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Zion Shad wrote:

JUST A SCRUB wrote:

The derailing in this thread is hilarious. Mostly because the accusations that Pato made against Sota are false. Somewhere lockyotutrlex /STOPPLAYING is laughing his ass off watching Sota take the hit for what he said about an old school mag beef with y dubbs. In short Pato stop talking about **** you know nothing about. Sota was kicked for trolling an emo in TCD. You've got his story confused with another . Please continue though for my entertainment.

It's true we removed STOPPLAYING from ZionTCD for using this kind of language and yes SoTa was removed for being a troll, but there does seem to be a situation in which SoTa has used this raciest slang to offend someone.

SoTa PoP wrote:

Yes guys - I wasn't brought up in sheltered life style like you all were. I am free with my language and feel no remorse for it. A lot of people have different slang in different areas of the world, the n word is no different. So I'll point it out again - don't force your beliefs on me. The N word was never a source of conflict in my life and it shouldn't be in a video game either. But feel free to feel "ew'ed" by my wanting to freely use whatever word rolls off my tongue when I'm in a heat of a moment. It's not like I use the N word as my everyday word of choice, I'm just comfortable with it. All I can do is apologize your offended and stop.

Even if he is trying to mislead people here, then it is still a very poor troll and a lot of people have lost respect for him and his postings.


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Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 469	Posted - 2013.04.11 18:49:00 - [1] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: What blacks in real life? People you know or grew up with? Try going to a town you dont know and call a black dude the N word and see if he laughs with you. I, personally dont get offended by the N word because it is just a word. But i will never condone a white guy to use the N word because of the history of it. And I posted about this because you are obviously oblivious to this. I doubt you would come to a neighborhood like the one i grew up in and say that word....even jokingly. And if you wouldnt do it in public around strangers that would take your head off....then you would know that it isnt cool. The swastika is a symbol that predates **** germany and originates in India, in fact much of indian culture and lore was perverted and was used as the basis for the justification for the Holocaust, in fact Aryans are sub-asian continent race not a pure white race(fun fact right). Point is despite the overwhelming a/w a utterly disgusting period of history does that mean its usage by the originating culture should be hidden or unused for out of deference to the another group that view it as something else right? How about other people not within the culture could they not be using that symbol because they observe the traditions and principles of the originating culture tho they are not natively a member of that culture? The N word predates racism and its a/w as a derogatory form of slang to describe black people. There are scholarly works on the word and it has had multiple meanings throughout history. Anyway people a/w words and symbols based on exposure and contemporary culture at the time, they only have as much power as we allow them to have. It is when political correctness seeks to stifle those words and symbols because of the most pervasive or unacceptable uses that we begin to fail as a society because we inherently are shutting down a discourse to avoid a topic that is otherwise uncomfortable or hurtful for people to have. I have no such issue because i don't let words hold power over me, i can speak about these things freely and expect that others on a forum can discuss them freely with me too. It is why free speech was protected first among all else, because when the public space is censored we lose our ability to advance ideas in a common way. The internet forum is the expansion of the greek concept for which we in the US and many around the world base our governents and our ideology upon. The fact that generations see the N word ending in ga as a word they simply here by their favorite artists, musicians, actors, comedians etc and see it as nothing more and dont link the notion of race, prejudice, or bigotry because thats not how they view the word means that contemporary attitudes are changing among youth and its usage is not a derogatory slang in their minds but one that often denotes my close friend as its often the usage in contemporary culture, you can thank 80-90's rap hip/hop music for moving us to that point.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 473	Posted - 2013.04.11 19:12:00 - [2] - Quote Oh i hardly care if people like what i just said, most people are so damn gun shy because of political correctness that you cant even advance from where we are with these words and symbols because you cant even have actual conversation about the words without someone lableling you a racist. In fact i hearby declare that the word racist is racist and prejudices people against an individual who is not actually racist.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 477	Posted - 2013.04.12 05:04:00 - [3] - Quote Love how I had my posts removed given nothing i said was offensive or even remotely deragatory and made people look like fools but yea thats what i get for actually trying to teach people something on the internet.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 477	Posted - 2013.04.12 08:32:00 - [4] - Quote Tyjus Vacca wrote: Gunner Nightingale wrote: Love how I had my posts removed given nothing i said was offensive or even remotely deragatory and made people look like fools but yea thats what i get for actually trying to teach people something on the internet. sorry, ur argument one of the weaker ones tbqh. u tried to sound educated but looked like a fool more than anything else. Actually it was a poignant and proper analysis of the situation and accurately described. I dont need to try to sound educated i am educated if you read a book as often as forum posts you'd know what that looks like.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 482	Posted - 2013.04.12 19:48:00 - [5] - Quote Prius Vecht wrote: Gunner Nightingale wrote: Tyjus Vacca wrote: Gunner Nightingale wrote: Love how I had my posts removed given nothing i said was offensive or even remotely deragatory and made people look like fools but yea thats what i get for actually trying to teach people something on the internet. sorry, ur argument one of the weaker ones tbqh. u tried to sound educated but looked like a fool more than anything else. Actually it was a poignant and proper analysis of the situation and accurately described. I dont need to try to sound educated i am educated if you read a book as often as forum posts you'd know what that looks like. sorry but your whole argument is that the political correctness has victimized you by leaving you unable to use the n word, wear swatstikas or call jewish people names. i'm a white person from illinois and what you say is borderline offensive. If you're educated I dont want any part of it. talk about out of touch. smh Clearly your reading comprehension is lacking its not your fault clearly the state of Illinois has failed you What i said was that symbols and words have different meanings to different people, the swatiska is the largest example. Go travel to India and tell people that they can't put a swstika on their doorstep(mind you the indian swatika is at perfectly vertical and horizontal instead of angled like the ** german one and has 4 dots in each space that represents certain aspects of indian tradition and culture). Ill save myself a forum ban and not go any further but really the point was just because you and your culture dictates that a word or symbol is unacceptable does not mean it is universally so we live in a global world, especially on the internet and in gaming forums. Such is the case with the word **, a word deemed offensive and a curse word stateside is common vernacular in britain. But allow me to finish off you weak and pathetic argument with this final point since being deemed offensive is your criteria. In the carribean, many islamic nations, a few african nations and others Pornography, homosexuality, and free women are offensive and in some instances illegal, so you are not allowed to speak about them to me because of this fact. /sarcasm Please stop talking and get your reading comprehension up to a level thats worthy of engaging me in conversation o/w you need not respond.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 482	Posted - 2013.04.12 19:57:00 - [6] - Quote Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote: trollsroyce wrote: Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote: Gunner Nightingale wrote: Love how I had my posts removed given nothing i said was offensive or even remotely deragatory and made people look like fools but yea thats what i get for actually trying to teach people something on the internet. Based on the recent CSM stuff CCP are going to be very careful about anything even slightly related to that till the elections over. Derail: You mentioned you'll go forum posting about need for better / more meaningful orbital strike mechanics from EVE. Where can I give you the thumb? There's a thread up in feedback/suggestions. A lot of negative stuff from the FPS crowed who are worried they will lose because of OBs being used to turn the tide which is the whole point I think. CW the premise of your idea isnt bad but there needs further fleshing. Personally i dont think WB strikes should stack on OB strikes, if they do then the WB strike needs a larger WP requirement (somehting that needs to happen with 6 players squads coming) If am all for EVE side OB on a timer if there is sufficient warning on the ground from assest such as orbital scanners that can detect this stuff(making them a target for destruction perhaps) now add to this district shielding maintained by generators(again perhaps destructible or at least hackable like null cannons) and add planetary cannons again hackable Now you have the basis of skirmish 1.0 and raiding parties that go to intially sabotage these defensive structures which protect it from air support over a longer term (days-weeks battle). These structures could in theory be destroyed as well but the mechanism on how to go about it would be interesting. Now given all the time and money needed to commited to doing all these things the control of these districts must have large worthwhile benefits to warrant such a commitment of resources. Oh additionally i want an endor sitiuation where not only can i attack enemy eve pilots but support friendly pilots with some sort of shielding or idk you eve guys can tell me what would be of benefit to eve pilots in space pew pew.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 482	Posted - 2013.04.12 20:18:00 - [7] - Quote Zion Shad wrote: JUST A SCRUB wrote: The derailing in this thread is hilarious. Mostly because the accusations that Pato made against Sota are false. Somewhere lockyotutrlex /STOPPLAYING is laughing his ass off watching Sota take the hit for what he said about an old school mag beef with y dubbs. In short Pato stop talking about ** you know nothing about. Sota was kicked for trolling an emo in TCD. You've got his story confused with another . Please continue though for my entertainment. It's true we removed STOPPLAYING from ZionTCD for using this kind of language and yes SoTa was removed for being a troll, but there does seem to be a situation in which SoTa has used this raciest slang to offend someone. SoTa PoP wrote:** Yes guys - I wasn't brought up in sheltered life style like you all were. I am free with my language and feel no remorse for it. A lot of people have different slang in different areas of the world, the n word is no different. So I'll point it out again - don't force your beliefs on me. The N word was never a source of conflict in my life and it shouldn't be in a video game either. But feel free to feel "ew'ed" by my wanting to freely use whatever word rolls off my tongue when I'm in a heat of a moment. It's not like I use the N word as my everyday word of choice, I'm just comfortable with it. All I can do is apologize your offended and stop. Even if he is trying to mislead people here, then it is still a very poor troll and a lot of people have lost respect for him and his postings. Oh no ppl lost respect for a person on the interwebz If thats something you consider important why haven't you stepped down as CEO of Zion TCD, bit akward given all your mismanagement and well lack of ability to maintain an organization.
Gunner Nightingale Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 482	Posted - 2013.04.12 21:25:00 - [8] - Quote Lu Mengz wrote: Quote: It's true we removed STOPPLAYING from ZionTCD for using this kind of language and yes SoTa was removed for being a troll, but there does seem to be a situation in which SoTa has used this raciest slang to offend someone. That's a rather vague statement. "Seems to be a situation" or is there one? SoTa never seemed the type to offend someone unless provoked. Unless there's a name to the offender it just seems like your targeting SoTa for no reason at all. And weren't you all for dropping this side topic? Firing your guns now makes you seem bi-polar when no more insults were being thrown at anyone till you started again on SoTa. No wonder your corp is falling a part. I see shaddy's using alts to engage himself in a pseudo pvp war so he can finally win one of these exchanges, grabs popcorn and wait to see what internet loon looks like when they argue with themselves.