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vmlinuz78
Les Baleines sous Graviers
Squale Operation Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.09 09:46:00 -
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Hi everyone, Hi CCP dev team,
I hope I don't do double post on it, because I didn't find it but in the case, don't hesitate to move my post.
Now that will have Planetary Conquest, and regarding the real 'danger' for small corp to engage their player into Planetary Conquest, due to the clone pack price and all arround small player team issue, I would to ask for something that should come with next release.
My corporation is today Eve and Dust represented, even if born on Dust side.
Our Mercenaries are so excited since Planetary Conquest hes been announced that we focused on how to handle it and we thought to be able to manage it.
At 20M isk clone pack it was hard challenger, for us due to small player team online at same time each day.
But since the last announce, we are know face to real issue : 80M isk... very expensive cost for us to start PC alone.
So we thought that Alliance could solve our problem.
But...Even if other Dust corp agree to join our Alliance, I'm face some of irritent issues.
Fist, How a full Dust corp can apply to our Alliance ? (they cannot actually do it from Dust, they need Eve CEO...)
So ok, I have a solution which is quite ok.
If they want to join us, they can give us 10 minutes of CEO role to apply our Alliance (from our dedicated player which will only do Alliance apply operation for them).
How ? These mercenaries corporation agreed with us to say ok: we'll accept your Eve player to become CEO of our corp to do the Alliance Apply. And to be safe we'll move our corp isk to actual CEO player to be sure you'll not take our isk, before giving CEO role to your player.
And doing this, trust established between both parts, we could have simple way to enroll Dust corp to play with us.
And because we want more player with us, we thought to offer the 1st month Alliance fees to this corp. Then they will stay with us and pay CONCORD, or they will have choice to leave.
We are very fair player team and cool team, no ? yes it the fact.
But again a question is coming ... How they will be able to pay CONCORD once the first month ending ?
They could pay but how ? no isk between Dust and Eve today, nor in the announce with next release, so ?? Should my dedicated Alliance player have to become again CEO, pay tax and then give back CEO role to the friend corp ?
Boring time, really...
An other thing that comes up with this.
Even if they join us in Alliance, and they are able to pay CONCORD and stay with us, if they don't have enough isk to have their own clone pack, we Would be able as a real fair play alliance to offer them cone pack, but we can't...
Once again, isk from/to Eve and Dust is not open...
So that mean, we have to do nothing, leave the game and choose another one ?? no I don't know and they don't know because they believe in CCP reactivity.
So please do something for next May, 6th.
or explain us your plan.
That would be really appreciate, that PC is not just in the hand of Top 50 corporations.
Thanks a lot.
Run and Fly safe.
Linuz Vip.
CEO Les Baleines sous Graviers |
vmlinuz78
Les Baleines sous Graviers
Squale Operation Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.09 11:00:00 -
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I agree with you and it's something that we started internaly, but
what's about smaller corp like 2/3 players who want join us and fight with us, if they cannot do that and want to keep their identity, they will have no chance to come in alliance, pay monthly 2M isk to CONCORD and the first clone pack is quite bit expensive for them.
We would help them, but we can't do nothing.
And for us, it's still big challenge to keep the district... see Cazaderon calculation in PC post, you will understand that there is something bad at this time.
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Linuz VIP
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vmlinuz78
Les Baleines sous Graviers
Squale Operation Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.09 12:18:00 -
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Mr Gloo Gloo wrote:Team with 2-3 members must NOT be able to be involve in PC, as you need to fill 16 players every single day at the same time for just 1 district.
Sure but as exemple, if we do 4 corps (in alliance) with 4 players per corp average playing at same time = 16 player on line to keep 1 disctrict.
In this way, the district should be owned by the Alliance, and the Alliance should own clone made there, then be able to redistribute them to corps of the Alliance who need them.
This could open real interaction between Dust corp and motivate them.
Mr Gloo Gloo wrote:
Add ISK transfer between EVE and DUST is a non sense as they have already some trillion of ISK, and it's hard to hit the billion in DUST. That will kill the game.
Not sure it will kill the game. It depend your position.
Mine is in Eve, as CEO of the corp (It's better place for me here, than loosing time in FPS where I'm definitively poor killer), and I want to be sure my Mercenaries will be able to play PC.
Opening isk will just push Dust only corp to work closely with Eve corp. This will start real interaction.
Not only for Eve player to do orbital stikes, because they have to wait until they receive request to fight, taking risk to be fight on Eve site by other Eve players, But also for Dust corps who could receive corp or alliance benefits.
When district will be owned by Merc., the corp Eve side will have bonus on POS production timer and POS fuel usage, so they have interest to be sure Dust Merc. have enought money to keep district.
Not opening isk transfert is for me not giving motivation for Eve nor for Dust to play both to achieve same objective.
But I agree that it could decrease motivation for top 50 corporations who are Dust mercenaries only.
So think Eve and Dust, both in same way, and tell me why in this way this will kill the game, because here, I don't see.
Mr Gloo Gloo wrote:PC will be open for small/medium corp/alliances when other regions will be available.
Probably, but here this mean to give to powerfull corps, of today again, more experience than smaller one, because they will learn in the same time others will wait and lose learning time on how it is better to play in PC.
Regards,
Linuz Vip |
vmlinuz78
Les Baleines sous Graviers
Squale Operation Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.09 17:25:00 -
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So the way it is today is that only top 50 and big corp will be able to run PC.
Perfect ?
And it's a fact that we have to agree ?
Now..
think about this :
How many people prefer to play in smaller corp to have real members interaction instead being a 'number' in a big corp ?
Do you think people who feel like a number in a very large corp enjoy them ? really ?
(it's like big company, people generaly prefer act as someone in smaler company than be part of the mass in large one)
So force people to be part of large corp to have the chance run in PC one day per month...
This can do the same : kill the game.
No ?
In Eve if smal corp want FW or Alliance with some others to run war, they can.
Why in Dust it should be different ? 4 corps of average 4 players online at same time could do the deal.
By the way, tax from/to EVE and Dust should be applied and isk transfert should have limit but be possible.
I agree that finding the right balance is quite touchy.
Eve corps have Dust wallet hidden today, so why ?
If there is no isk interaction, ever, why build kind of interaction between Eve and Dust.
And yes I agree that we hope on Eve to produce things for our Dust merc.
Linuz
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