DUST Search - So were the Warbarges cut?

Arron Rift wrote:

Draxus Prime wrote:

Arron Rift wrote:

Captain-Awesome wrote:

Delirium Inferno wrote:

Soon TM

Baby steps.

this. They will be there eventually, but we can't just put them in the game, it wouldn't work. The foundations need to be setup first or Goons will blow every barge to kingdom come.

So will we be able to just teleport to planets at launch, but then at some later date they'll just say "sorry, now you need a special $1,000,000 ship :D"

Or do you think will they make invasions not require ships, and move Warbarges into more of a support role, where an EVE player could hover one of these by a planet to provide for re-enforcements and fire down installations?

Or would this work in some other way I haven't even thought of? I'm just trying to figure this out, as launch day is coming much faster than I'd thought and I have always imagined us having more stuff by then :P

i dobut this won't be beta tested, probably come in 0.9 the build after uprisin

I'm pretty sure that Uprising IS the release build, in order to release the game on April 14th, EVE's 10 year anniversary, and the 5/14 that is mentioned in the game's title "dust 514"

Which if that is true, then it probably won't be beta tested...

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Arron Rift Commando Perkone Caldari State 77	Posted - 2013.04.07 23:19:00 - [1] - Quote Title says it all. At one point I think the warbarges were going to be the EVE ship that physically traveled to planets marked for invasion and it was from there that the MCCs were deployed. But now it seems that we are going to just magically teleport to the planets that we invade. So my question is this: Are the warbarges not part of the plan anymore?
Delirium Inferno Chernova Industries 90	Posted - 2013.04.07 23:21:00 - [2] - Quote Soon TM Baby steps.
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 390	Posted - 2013.04.07 23:23:00 - [3] - Quote Delirium Inferno wrote: Soon TM Baby steps. this. They will be there eventually, but we can't just put them in the game, it wouldn't work. The foundations need to be setup first or Goons will blow every barge to kingdom come.
Arron Rift Commando Perkone Caldari State 77	Posted - 2013.04.08 01:11:00 - [4] - Quote Captain-Awesome wrote: Delirium Inferno wrote: Soon TM Baby steps. this. They will be there eventually, but we can't just put them in the game, it wouldn't work. The foundations need to be setup first or Goons will blow every barge to kingdom come. So will we be able to just teleport to planets at launch, but then at some later date they'll just say "sorry, now you need a special $1,000,000 ship :D" Or do you think will they make invasions not require ships, and move Warbarges into more of a support role, where an EVE player could hover one of these by a planet to provide for re-enforcements and fire down installations? Or would this work in some other way I haven't even thought of? I'm just trying to figure this out, as launch day is coming much faster than I'd thought and I have always imagined us having more stuff by then :P
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3364	Posted - 2013.04.08 01:13:00 - [5] - Quote Soon, the need for them doesn't exist yet
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 561	Posted - 2013.04.08 01:17:00 - [6] - Quote Arron Rift wrote: Captain-Awesome wrote: Delirium Inferno wrote: Soon TM Baby steps. this. They will be there eventually, but we can't just put them in the game, it wouldn't work. The foundations need to be setup first or Goons will blow every barge to kingdom come. So will we be able to just teleport to planets at launch, but then at some later date they'll just say "sorry, now you need a special $1,000,000 ship :D" Or do you think will they make invasions not require ships, and move Warbarges into more of a support role, where an EVE player could hover one of these by a planet to provide for re-enforcements and fire down installations? Or would this work in some other way I haven't even thought of? I'm just trying to figure this out, as launch day is coming much faster than I'd thought and I have always imagined us having more stuff by then :P Hahahahahah, 1,000,000 ISK? That's cute, try +100,000,000 ISK
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3366	Posted - 2013.04.08 01:23:00 - [7] - Quote Lol A warbarge? Try 2,000,000,000.00 isk for HULL alone.
Delirium Inferno Chernova Industries 90	Posted - 2013.04.08 01:24:00 - [8] - Quote Arron Rift wrote: Captain-Awesome wrote: Delirium Inferno wrote: Soon TM Baby steps. this. They will be there eventually, but we can't just put them in the game, it wouldn't work. The foundations need to be setup first or Goons will blow every barge to kingdom come. So will we be able to just teleport to planets at launch, but then at some later date they'll just say "sorry, now you need a special $1,000,000 ship :D" Or do you think will they make invasions not require ships, and move Warbarges into more of a support role, where an EVE player could hover one of these by a planet to provide for re-enforcements and fire down installations? Or would this work in some other way I haven't even thought of? I'm just trying to figure this out, as launch day is coming much faster than I'd thought and I have always imagined us having more stuff by then :P As far as planetary conquest goes they already have a cost associated with transporting your clones from district to district.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation 1935	Posted - 2013.04.08 01:56:00 - [9] - Quote Arron Rift wrote: "sorry, now you need a special $1,000,000 ship :D" We're talking about a warbarge here, not a measly destroyer. Since the warbarge has to be big enough to house the clones needed to attack/defend, house a descent supply of installations, vehicles, and carry within them MCCs (which are pretty huge already) then the size of the warbarge will be about equal to that of a capital ship or larger like a supercarrier or a dreadnaught I bet. That said, the price will be pretty big. The MCC alone already costs a little over 100 million ISK. The warbarge will no doubt be in the billions.
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 42	Posted - 2013.04.08 02:01:00 - [10] - Quote Arron Rift wrote: Captain-Awesome wrote: Delirium Inferno wrote: Soon TM Baby steps. this. They will be there eventually, but we can't just put them in the game, it wouldn't work. The foundations need to be setup first or Goons will blow every barge to kingdom come. So will we be able to just teleport to planets at launch, but then at some later date they'll just say "sorry, now you need a special $1,000,000 ship :D" Or do you think will they make invasions not require ships, and move Warbarges into more of a support role, where an EVE player could hover one of these by a planet to provide for re-enforcements and fire down installations? Or would this work in some other way I haven't even thought of? I'm just trying to figure this out, as launch day is coming much faster than I'd thought and I have always imagined us having more stuff by then :P i dobut this won't be beta tested, probably come in 0.9 the build after uprisin

Arron Rift Commando Perkone Caldari State 77	Posted - 2013.04.08 16:46:00 - [11] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: Arron Rift wrote: Captain-Awesome wrote: Delirium Inferno wrote: Soon TM Baby steps. this. They will be there eventually, but we can't just put them in the game, it wouldn't work. The foundations need to be setup first or Goons will blow every barge to kingdom come. So will we be able to just teleport to planets at launch, but then at some later date they'll just say "sorry, now you need a special $1,000,000 ship :D" Or do you think will they make invasions not require ships, and move Warbarges into more of a support role, where an EVE player could hover one of these by a planet to provide for re-enforcements and fire down installations? Or would this work in some other way I haven't even thought of? I'm just trying to figure this out, as launch day is coming much faster than I'd thought and I have always imagined us having more stuff by then :P i dobut this won't be beta tested, probably come in 0.9 the build after uprisin I'm pretty sure that Uprising IS the release build, in order to release the game on April 14th, EVE's 10 year anniversary, and the 5/14 that is mentioned in the game's title "dust 514" Which if that is true, then it probably won't be beta tested...
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3369	Posted - 2013.04.08 16:50:00 - [12] - Quote Dust 514 Uprising is a Beta Expansion. Not a release build.
OMC TONTO Old Man Clan 0	Posted - 2013.04.08 17:00:00 - [13] - Quote Arron Rift wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: Arron Rift wrote: Captain-Awesome wrote: Delirium Inferno wrote: Soon TM Baby steps. this. They will be there eventually, but we can't just put them in the game, it wouldn't work. The foundations need to be setup first or Goons will blow every barge to kingdom come. So will we be able to just teleport to planets at launch, but then at some later date they'll just say "sorry, now you need a special $1,000,000 ship :D" Or do you think will they make invasions not require ships, and move Warbarges into more of a support role, where an EVE player could hover one of these by a planet to provide for re-enforcements and fire down installations? Or would this work in some other way I haven't even thought of? I'm just trying to figure this out, as launch day is coming much faster than I'd thought and I have always imagined us having more stuff by then :P i dobut this won't be beta tested, probably come in 0.9 the build after uprisin I'm pretty sure that Uprising IS the release build, in order to release the game on April 14th, EVE's 10 year anniversary, and the 5/14 that is mentioned in the game's title "dust 514" Which if that is true, then it probably won't be beta tested... It has been confirmed by CCP that uprising is not the release build. Search the forums and you'll see. I'm not posting a link cuz I don't like lazy people. Find it yourself. Lol.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc 134	Posted - 2013.04.08 17:09:00 - [14] - Quote What in the world makes an MCC cost 100M, thats crazy, they are about as big as a destroyer. I saw those size comparison videos and when you are playing Dust its about as big as a destroyer. 10M tops, anything else is a big rip off.
Ludwig Van Beatdropin Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 196	Posted - 2013.04.08 17:11:00 - [15] - Quote Arron Rift wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: Arron Rift wrote: Captain-Awesome wrote: Delirium Inferno wrote: Soon TM Baby steps. this. They will be there eventually, but we can't just put them in the game, it wouldn't work. The foundations need to be setup first or Goons will blow every barge to kingdom come. So will we be able to just teleport to planets at launch, but then at some later date they'll just say "sorry, now you need a special $1,000,000 ship :D" Or do you think will they make invasions not require ships, and move Warbarges into more of a support role, where an EVE player could hover one of these by a planet to provide for re-enforcements and fire down installations? Or would this work in some other way I haven't even thought of? I'm just trying to figure this out, as launch day is coming much faster than I'd thought and I have always imagined us having more stuff by then :P i dobut this won't be beta tested, probably come in 0.9 the build after uprisin I'm pretty sure that Uprising IS the release build, in order to release the game on April 14th, EVE's 10 year anniversary, and the 5/14 that is mentioned in the game's title "dust 514" Which if that is true, then it probably won't be beta tested... April Is the fourth month, not fifth. It would be 4/14 Derp.
Ten-Sidhe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 453	Posted - 2013.04.08 17:13:00 - [16] - Quote Warbarges are coming, may be a few years. There will be builds even after the game is out of beta. CCP's EvE expansions are new builds twice a year. Warbarges will be added in one of these after launch. I think CCP wants to get data on how the pc is working, then expand it, get more data, before adding warbarges. Also, the MCC will be user driven, I would guess that would be added before the warbarge. The current clone movement cost is probably meant to represent npc warbarge rental for transport. The last Dev comment I saw on warbarge control said it should probably be EvE controlled. They seemed to have not decided but were leaning that way. They could come up with something else by the time it is added.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2705	Posted - 2013.04.08 19:29:00 - [17] - Quote Warbarges? thats coming good sir! just u wait and see! should arrive sometime at the end of their 10 yr road map so expect around 2023 or as the devs in CCP say........SoonGäó
Arron Rift Commando Perkone Caldari State 77	Posted - 2013.04.09 05:06:00 - [18] - Quote ------------------- Or would this work in some other way I haven't even thought of? I'm just trying to figure this out, as launch day is coming much faster than I'd thought and I have always imagined us having more stuff by then :P[/quote] i dobut this won't be beta tested, probably come in 0.9 the build after uprisin[/quote] I'm pretty sure that Uprising IS the release build, in order to release the game on April 14th, EVE's 10 year anniversary, and the 5/14 that is mentioned in the game's title "dust 514" Which if that is true, then it probably won't be beta tested...[/quote] April Is the fourth month, not fifth. It would be 4/14 Derp. Whoops, sorry I was in a hurry and I got my month wrong, but I did mean NEXT month (which I now realize would be MAY (slaps self in face :P)).
Arron Rift Commando Perkone Caldari State 77	Posted - 2013.04.09 05:10:00 - [19] - Quote Ten-Sidhe wrote: Warbarges are coming, may be a few years. There will be builds even after the game is out of beta. CCP's EvE expansions are new builds twice a year. Warbarges will be added in one of these after launch. I think CCP wants to get data on how the pc is working, then expand it, get more data, before adding warbarges. Also, the MCC will be user driven, I would guess that would be added before the warbarge. The current clone movement cost is probably meant to represent npc warbarge rental for transport. The last Dev comment I saw on warbarge control said it should probably be EvE controlled. They seemed to have not decided but were leaning that way. They could come up with something else by the time it is added. So what I'm gathering is that this game is NOT coming out next month, or probably even the month after that, as I thought I heard somewhere? (granted I think I may have heard that somewhere on the forums, so that could explain my confusion :P).
Arron Rift Commando Perkone Caldari State 77	Posted - 2013.04.09 05:17:00 - [20] - Quote Oh, no, NVM, I just went to General and saw this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67074&find=unread which says it is releasing soon O.O it which case, my above concerns are still (somewhat) valid : /

Valkreena Haederox Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 30	Posted - 2013.04.09 05:18:00 - [21] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: What in the world makes an MCC cost 100M, thats crazy, they are about as big as a destroyer. I saw those size comparison videos and when you are playing Dust its about as big as a destroyer. 10M tops, anything else is a big rip off. Yeah, I find it highly unlikely that an MCC will cost as much as one of my 800 meter long battleships. It could happen, but good lord, why would it? I'm figuring a mil or two for the basic model.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2410	Posted - 2013.04.09 05:31:00 - [22] - Quote Warbarge? That's where your Precision Strike comes from. At the moment, that and the pre-battle lobby are all the Warbarge does. Will probably stay that way as long as we stick to LowSec. I think Warbarges will only be a thing in NullSec, based on the way PC is going to work in its first iteration.
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 122	Posted - 2013.04.09 14:02:00 - [23] - Quote Valkreena Haederox wrote: Daedric Lothar wrote: What in the world makes an MCC cost 100M, thats crazy, they are about as big as a destroyer. I saw those size comparison videos and when you are playing Dust its about as big as a destroyer. 10M tops, anything else is a big rip off. Yeah, I find it highly unlikely that an MCC will cost as much as one of my 800 meter long battleships. It could happen, but good lord, why would it? I'm figuring a mil or two for the basic model. Your battleship is spacelocked and incapable of atmospheric flight. The MCC does not have this issue due to advanced technology. Advanced technology costs money.
Alex Bradshaw The Merc Net 13	Posted - 2013.04.09 14:23:00 - [24] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: What in the world makes an MCC cost 100M, thats crazy, they are about as big as a destroyer. I saw those size comparison videos and when you are playing Dust its about as big as a destroyer. 10M tops, anything else is a big rip off. check this video during E3, quotes an MCC as costing 120M http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKtYqWBR7h0&list=PLIvBxIkQy0X0Dvf_QDxClrE2BtgHfh1m0&index=4
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc 146	Posted - 2013.04.09 14:41:00 - [25] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Your battleship is spacelocked and incapable of atmospheric flight. The MCC does not have this issue due to advanced technology. Advanced technology costs money. You actually almost made me have a moment of rage. Well played. If others want to pay it, so be it. This game will crash and burn before I send 100M on something like an MCC. UNLESS... You let me fly it around during a dust match and let me drop orbital strikes from point blank every 15-20 seconds from each module slot. Then I will pay your 100M and also laugh maniacally. MUahahahahahaha.


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