You should check your email then Shad.

The CFC is a non issue here for the time being though..As you found out.

The swastika is a symbol that predates **** germany and originates in India, in fact much of indian culture and lore was perverted and was used as the basis for the justification for the Holocaust, in fact Aryans are sub-asian continent race not a pure white race(fun fact right).

Point is despite the overwhelming a/w a utterly disgusting period of history does that mean its usage by the originating culture should be hidden or unused for out of deference to the another group that view it as something else right? How about other people not within the culture could they not be using that symbol because they observe the traditions and principles of the originating culture tho they are not natively a member of that culture?

The N word predates racism and its a/w as a derogatory form of slang to describe black people. There are scholarly works on the word and it has had multiple meanings throughout history. Anyway people a/w words and symbols based on exposure and contemporary culture at the time, they only have as much power as we allow them to have. It is when political correctness seeks to stifle those words and symbols because of the most pervasive or unacceptable uses that we begin to fail as a society because we inherently are shutting down a discourse to avoid a topic that is otherwise uncomfortable or hurtful for people to have.

I have no such issue because i don't let words hold power over me, i can speak about these things freely and expect that others on a forum can discuss them freely with me too.

It is why free speech was protected first among all else, because when the public space is censored we lose our ability to advance ideas in a common way.

The internet forum is the expansion of the greek concept for which we in the US and many around the world base our governents and our ideology upon.


The fact that generations see the N word ending in ga as a word they simply here by their favorite artists, musicians, actors, comedians etc and see it as nothing more and dont link the notion of race, prejudice, or bigotry because thats not how they view the word means that contemporary attitudes are changing among youth and its usage is not a derogatory slang in their minds but one that often denotes my close friend as its often the usage in contemporary culture, you can thank 80-90's rap hip/hop music for moving us to that point.

I'm sensing..........you're not a black person.

As such you lack the moral position to explain if, how or when a black person should be offended by the "n word". you sound like you mean well but you sorta, kinda have to be there. FACT: The mere implication that the rap music has made the "n word" acceptable is comical beyond reason.

Implying the word holds power over the offended is foolish. I don't allow anyone's culture/race to be insulted in my presence. Its about not allowing hatred to be practiced without taking a stand.

You're attempting to tell the oppressed how they should react to the oppressor. Imagine how foolish a person who has never experienced **** would look trying to tell a **** victim how they should feel or not feel. Or how stupid someone who had never been to war would look trying to explain to a soldier with PTSD how to function. Professional counselors struggle with situations like those above, you'll forgive me if I find your message board diagnosis extremely inadequate, ineffective and inaccurate.

Doubt me? Use the word at your job tomorrow. See how accepted the reaction is. Do it in a public forum and see how people react to you. Free speech is welcome and accepted...hate speech? Not so much.

nono, this is true comedy. That the N word needs to be discussed at all is irony and comedy rolled into one. One of the first things with online interactions you learn is don't bring your real life issues here - that includes your racial issues. Keep it out of my games, period. If you have a problem - tell me and I'll stop - so would most here. This issues does not need be discussed - it's fruitless and was only brought up so a troll could troll.

nono, this is true comedy. That the N word needs to be discussed at all is irony and comedy rolled into one. One of the first things with online interactions you learn is don't bring your real life issues here - that includes your racial issues. Keep it out of my games, period. If you have a problem - tell me and I'll stop - so would most here. This issues does not need be discussed - it's fruitless and was only brought up so a troll could troll.

Comedy is you flamboyantly using the N word when talking with strangers whom maintaining some reputation is important (and of course not knowing who or where anyone is from), also managing to use that word or another highly offensive term about the family of a corp leader zion was trying to Allie with in a conversation with them.

Somehow you are dumb enough to even consider saying such stupid things, to all the wrong people at the wrong time. Yet, have enough cognitive function to understand that the combination of insulting the family of a corp leader we are trying to allie with, with a derogoratory word would have the most effect in doing the exact opposite of what zion shad or any sane person would want in diplomacy.

It basically tops stupid funny that has happened or I have heard have happened in gaming communities I have been in. From one person whining on coms about spending all they had for a week on a mc donalds breakfast sandwich that was not made right, and whining patheticaly on voice comms about it. The time I heard a guy (sounded like a 50-60 year old hick) giving his opinion on political debates being formed by looking at their wives how he supports mitt because he wants bang his wife and show her who the 47% is.

It would be sad if you were not realy trying to be a comedian with outrageous stupid, and were just that dense.

Yes guys - I wasn't brought up in sheltered life style like you all were. I am free with my language and feel no remorse for it. A lot of people have different slang in different areas of the world, the n word is no different. So I'll point it out again - don't force your beliefs on me. The N word was never a source of conflict in my life and it shouldn't be in a video game either. But feel free to feel "ew'ed" by my wanting to freely use whatever word rolls off my tongue when I'm in a heat of a moment. It's not like I use the N word as my everyday word of choice, I'm just comfortable with it. All I can do is apologize your offended and stop.

Let me ask SoTa, is this guy related to you?

http://youtu.be/VY16_nKORb8

Yes guys - I wasn't brought up in sheltered life style like you all were. I am free with my language and feel no remorse for it. A lot of people have different slang in different areas of the world, the n word is no different. So I'll point it out again - don't force your beliefs on me. The N word was never a source of conflict in my life and it shouldn't be in a video game either. But feel free to feel "ew'ed" by my wanting to freely use whatever word rolls off my tongue when I'm in a heat of a moment. It's not like I use the N word as my everyday word of choice, I'm just comfortable with it. All I can do is apologize your offended and stop.

This isn't forcing beliefs its a very modest level of common sense. That allot of normal people have, or at least can pretend to have.

I doubt using the N-word has anything to do with how sheltered a person is, or not. This fellow who uses it from what I know lives with his mom who pays for his internet and game (generally a pretty funny and generally offensive person) https://soundcloud.com/user003723/durrhurrdurr-makes-allies-cry

Regardless of dumb reasons people have for using the word, its VERY offensive to most normal people, fringe communities of trolls, vulger people, racists might be ok with it, so yea, what would be the issue of you being kicked out of zion to join one of those.

And its not just the Fing N word, any highly derogatory word would be a stupid idea to be swinging around like a idiot.

I'm not disagreeing with you. And have even offered apologize and a explanation of the response/habit and a willingness to stop. Wtf more do you want, troll? Get off your damn high horse - I was willing to listen to you - but now your ranting.

Very butt hurt post - take some chil pills and you better be black. lol

I am quite relaxed, and happy. Though....... I think its been a bit too long without something incredibly stupid going on, I think you should identify someone important in another corp who imperfects is allied with, find out what ethnic group they are in and what would be the most offensive slang to call them. And send them a few mails about it. Better yet say it on voice coms, and make sure to get a position of diplomat before you do it. Also insult his or her family, and say you are cheating on their spouce and screwed their mother.

Make sure to record this too, otherwise no one will believe it happened.

Love how I had my posts removed given nothing i said was offensive or even remotely deragatory and made people look like fools but yea thats what i get for actually trying to teach people something on the internet.

I'm not disagreeing with you. And have even offered apologize and a explanation of the response/habit and a willingness to stop. Wtf more do you want, troll? Get off your damn high horse - I was willing to listen to you - but now your ranting.

sorry, ur argument one of the weaker ones tbqh. u tried to sound educated but looked like a fool more than anything else.

Love how I had my posts removed given nothing i said was offensive or even remotely deragatory and made people look like fools but yea thats what i get for actually trying to teach people something on the internet.

Based on the recent CSM stuff CCP are going to be very careful about anything even slightly related to that till the elections over.

Actually it was a poignant and proper analysis of the situation and accurately described. I dont need to try to sound educated i am educated if you read a book as often as forum posts you'd know what that looks like.

sorry, ur argument one of the weaker ones tbqh. u tried to sound educated but looked like a fool more than anything else.

Derail:
You mentioned you'll go forum posting about need for better / more meaningful orbital strike mechanics from EVE. Where can I give you the thumb?

There's a thread up in feedback/suggestions.

A lot of negative stuff from the FPS crowed who are worried they will lose because of OBs being used to turn the tide which is the whole point I think.

sorry but your whole argument is that the political correctness has victimized you by leaving you unable to use the n word, wear swatstikas or call jewish people names.

i'm a white person from illinois and what you say is borderline offensive. If you're educated I dont want any part of it. talk about out of touch. smh