No thank you not a good request

It doesn't fill a missing roll. There would not be a big enough distinction between the HMG/AR. It has no roll to fill.

Not sure why people hate the idea so much.

The ARs we have now are alot more like LMGs than actually assault rifles, not to mention there is not enough of a gap between the two to justify a in between weapon. While I do want more variety i would rather it be interesting variety than copy and paste stats with different animation and looks. I would appreciate more weapons along the lines of mass drivers, Laser rifles, and Scrambler rifles these are interesting and fun weapons, where as a LMG would just be a different kind of AR.

Dont get me wrong, I dont hate the idea. I just dont think there is room for it.

That being said, if they change up the AR because a mass of people say its "OP". And they change the HMG then there would be room. But just saying a slower weapon, that can be used by non heaves, with less ammo, thats basically the AR.

There is not enough of a difference between HMG and ARs to justify making a whole new weapon just to fill a role that doesnt need filling.

cloaking will allow players to dedicate them selfs to scouting and ninja killing while SMG allow players to protect themselves from multiple targets or a ambush when their main weapon is poorly suited for it.

I could see a LMG being a minimtar version of a AR, then we would have a minni SMG LMG and HMG. but i still dont see it filling a necessary role.

When i listed those weapons early I wasnt asking for more laser weapons weapons but more EVE/alien weapons from the normally line up we deal with in Cod or BF. I want to feel like Im using a weapon with 1000s of years of weapons developlment put into it rather than another spray weapon.

I still dont think we need another spray weapon especially considering how well AR already do.

When did CoD get laser rifles, Forge guns, and Swarm launchers, you know all the interesting stuff thats apart of Dust and makes it more interesting than those two games.

Look I just dont see why we would need a LMGs when you can use a AR. Maybe i would be for this if ARs didn't have twice the magazine sizes of CoD guns or if ARs didn't have as much DPS as they do now. but what we call ARs in dust might as well be LMGs for all intended purposes. Dont forget the AR is already over powered so a LMG would be even more so.

you say this will add more variety but all it will do is either had an entirely overpowered weapons which doesn't bring any real depth to dust.

But im done, I dont care enough either way i just dont think it would be worth the development time.

Scan profile and camouflage are two different things. Scan profile effects radar, camouflage effects what you can actually see.

If you want to look for reasons why the LMG is unnecessary, you need to look at the unique features of the ARs that separate them from the same class of weapons in other games:

AR in Battlefield 3:
- Recoil: Tip of gun raises as trigger is held.
- Bullet Spread: Bullet spread increases as trigger is held
- Magazine Count: Around 30

AR in Dust 514:
- Recoil: Tip of gun stays fixed as trigger is held.
- Bullet Spread: No noticeable increase in bullet spread as trigger is held
- Magazine Count: Around 60

Because of the ammo count, lack of recoil, and bullet spread, ARs in Dust 514 are essentially equivalent to mounted LMGs in Battlefield 3. This is the biggest reason why there is no role for an LMG to fill.

Dust 514 ARs =/= other game ARs

A weapon doesn't need a unique role.

It needs a unique role for it's race.

The AR is Gallente, Caldar will have Guass rifle, and Amarr Scrambler rifle in this role.

This role for Minmatar could be filled by LMG. This role would place it between SMG and HMG about even with AR.

In EvE, autocannons(lmg tech) have 2/3 the range of blasters(ar tech)before damage drops off, but a longer max range and less dps and larger magazine.

Dust AR is aprox 36m to damage dropoff and 78m max
EvE small neutron is 1.5km and 4km with falloff (eve uses complex falloff calc, so this is over simplified)
EvE 200mm autocannon is 1km and 5.8km
This would put lmg roughly at 24m for full damage and 114m for max.

100 round belt feed, long reload time like hmg, bullet drop(it uses bullets unlike ar) with lowered rate of fire to help system process. higher recoil and dispersion then ar. Over heat after 20-30 rounds, fewer barrels make it overheat with fewer shots then an hmg.

This would make it effective at close quarters for killing and at mid to long for suppression, but hard to get enough hits for a kill at that range.

I would suggest damage and rate of fire of about 250 rpm and damage about 90. This makes it just under AR dps, but fire slow enough to have bullet drop with large team sizes. Borderlands 2 LMG fire at this rate, and it seems plenty high visually with bright tracers.

This gives weapon a unique feel and some pros/cons with ar while filling same role. It then becomes a preference what weapon a player wants in that role. It would also help with to many ar complaint without nerfing ar that is working as intended.

Yeah thats what this game is missing. More people just spamming the R1 button.....

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WAIT! actually its a great idea yeah!

16.5 - 20.5 dmg
150 magazine
900 Rof (aprox)
Regular Accuracy
Mid Range
4 secs reload
NO HEATUP!

This way i wont have to deal with so many Gek's and duvolles XD

what do you mean by recoil , are u referring to a plasma lmg or projectile lmg like the smg