Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2013.04.10 03:32:00 -
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Don't use what you can't afford to lose.
New players - NPC Corp or not - can't afford to lose ANYTHING.
So.... don't play? Just because you joined a friend's Corp when you started? Or because you're part of a gaming clan that's moving into the game and want to actually show your colours? Good plan...
There are plenty of reasons - it fits the universe, BPOs become pay-to-win, people wanting to save their ISK will stick to player Corps just to gain profit instead of staying there to learn, and even a good player might have a few bad runs and end up in the red. Having a few cheap slightly-modded starter fits would allow a good player that little bit of a chance to start turning a profit again. |
Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2013.04.10 07:28:00 -
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Thrillhouse Van Houten wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Just because you joined a friend's Corp when you started? Or because you're part of a gaming clan that's moving into the game and want to actually show your colours? Good plan... I'd love to see the experienced player that gets their ISK balance so low that they can't fit 4 or 5 militia fits.
So what you're saying is... you didn't actually read what I wrote?
Well played. Maybe try... ummm... actually reading before replying next time?
Thrillhouse Van Houten wrote:Come on...4k ISK a fit. MAYBE 20k ISK in losses in one match and then...boom, a 180k ISK increase. After one match.
So you're saying you've never seen a total noob run worse than 0/5? Cool story. And 180,000 ISK is an overestimation for a bad (0 kills, 0WP) game - it's easy to get less than 180k in a match if you're bad (or not trying... or really, REALLY unlucky with Ambush spawns).
Quote:And HOW, do you propose, the notion of FREE STARTER GEAR FOR LIFE fits with the Eve Universe? At all? In ANY way? I've played Eve for two and a half years and I have never received any free ships outside of my original Ibis. How does free fits for guys with 6million SP fit the Eve universe? Its a handout...which is exactly contrary to the creedo of Risk vs. Reward that CCP eschews.
As has already been mentioned in this thread, before I showed up, and which you seem to have conveniently ignored... ANOTHER FREE SHIP when you arrive in your pod at a station where you don't already have a ship waiting. Basic cheap junk gear NEEDS to be always available. The starter fits are - quite literally - the worst gear in the game. With the right skills, they can sort of stand on their own - but not reliably.
Quote:The MLT BPO argument is the first thing anyone has mentioned that actually might stand on its own. I still don't agree. You could say that all AUR gear is p2w then. If you paid for your BPO...then you paid for it. End of discussion. That is how it works. If you paid for your "Burnstalk" LR or your "Neo Type II" suits or any of the other AUR gear, you are flirting with p2w.
No.
As long as you can get the basic junk gear for free, Corp or not, having a half-step above it - or actually Militia-level gear - for free isn't P2W, it's par-for-the-course F2P. Having infinite-use gear when other players CAN'T hold onto the same gear without sticking to NPC Corps is blatantly P2W. |