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first sgt cotman RISE OF THE EMPIRE 0	Posted - 2013.04.09 23:48:00 - [1] - Quote Since uprising is coming out does it make sense to make every start over fresh (as in sp) We all know what going to happen these corporation who have all the good merc are going to have everything in a week or two. Yea I know this is going to suck for those like me who have over 6million sp point but its only fair
achiever pigs with fricken lazer beams 25	Posted - 2013.04.09 23:51:00 - [2] - Quote NO!
Green Living Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 148	Posted - 2013.04.09 23:52:00 - [3] - Quote No. Nothing to see here folks, move on.
Kane Fyea BetaMax. CRONOS. 137	Posted - 2013.04.09 23:53:00 - [4] - Quote No. That is all.
Draemus Acidborne Inf4m0us 0	Posted - 2013.04.09 23:54:00 - [5] - Quote I'll be honest with you............I don't care at all about being fair. Starting over from scratch sounds to me monumentally self defeating....unenjoyable, and most importantly ...uh, not fun? I earned my points, those points represent a period of my life spent. That time spent is the equivalent of money to me. I spent the time, I earned the SP (active and passive), I did the work to grind out 1000sp per match beyond cap...that's my blood sweat and tears, no...there is no fair when you're talking about my money and/or time. I find it to be a VERY nice thing that they are even let me respec given the skill changes, that's VERY kind of CCP...but no, you do not take away my months of play and wipe it clean after the devs just got done saying there will be no more SP wipes.
Shadowswipe WarRavens 59	Posted - 2013.04.09 23:55:00 - [6] - Quote If the hardcore players are going to have everything in two weeks anyways, why punish everyone else?
Buster Friently Rosen Association 257	Posted - 2013.04.09 23:55:00 - [7] - Quote First off, who said dust should be fair? And who decides what's fair? Lastly, this has already been addressed by ccp. Please learn to search. The short answer is that there will be no more wipes. Tl;Dr no.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2439	Posted - 2013.04.09 23:56:00 - [8] - Quote This is pointless because we're having a full SP respec, and that's the way it should be.
Altina McAlterson Not Guilty 461	Posted - 2013.04.09 23:56:00 - [9] - Quote Plus we already had the final reset, which means no more. Having another reset without that "catastrophic" something CCP mentioned would cost them so many players I think. I mean seriously, some of us have started over what, like 5 times or something? Whatever it is I've started over 4 times and I really, really don't want to do it again.
Sextus Hardcock Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 142	Posted - 2013.04.09 23:58:00 - [10] - Quote Fair? You must be new here.

Ripcord19981 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 22	Posted - 2013.04.09 23:58:00 - [11] - Quote no, because most veterans who worked hard may leave and people like me dont have tie to re earn my sp. I may only have 4mil, but it took me months because of school, sports, etc.
Casius Hakoke Fenrir's Wolves 62	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:01:00 - [12] - Quote I'm sorry but fair is an illusion and is subjective to each persons point of view. Plus, as has been already stated, this is New Eden, there is no such thing as fair here.
first sgt cotman RISE OF THE EMPIRE 0	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:02:00 - [13] - Quote I'm trying to look at a bigger picture then because its not going to be fair where this planetary conquest start and Lotis and Delta force or whoever own 96% of all the district. Yea you earn your sp from playing ..we all did. 6 million took me almost 5 months. I'm not say for them to keep the aur yea they can give that back to us.but you saying no you don't care about being fair you thinking small you need to thing about the bigger picture
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 1096	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:03:00 - [14] - Quote achiever wrote: NO! I just saw your corp name, its awesome
Thog A Kuma Planetary Response Organisation 54	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:03:00 - [15] - Quote fair? did I miss a TOS entry about "fair" Lets be fair and tax all the good players 54% of their SP and ISK earned and robin hood it onto the scrubs.. sillyness
first sgt cotman RISE OF THE EMPIRE 0	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:04:00 - [16] - Quote Sextus Hardcock wrote: Fair? You must be new here. New I had this game since the close beta
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 1096	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:12:00 - [17] - Quote first sgt cotman wrote: I'm trying to look at a bigger picture then because its not going to be fair where this planetary conquest start and Lotis and Delta force or whoever own 96% of all the district. Yea you earn your sp from playing ..we all did. 6 million took me almost 5 months. I'm not say for them to keep the aur yea they can give that back to us.but you saying no you don't care about being fair you thinking small you need to thing about the bigger picture We're good but not that good Its only been 3 months(if that) since the last reset. also as others have said, new eden isn't fair, the greatest success in PC will go to those who prepare well and don't take more than they can afford to hold.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 793	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:15:00 - [18] - Quote ...no.
Major Cotman RISE OF THE EMPIRE 0	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:16:00 - [19] - Quote gbghg wrote: first sgt cotman wrote: I'm trying to look at a bigger picture then because its not going to be fair where this planetary conquest start and Lotis and Delta force or whoever own 96% of all the district. Yea you earn your sp from playing ..we all did. 6 million took me almost 5 months. I'm not say for them to keep the aur yea they can give that back to us.but you saying no you don't care about being fair you thinking small you need to thing about the bigger picture We're good but not that good Its only been 3 months(if that) since the last reset. also as others have said, new eden isn't fair, the greatest success in PC will go to those who prepare well and don't take more than they can afford to hold. I think y'all are great but when corporation have those nuke tank that cant be killed how is that fair.....ok people need to work as a team fine I understand. But reason like this people are slowly moving away from the game.then what happens when theres only like 3000 people playing this.then we just have another mag
Casius Hakoke Fenrir's Wolves 62	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:18:00 - [20] - Quote Major Cotman wrote: gbghg wrote: first sgt cotman wrote: I'm trying to look at a bigger picture then because its not going to be fair where this planetary conquest start and Lotis and Delta force or whoever own 96% of all the district. Yea you earn your sp from playing ..we all did. 6 million took me almost 5 months. I'm not say for them to keep the aur yea they can give that back to us.but you saying no you don't care about being fair you thinking small you need to thing about the bigger picture We're good but not that good Its only been 3 months(if that) since the last reset. also as others have said, new eden isn't fair, the greatest success in PC will go to those who prepare well and don't take more than they can afford to hold. I think y'all are great but when corporation have those nuke tank that cant be killed how is that fair.....ok people need to work as a team fine I understand. But reason like this people are slowly moving away from the game.then what happens when theres only like 3000 people playing this.then we just have another mag Want to buy nuke tanks that nobody can destroy. Because I've never seen anything like that in game yet.

Crash Monster Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:19:00 - [21] - Quote OP, how about giving your thread a useful title from now on?
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1199	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:21:00 - [22] - Quote 32
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 1096	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:21:00 - [23] - Quote Major Cotman wrote: gbghg wrote: first sgt cotman wrote: I'm trying to look at a bigger picture then because its not going to be fair where this planetary conquest start and Lotis and Delta force or whoever own 96% of all the district. Yea you earn your sp from playing ..we all did. 6 million took me almost 5 months. I'm not say for them to keep the aur yea they can give that back to us.but you saying no you don't care about being fair you thinking small you need to thing about the bigger picture We're good but not that good Its only been 3 months(if that) since the last reset. also as others have said, new eden isn't fair, the greatest success in PC will go to those who prepare well and don't take more than they can afford to hold. I think y'all are great but when corporation have those nuke tank that cant be killed how is that fair.....ok people need to work as a team fine I understand. But reason like this people are slowly moving away from the game.then what happens when theres only like 3000 people playing this.then we just have another mag every vehicle can be destroyed, it's just a good team will work to take out enemy AV before it can become a threat, it sucks when it happens to you, but the only reason it happens is because you let the other team get the advantage.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 793	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:21:00 - [24] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: OP, how about giving your thread a useful title from now on? Like "ignore"?
first sgt cotman RISE OF THE EMPIRE 1	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:21:00 - [25] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: OP, how about giving your thread a useful title from now on? How about it is a useful title when you want a question answer thats what you put ....thank you... now you can find your way out of it
Crash Monster Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:25:00 - [26] - Quote first sgt cotman wrote: How about it is a useful title when you want a question answer thats what you put ....thank you... now you can find your way out of it Oh, sure, here I was being nice about it. If you are so entitled and conceited to think the entire forum needs to respond to your plea "answer this" then you've got issues. Now, you certainly don't have to pick useful titles... but we certainly don't have to humor your self-importance. Next time, go look for the 500 other threads on the topic of resets and refunds and don't waste our time with your laziness.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2442	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:32:00 - [27] - Quote Basically all it would do is waste time. Good players would get ahead fairly quickly, while bad players like the OP would come crawling back to the forums, complaining for another reset
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 793	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:35:00 - [28] - Quote As for why CCP would decide to let us keep our SP in the fist place.. Open Beta is a stress test, however the game has had this exact content for about 5-6 months now, the only CCP was ever going to get decent numbers was if they gave players an incentive to stick around. Getting to keep our SP is that incentive, and if the AfKers are any sign of things, it worked... sort of. Changing their minds now would be like saying thank you for wasting your time". I wouldn't mind if they just let us keep 1/2 of our SP, or 1/4 even, but setting us back to 0 now would be a huge slap in the face.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 793	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:38:00 - [29] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: don't waste our time But don't you see? "Waste our time" is the entire purpose of this thread, he's just using "new players" to disguise his diabolical intentions.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation 1945	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:43:00 - [30] - Quote 1. No 2. No 3. No 4. No 5. No 6. No 7. No 8. No 9. NO 10. No 11. No 12. No explanation needed.

first sgt cotman RISE OF THE EMPIRE 1	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:44:00 - [31] - Quote Well to say I probably have more sp then 3/4 of the people who posted on the forum...two if you really want to talk about a title you lame and you need to go find a different person or player to mess with because your really being a kid when you can look over the post and go to another one...
Crash Monster Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 27	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:47:00 - [32] - Quote first sgt cotman wrote: Well to say I probably have more sp then 3/4 of the people who posted on the forum...two if you really want to talk about a title you lame and you need to go find a different person or player to mess with because your really being a kid when you can look over the post and go to another one... And you don't take your own advice because?
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 793	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:49:00 - [33] - Quote first sgt cotman wrote: Well to say I probably have more sp then 3/4 of the people who posted on the forum...two if you really want to talk about a title you lame and you need to go find a different person or player to mess with because your really being a kid when you can look over the post and go to another one... Dafuq did you just say? ENGLISH MOTHERKITTEN DO YOU SPEAK IT???
first sgt cotman RISE OF THE EMPIRE 1	Posted - 2013.04.10 00:52:00 - [34] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: first sgt cotman wrote: Well to say I probably have more sp then 3/4 of the people who posted on the forum...two if you really want to talk about a title you lame and you need to go find a different person or player to mess with because your really being a kid when you can look over the post and go to another one... Dafuq did you just say? ENGLISH MOTHERKITTEN DO YOU SPEAK IT??? Guess you don't know English the proper way
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 793	Posted - 2013.04.10 01:04:00 - [35] - Quote first sgt cotman wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: first sgt cotman wrote: Well to say I probably have more sp then 3/4 of the people who posted on the forum...two if you really want to talk about a title you lame and you need to go find a different person or player to mess with because your really being a kid when you can look over the post and go to another one... Dafuq did you just say? ENGLISH MOTHERKITTEN DO YOU SPEAK IT??? Guess you don't know English the proper way I really don't But I believe it involves the use of these "things", I forgot what they were called though... what were they called... Oh right, they're called punctuation marks, learn to use them.
Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 306	Posted - 2013.04.10 01:22:00 - [36] - Quote Is this going to happen on every major update?
Sextus Hardcock Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 142	Posted - 2013.04.10 01:22:00 - [37] - Quote first sgt cotman wrote: Sextus Hardcock wrote: Fair? You must be new here. New I had this game since the close beta And you haven't realized that in another 3 months the same 'problem' will occour again. So essentially you must be asking for a quarterly SP wipe to keep things 'fair' ... Biomass yourself please.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 794	Posted - 2013.04.10 01:24:00 - [38] - Quote Sextus Hardcock wrote: first sgt cotman wrote: Sextus Hardcock wrote: Fair? You must be new here. New I had this game since the close beta And you haven't realized that in another 3 months the same 'problem' will occour again. So essentially you must be asking for a quarterly SP wipe to keep things 'fair' ... Biomass yourself please. Quarterly? Kitten please, SP reset every week!
first sgt cotman RISE OF THE EMPIRE 1	Posted - 2013.04.10 01:29:00 - [39] - Quote I'm saying just for this update so everyone can be on the same page. Think about it what if you wasn't in top 25 corporation then you wouldn't have a chance to be apart of planetary conquest that long.everything is going to go to the rank 2-10 corporation.
Sextus Hardcock Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 142	Posted - 2013.04.10 01:31:00 - [40] - Quote If you think a few million SP is going to turn the tides.... you'd best just Biomass yourself now.

Michael Arck sephiroth clones 26	Posted - 2013.04.10 01:33:00 - [41] - Quote Don't reset points. Hate to give the angry old vets another topic to be disgruntled about.
Sextus Hardcock Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 142	Posted - 2013.04.10 01:34:00 - [42] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Sextus Hardcock wrote: first sgt cotman wrote: Sextus Hardcock wrote: Fair? You must be new here. New I had this game since the close beta And you haven't realized that in another 3 months the same 'problem' will occour again. So essentially you must be asking for a quarterly SP wipe to keep things 'fair' ... Biomass yourself please. Quarterly? Kitten please, SP reset every week! SP reset Erryday! DT... 0 SP Militia AR erryday baby
Calgoth Reborn United Front LLC 230	Posted - 2013.04.10 01:57:00 - [43] - Quote first sgt cotman wrote: I'm trying to look at a bigger picture then because its not going to be fair where this planetary conquest start and Lotis and Delta force or whoever own 96% of all the district. Yea you earn your sp from playing ..we all did. 6 million took me almost 5 months. I'm not say for them to keep the aur yea they can give that back to us.but you saying no you don't care about being fair you thinking small you need to thing about the bigger picture Well seeing as the Closed Beta reset happened in January and it's only been 3 months since then your logic is flawed to begin with. Only took me 3 months to get over 7.5mil so your doing it wrong and did like your own post with your alt just so you could have a like lol
first sgt cotman RISE OF THE EMPIRE 1	Posted - 2013.04.10 02:02:00 - [44] - Quote I really didn't try to I was still thinking I was under first sgt . I can get 500, 000 sp with in a week. Even when the sp reseted I still keep count to see where I would have been. I really don't care if the sp reset because I play dust a lot so it would be easy for me to make up all the sp...
Buster Friently Rosen Association 257	Posted - 2013.04.10 03:12:00 - [45] - Quote Major Cotman wrote: gbghg wrote: first sgt cotman wrote: ... fair ... fair ... We're good but not that good ... fair... ... fair..... You keep using that word...
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 74	Posted - 2013.04.10 06:44:00 - [46] - Quote first sgt cotman wrote: I'm trying to look at a bigger picture then because its not going to be fair where this planetary conquest start and Lotis and Delta force or whoever own 96% of all the district. Yea you earn your sp from playing ..we all did. 6 million took me almost 5 months. I'm not say for them to keep the aur yea they can give that back to us.but you saying no you don't care about being fair you thinking small you need to thing about the bigger picture The cost and logistics of owning all the districts would be more than a DUST corp could do. Resetting everything would only make people mad and drive them away. War is not fair and shouldn't be. "Our enemies will be eaten by squirrels". Mom
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2456	Posted - 2013.04.10 06:46:00 - [47] - Quote first sgt cotman wrote: I can get 500, 000 sp with in a week. I wasn't aware that buying skill boosters was considered a skill now
Rei Shepard Spectre II 139	Posted - 2013.04.10 06:54:00 - [48] - Quote first sgt cotman wrote: Since uprising is coming out does it make sense to make every start over fresh (as in sp) We all know what going to happen these corporation who have all the good merc are going to have everything in a week or two. Yea I know this is going to suck for those like me who have over 6million sp point but its only fair So to make it "fair" the next big patch around, you going to want a reset each time? Sounds like someone is b*tthurt about not having these 6m sp he talks about having.
raineater The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2013.04.10 06:59:00 - [49] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: first sgt cotman wrote: Since uprising is coming out does it make sense to make every start over fresh (as in sp) We all know what going to happen these corporation who have all the good merc are going to have everything in a week or two. Yea I know this is going to suck for those like me who have over 6million sp point but its only fair So to make it "fair" the next big patch around, you going to want a reset each time? Sounds like someone is btthurt about not having these 6m sp he talks about having. Quote:* we all did. 6 million took me almost 5 months. Open beta has not been out for 3 months, try again "beeeep" you got to be kidding me you sir are so not thinking of bigger pic at all cause if they did that for every big thing they added to game they be no one left playing what so ever even if the game was the best ever made no one would stay yes you get some but not many and the bigger pic is like ten years alot can change in ten years let alone two days


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