DUST Search - [Request] Corps & PC: Incentives for the individual @FoxFour & Nullarbor

A'Real Fury wrote:

If most of your income is derived from your direct involvement in PC battles then what happens to all those players who are not good enough to be on the primary 16 person team but is still required to contribute via corp taxes.

For example you have a corp of 50, 100, 200 + members then you will work out who are the best 20 or 30 players etc and only use them for PC battles leaving the remaining 20 to 170 players with nothing but a continuous drain on their wallets while those 20 to 30 players live it up in the protos you paid for and still make a profit on each of the battles they are involved in.

The idea floated that anybody who contributes Isk regardless of whether they are involved in the actual battle is a good one. Profits from a district should be solely based on the Isk invested by that member. For those that actually fight in PC their bonus income will come from the salvage, or a percentage of it, that they receive from a successful attack or defence of a territory since all the equipment used will come out of the corps coffers.

For those corps, which are not made up of good friends and families, who do not make a profit or at least offer something else desirable like training will find that they will loose their lower ranked members fast.

I would hate to see a situation where the majority of the lower ranked, non elite players, end up creating mini corps on their alt toons because they get nothing out of larger corps.

It doesn't have to be about Isk but corps must foster strong and happy relationships with all of their members or risk loosing them and their Isk.


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Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 462	Posted - 2013.04.07 07:21:00 - [1] - Quote Well the individual merc gets paid with battles in PC. If you lose, each player gets loot which might not cover what he lost in fittings. If you win, you're guaranteed 12 million ISK to your team if you lose no clones yourself. That's 750k ISK + loot each player will get. If you win, but lose 100 clones yourself you'll get 20 million ISK to your team. That's 1,25 million ISK + loot to each player. With 100 deaths it would be 6 deaths each on average, so it should cover each player's loss. All of this require trading or corp hangars of course, since the loot you get will probably be useless for you (getting HMGs when you're a sniper etc).
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 462	Posted - 2013.04.07 14:33:00 - [2] - Quote A'Real Fury wrote: If most of your income is derived from your direct involvement in PC battles then what happens to all those players who are not good enough to be on the primary 16 person team but is still required to contribute via corp taxes. For example you have a corp of 50, 100, 200 + members then you will work out who are the best 20 or 30 players etc and only use them for PC battles leaving the remaining 20 to 170 players with nothing but a continuous drain on their wallets while those 20 to 30 players live it up in the protos you paid for and still make a profit on each of the battles they are involved in. The idea floated that anybody who contributes Isk regardless of whether they are involved in the actual battle is a good one. Profits from a district should be solely based on the Isk invested by that member. For those that actually fight in PC their bonus income will come from the salvage, or a percentage of it, that they receive from a successful attack or defence of a territory since all the equipment used will come out of the corps coffers. For those corps, which are not made up of good friends and families, who do not make a profit or at least offer something else desirable like training will find that they will loose their lower ranked members fast. I would hate to see a situation where the majority of the lower ranked, non elite players, end up creating mini corps on their alt toons because they get nothing out of larger corps. It doesn't have to be about Isk but corps must foster strong and happy relationships with all of their members or risk loosing them and their Isk. See Piercing Serenity's post above mine. Also only the best 20-30 players get to play in PC? That's only depending on how many districts you own. If you only hold 1 or 2 then yes, only the best 20-30 will play. What if you hold 10 districts? That's 10 hours those 20-30 players have to be on every single day if you have different timers on each district. If you have the timers over less hours you will need more than 20-30 to defend them all. Honestly I don't see why each individual merc need to get ISK directly from the district(s) the corporation owns. If the corporation decides to give out the ISK made from districts that's fine, but the profit for the individual mercs should come from the battles. I see the tax as something you pay for being in the corp, not as something to pay for PC. If the tax is too high for you, then you can always find another corp. As a member of a corp you can also play FW battles, so it's not just PC battles you can participate in.