HAVs, in addition to the fact that AV is more damaging to shields than armor.
If my team has any sort of HAV superiority on the ground, first off, chances are the enemy isnt getting an orbital. Secondly, even if they do, you just saved my butt being the target instead of me. Third, you being out of commission for 4 minutes is ok, youve probably provided a massive distraction for the rest of the match to let me just shoot a lot of faces uncontested.
This game feels like easy mode when any sort of HAV is on my team. |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
936
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Posted - 2013.04.12 22:04:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:It's been a very long while now but ever since the last build, my Gunnlogi melts like butter underneath orbitals. Even with 60% resists and 6700 shield, I always hit less than 500 shields during every orbital. If I've had any damage before the orbital, I'm good as dead. Before this build, I'd lose no more than 2000 shields.
Back then I didn't need to worry about having a lot of shield, so I had 5000 shield plus shield booster so I can get back into action. Now I need to have 6700 shields and no booster. Now with every orbital I have to retreat and hide at my main spawn point for minutes. Precious time that I could be helping out the team instead.
Bottom line: shield HAVs need a buff.
The purpose of an OB is to reward a team by giving them a way to effectively counter the enemy tactics. The fact that it does not out and out destroy is is enough to say that you have a good vehicle set up; many tanks die, and this is the way it should be. HAV is not desgined to be a win button. |
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Harpyja
DUST University Ivy League
13
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Posted - 2013.04.13 00:30:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Harpyja wrote:It's been a very long while now but ever since the last build, my Gunnlogi melts like butter underneath orbitals. Even with 60% resists and 6700 shield, I always hit less than 500 shields during every orbital. If I've had any damage before the orbital, I'm good as dead. Before this build, I'd lose no more than 2000 shields.
Back then I didn't need to worry about having a lot of shield, so I had 5000 shield plus shield booster so I can get back into action. Now I need to have 6700 shields and no booster. Now with every orbital I have to retreat and hide at my main spawn point for minutes. Precious time that I could be helping out the team instead.
Bottom line: shield HAVs need a buff. The purpose of an OB is to reward a team by giving them a way to effectively counter the enemy tactics. The fact that it does not out and out destroy is is enough to say that you have a good vehicle set up; many tanks die, and this is the way it should be. HAV is not desgined to be a win button.
Yeah but the simple thing is that I used to be able to eat orbitals for breakfast and now I have to run while holding my pants up. That's my main question: have orbitals changed? |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
938
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Posted - 2013.04.13 00:51:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Harpyja wrote:It's been a very long while now but ever since the last build, my Gunnlogi melts like butter underneath orbitals. Even with 60% resists and 6700 shield, I always hit less than 500 shields during every orbital. If I've had any damage before the orbital, I'm good as dead. Before this build, I'd lose no more than 2000 shields.
Back then I didn't need to worry about having a lot of shield, so I had 5000 shield plus shield booster so I can get back into action. Now I need to have 6700 shields and no booster. Now with every orbital I have to retreat and hide at my main spawn point for minutes. Precious time that I could be helping out the team instead.
Bottom line: shield HAVs need a buff. The purpose of an OB is to reward a team by giving them a way to effectively counter the enemy tactics. The fact that it does not out and out destroy is is enough to say that you have a good vehicle set up; many tanks die, and this is the way it should be. HAV is not desgined to be a win button. Yeah but the simple thing is that I used to be able to eat orbitals for breakfast and now I have to run while holding my pants up. That's my main question: have orbitals changed?
1. HAV's were instant win buttons and went through a rebalancing 2. If you were in a corp battle, it is possible/likely that you experienced an OB from an Eve pilot, and not from the warbarge. |
Andrew Sheaffer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
26
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Posted - 2013.04.13 03:18:00 -
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who knows ccp changes all kind of things during down times and never say a thing . but still it is a blast from a ship in space . no tank should still be a life if any thing OB should be stronger |
DaleGribbles
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:50:00 -
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Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or these other F2P games coming this year.........
Planetside 2 (19 GOTY Awards)
Coming to PS4 this year...
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