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Big miku
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Posted - 2013.04.09 22:40:00 -
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Dust514 has a steep learning curve compared to modern shooters. Simply telling new players to "git gud scrub" is counter-intuitive to what we need, more players. As such, I'd like to suggest a gamemode in which only militia gear is allowable.
This game mode would have less payout ISK and SP wise but would help new players get acclimatized to the game without risk of getting utterly devastated by upper tier players running proto fits.
Your thoughts fellow forum goers and feather dusters? |
Vyzion Eyri
The Legion Academy
ROFL BROS
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Posted - 2013.04.09 22:46:00 -
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You know, I would simply play that mode to feel good about myself. I'll fly militia dropships and the enemies won't know how to deal with me and I'd just flatten the poor guys all day long.
Not to mention rocking a militia AR fit and using my superior SP levels to get the jump on the newbies. |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc
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Posted - 2013.04.09 22:46:00 -
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I think playing with the big boys makes you a better player!
Plus I think when PC and FW comes out the more advanced players will be busy with that leaving pubs relatively safe. |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.04.09 22:48:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:I think playing with the big boys makes you a better player!
Plus I think when PC and FW comes out the more advanced players will be busy with that leaving pubs relatively safe.
To the intelligent this is true - but we're in the console world now - dominated by emotional 15 y.o's who rage when there Rambo style fails. This sort of mode is almost a must. |
XiBangBang
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.04.09 22:50:00 -
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I was thinking this as well, but I don't think the less payout is necessary. Rather a max sp to participate. Ie only players with less than 2 or 2.5 mil sp could participate... |
buddha blezz
D3LTA FORC3
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.09 22:52:00 -
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good point ive been thinking myself this games needs some special game modes for new players , the militia mode is a good idea
my other ideas:
rookie mode - a game mode limited by total SP of the player , only people below the limit could join
no squad mode - only lone players (which new players usually are) would be allowed to join |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.04.09 23:03:00 -
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Then people would be even less inclined to use weapons and equipment that don't have militia variants. |
Smoky Fingers
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Posted - 2013.04.09 23:06:00 -
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Militia mode is sound.keep isk and sp payouts the same and instead implement some sort of ceiling. If a player reaches a certain lifetime sp, let's say 1.5 million, no further sp or isk (maybe a little isk) would be rewarded in that mode, forcing people to eventually merge in with the big boys. As for k/d stat, make it not count for this mode, or make it not count when you reach a certain number of kills. |
Big miku
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Posted - 2013.04.09 23:07:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Then people would be even less inclined to use weapons and equipment that don't have militia variants.
So what? Is bare bones to dominate game mode in Call of duty? Nope, people will naturally want better gear and will move at their own pace. |
Justin Tymes
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.09 23:20:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:I think playing with the big boys makes you a better player!
Plus I think when PC and FW comes out the more advanced players will be busy with that leaving pubs relatively safe.
This is a lie. You don't get better getting stomped on, you just learn to avoid them/hide at the edges of the map until the match is over. |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.04.09 23:29:00 -
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Sure.
Inb4 someone makes accusations of "splitting the player base" |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc
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Posted - 2013.04.09 23:34:00 -
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One world. One war. One playerbase. |
Shadowswipe
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Posted - 2013.04.09 23:40:00 -
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Don't baby the FPS crowd. They should be use to doing this learning curve in every other FPS out there. Eventually we will have PvE and that is where new players will learn the game. Before that, its wasted dev time on a system that won't work near as good as the PvE they already have planned.
P.S. This belongs in the feedback forums. |
Thog A Kuma
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2013.04.09 23:40:00 -
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I'm pretty sure the devs are designing a game that they hope will provide some revenue. an all militia gear room means nobody in there will ever spend any AUR. you might get this to fly if after a trial period it is inaccessible but I doubt you could keep it full enough consistently under that condition.
It may be a good idea on paper and your heart is in the right place but I pray they don't implement the idea.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2013.04.09 23:51:00 -
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Kudos to the two posters above me. They are correct. A militia only mode is a bad idea. Some kind of training would be good though. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.04.09 23:53:00 -
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Shadowswipe wrote:Eventually we will have PvE and that is where new players will learn the game. .
Oh sure, PVE helps you learn the controls, but beating Arcade Mode on "Very Hard" in Tekken hasn't made me any better against other players. The same was true for Dark Souls, Uncharted, or any other game with singleplayer and multiplayer ever. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
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Posted - 2013.04.10 00:01:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:I think playing with the big boys makes you a better player!
Plus I think when PC and FW comes out the more advanced players will be busy with that leaving pubs relatively safe. This is a lie. You don't get better getting stomped on, you just learn to avoid them/hide at the edges of the map until the match is over.
That's exactly right. It needs to be a natural progression that someone can keep pace with. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.04.10 00:12:00 -
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I had a brilliant idea! *Generic Shooter Mode*, militia gear only and skills have no effect, this way CCP can attract more CoD people :D |
Big miku
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Posted - 2013.04.10 01:24:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:I had a brilliant idea! *Generic Shooter Mode*, militia gear only and skills have no effect, this way CCP can attract more CoD people :D
Better idea, turn everyone into cute girls, We can be cute girls doing cute things with guns. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.04.10 01:26:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:I had a brilliant idea! *Generic Shooter Mode*, militia gear only and skills have no effect, this way CCP can attract more CoD people :D Better idea, turn everyone into cute girls, We can be cute girls doing cute things with guns.
I do like me some cute girls. |
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Veeshanti Velarune
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.10 01:38:00 -
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Having a "noob" mode would be a bad idea. It doesn't benefit anything. It doesn't matter what sort of skill level a person has, if the teams are unbalanced then you will get destroyed anyway. If you can't compete with the rest of the gaming community then you shouldn't be playing the game. That goes for any game ever made. If you're going to play something against other people, then you need to face the fact that there is always going to be someone better.
Now, a training mode I can definitely agree on. It would be nice to maybe have a small area where we can test out different equipment and stuff without having to jump into battle and try to learn as you're being shot. I haven't really played with the vehicles yet but I've been wanting to. Only downside is that it's a bit tough to figure out the controls and get used to things when you're expected to help out with the fight and not goof around in the corner....as bad as that sounds =P |
Seed Dren
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Posted - 2013.04.10 02:41:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Sure.
Inb4 someone makes accusations of "splitting the player base"
+1 and right on the money. |
Yani Nabari
One-Armed Bandits
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.04.10 02:51:00 -
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Noob mode? no thanks. A bit of a lengthy tutorial that is borderline mandatory though? One that just so happens to award a modest amount of SP for completion maybe?
Probably wouldn't be a bad idea in the future as more stuff gets added on. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.04.10 02:56:00 -
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I've never understood why people so strongly oppose modes that they themselves would have no interest in. What exactly is the problem with a militia only mode? Aside from noobs being able escape the grasp of the hungry protobears. |
Sloth9230
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Posted - 2013.04.25 06:39:00 -
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I think this would be a good reason to have a militia only mode: "testing". Seriously, Militia gear is thereso that new players can test equipment before they decide to invest in it, but a new player going up against people in Proto gear isn't exactly going to get accurate results of a weapon's capabilities other than "militia gear sucks", except shotguns, shotguns are beast yo!  |
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