DUST Search - buffing vehicles through teamwork. An idea that could really change vehicles.

Rei Shepard wrote:

Zekain Kade wrote:

So this idea literally just popped into my head, and I really want to know what you all think of it.

Right now, it only seems that turret skills the belong to the operator, and any of the passengers are the only set of skill that actually affect a vehicle. So how would you all react if CCP broadened that idea out to other vehicle related skills in the next build?

Shield skills, armor skills, turret skills, racial skills, and anything else relating to vehicles actually all stacked.

Right now someone with a proto forge, and some complex dam mods can solo a proto tank. But could that forger solo that tank if it had a 75% increase in both aromer, shields, turrets, and anything else that those three might have speced into? Probably not.

Now think of a drop ship. They aren't so paper thin when they have a full load of soldiers, now do they? 175% increase. Thats crazy!

It would make vehicle preservation a team effort. Having dedicated vehicle operators that have a soul purpose of making that one vehicle as strong as it could be.

Its not the tanks job to kill the AV fit Heavy, its his squad of infantry, ow wait video game logic tanks must solo everything....

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Zekain Kade BetaMax. CRONOS. 1195	Posted - 2013.04.09 05:49:00 - [1] - Quote So this idea literally just popped into my head, and I really want to know what you all think of it. Right now, it only seems that turret skills the belong to the operator, and any of the passengers are the only set of skill that actually affect a vehicle. So how would you all react if CCP broadened that idea out to other vehicle related skills in the next build? Shield skills, armor skills, turret skills, racial skills, and anything else relating to vehicles actually all stacked. Right now someone with a proto forge, and some complex dam mods can solo a proto tank. But could that forger solo that tank if it had a 75% increase in both aromer, shields, turrets, and anything else that those three might have speced into? Probably not. Now think of a drop ship. They aren't so paper thin when they have a full load of soldiers, now do they? 175% increase. Thats crazy! It would make vehicle preservation a team effort. Having dedicated vehicle operators that have a soul purpose of making that one vehicle as strong as it could be.
Red Zenith The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1	Posted - 2013.04.09 06:52:00 - [2] - Quote I like it. It could be the way to end the 'tanks are overpowered, dropships are too weak' etc. argument because it would come down to lack of teamwork and preparation. Do you think that a bonus for having the vehicle filled with dropsuits of the corresponding race would work? Or would homogeneous armies be boring?
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 789	Posted - 2013.04.09 07:34:00 - [3] - Quote Nerf dammit! lol jk, but maybe at least some stacking penalties, cause I'm already shitting my pants.
2-Ton Twenty-One Imperfects Negative-Feedback 471	Posted - 2013.04.09 07:43:00 - [4] - Quote -1 Turret gunners with small turret skill already stacks on top of the drivers and i think the other gunner. Tankers that run proto small turrets and have gunners specked into it can annihilate enemy tanks. and the small blaster ends up doing like 150% more dmg or something crazy. Or so I have been told by tankers I know. I cant confirm that.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2411	Posted - 2013.04.09 07:50:00 - [5] - Quote I'm pretty sure Dropships would be OP when you have a full 6-player squad loaded up with passive skill buffs.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 132	Posted - 2013.04.09 09:03:00 - [6] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: So this idea literally just popped into my head, and I really want to know what you all think of it. Right now, it only seems that turret skills the belong to the operator, and any of the passengers are the only set of skill that actually affect a vehicle. So how would you all react if CCP broadened that idea out to other vehicle related skills in the next build? Shield skills, armor skills, turret skills, racial skills, and anything else relating to vehicles actually all stacked. Right now someone with a proto forge, and some complex dam mods can solo a proto tank. But could that forger solo that tank if it had a 75% increase in both aromer, shields, turrets, and anything else that those three might have speced into? Probably not. Now think of a drop ship. They aren't so paper thin when they have a full load of soldiers, now do they? 175% increase. Thats crazy! It would make vehicle preservation a team effort. Having dedicated vehicle operators that have a soul purpose of making that one vehicle as strong as it could be. Its not the tanks job to kill the AV fit Heavy, its his squad of infantry, ow wait video game logic tanks must solo everything....
Musta Tornius BetaMax. CRONOS. 298	Posted - 2013.04.09 09:06:00 - [7] - Quote 2-Ton Twenty-One wrote: -1 Turret gunners with small turret skill already stacks on top of the drivers and i think the other gunner. Tankers that run proto small turrets and have gunners specked into it can annihilate enemy tanks. and the small blaster ends up doing like 150% more dmg or something crazy. Or so I have been told by tankers I know. I cant confirm that. This is what CCP Wolf man said on irc at least.

CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 1287	Posted - 2013.04.09 09:14:00 - [8] - Quote Moving this from General Discussions to Feedback/Requests.

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3372	Posted - 2013.04.09 09:19:00 - [9] - Quote I like it, though I think the marauder class of tanks need to be fixed first before doing something like this; for the massive price increase, its not much gain.
Vyzion Eyri The Legion Academy ROFL BROS 418	Posted - 2013.04.09 10:10:00 - [10] - Quote Love the idea, but to balance it, perhaps there should be a bonus for multiple swarms or forge rounds that hit a vehicle within a certain time frame(perhaps 0.1 seconds less that the smallest spool time you can get a forge gun down to) to encourage coordinated AV too. I'm thinking a slightly less intense version of this.

Zekain Kade BetaMax. CRONOS. 1199	Posted - 2013.04.09 13:43:00 - [11] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: So this idea literally just popped into my head, and I really want to know what you all think of it. Right now, it only seems that turret skills the belong to the operator, and any of the passengers are the only set of skill that actually affect a vehicle. So how would you all react if CCP broadened that idea out to other vehicle related skills in the next build? Shield skills, armor skills, turret skills, racial skills, and anything else relating to vehicles actually all stacked. Right now someone with a proto forge, and some complex dam mods can solo a proto tank. But could that forger solo that tank if it had a 75% increase in both aromer, shields, turrets, and anything else that those three might have speced into? Probably not. Now think of a drop ship. They aren't so paper thin when they have a full load of soldiers, now do they? 175% increase. Thats crazy! It would make vehicle preservation a team effort. Having dedicated vehicle operators that have a soul purpose of making that one vehicle as strong as it could be. Its not the tanks job to kill the AV fit Heavy, its his squad of infantry, ow wait video game logic tanks must solo everything.... its not that it should be able to solo e everything. But rather to give it the ability to survive against high leveled anti vehicle weaponry. A tank would ho down in a matter of second if there were 2 or 3 proto forger pounding it. This would give it a little more health to escape a situation like that. It would also cut down on vehicle spam in a way. You could risk having 2 or 3 weak tanks, or one powerful tank.
Skihids The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 1160	Posted - 2013.04.09 17:24:00 - [12] - Quote 2-Ton Twenty-One wrote: -1 Turret gunners with small turret skill already stacks on top of the drivers and i think the other gunner. Tankers that run proto small turrets and have gunners specked into it can annihilate enemy tanks. and the small blaster ends up doing like 150% more dmg or something crazy. Or so I have been told by tankers I know. I cant confirm that. Turret ops 10% Sm Turret ops 15% Sm Turret Prof 10% That works out to a maximum of 70% increase for the small turrets.
2-Ton Twenty-One Imperfects Negative-Feedback 472	Posted - 2013.04.10 04:24:00 - [13] - Quote Skihids wrote: 2-Ton Twenty-One wrote: -1 Turret gunners with small turret skill already stacks on top of the drivers and i think the other gunner. Tankers that run proto small turrets and have gunners specked into it can annihilate enemy tanks. and the small blaster ends up doing like 150% more dmg or something crazy. Or so I have been told by tankers I know. I cant confirm that. Turret ops 10% Sm Turret ops 15% Sm Turret Prof 10% That works out to a maximum of 70% increase for the small turrets. Does it stack with the driver and the other gunner? I heard it did. also tank dmg mods?
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 850	Posted - 2013.04.10 04:26:00 - [14] - Quote 2-Ton Twenty-One wrote: Skihids wrote: 2-Ton Twenty-One wrote: -1 Turret gunners with small turret skill already stacks on top of the drivers and i think the other gunner. Tankers that run proto small turrets and have gunners specked into it can annihilate enemy tanks. and the small blaster ends up doing like 150% more dmg or something crazy. Or so I have been told by tankers I know. I cant confirm that. Turret ops 10% Sm Turret ops 15% Sm Turret Prof 10% That works out to a maximum of 70% increase for the small turrets. Does it stack with the driver and the other gunner? I heard it did. also tank dmg mods? You heard right
G Torq ALTA B2O 129	Posted - 2013.04.10 08:09:00 - [15] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: 2-Ton Twenty-One wrote: Skihids wrote: 2-Ton Twenty-One wrote: -1 blablabla. blabla That works out to a maximum of 70% increase for the small turrets. Does it stack with the driver and the other gunner? I heard it did. also tank dmg mods? You heard right Do we have any official documentation or statements from CCP related to this?


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