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Charizard Zakalwe
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.04.06 22:34:00 -
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Hello Dusters, I am Charizard Zakalwe, Detective Chief Inspector of His Majesty's Imperial Immobile Infantry Internal Investigatory Commission.
I am writing this post to you today to talk about a growing a concern, going by a number of recent threads. That of teamkilling. There seems to have been numerous cases of accusations against Immobile Infantry members teamkilling throughout games. I would like to address these accusations and general concerns, as well as provide a general guide on how to deal with someone on your team teamkilling. We take these accusations very seriously, and don't want any bad eggs to soil the image of the Immobile Infantry. If any player is found guilty of team killing, they'll be removed from the Corp and we will do our best to keep them out of any blue corp.
First of all, if you would like to report any given member of Immobile Infantry for teamkilling you, please provide a detailed description of what happened here. Map, game mode, time of day, names of all the parties involved, your fittings/vehicle fittings, and just what was going on in the game when these killings occurred. There are currently talks amongst the top brass about issuing some reparations to injured parties, assuming guilt can suitably be proven and values of the lost fittings adequeately established, but I make no promises at this time.
Additionally, the more corroborating reports we get, the quicker and more accurately we'll be able to investigate claims. Please get your friends, corp mates, and any other witnesses to post as well. When you post a claim, you'll be given a case ID #, keep it handy and have your witnesses include it in their posts. If you ever need to ask anyone else about your claims, your case ID # will be of immense help.
(Note: please bear in mind Forum Rules when filing reports. No flaming, or swearing or the like. Please keep it civil.)
The key motivations of a team killer, in my experience, are the following
1) To punish a losing team for a lack of aggression. Most often, your team is losing, members of your team are not providing adequate aggression to take point, kill bad guys, and turn the game around. After they've thrown themselves at the enemy several times, only to have the majority of their teammates stay behind and focus on sniping, they're liable to give up, spawn a free jeep, and run over some blues, either to pass the time or motivate you to move up and get in on the action. Similarly, if you're AFK in the MCC, hoping to just scoop up free points, you're liable to be TK'd so you will be kicked and not get any points.
2) Fun: It's amusing to some people. This player will likely only want to TK you. Your only real option to be aggressive, bringing him closer to the action, where he's more likely to be killed reds than kill blues. If he's focusing on killing you, lead him to a regular fight, where his options are limited to fighting reds or dying. You'll make him more useful.
I'll be making more a proper guide to handle these things soon. |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
722
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Posted - 2013.04.06 22:54:00 -
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Her majesty or his majesty, or maybe Thee Majesty? |
Sigberct Amni
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
40
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Posted - 2013.04.06 23:35:00 -
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Thumbs up! A+++ service, will file a claim again should the need arise! |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
2962
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Posted - 2013.04.06 23:45:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/cMXnahe.gif
Really happy I have that one bookmarked. |
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Dexter Peabody
Immobile Infantry
29
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Posted - 2013.04.07 00:11:00 -
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i heard sammus once killed 50 friendlies in one match, ccp you have to do something about this |
sammus420
Immobile Infantry
32
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Posted - 2013.04.07 00:14:00 -
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Dexter Peabody wrote:i heard sammus once killed 50 friendlies in one match, ccp you have to do something about this
It wasn't just me, several members who shall not be named here for their safety also participated. Of course, it looks like those days might be coming to an end. It appears I might have to start playing with that Devil's Imp guy. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
682
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Posted - 2013.04.07 00:18:00 -
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1/10 |
BlG MAMA
PLAYSTATION4
39
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Posted - 2013.04.07 00:18:00 -
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Internet drama starting in 5,4,3,2,1... |
klapon
Immobile Infantry
5
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Posted - 2013.04.07 00:34:00 -
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sammus420 wrote:Dexter Peabody wrote:i heard sammus once killed 50 friendlies in one match, ccp you have to do something about this It wasn't just me, several members who shall not be named here for their safety also participated. Of course, it looks like those days might be coming to an end. It appears I might have to start playing with that Devil's Imp guy.
Wait, seriously? What the **** man, I thought you were cool. We'll be having a conversation later, be on at 10 PM EST. Understood? |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
659
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Posted - 2013.04.07 00:41:00 -
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Question: Does His Majesty's Imperial Immobile Infantry bear any relation to His Imperial Majesty's Elite Orbital Bomber Squadron?
If so, can you, as a representative of HMIII comment on whether or not HIMEOBS actually exists?
In addition, can you comment on whether one can jump high enough? |
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blue gt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2013.04.07 01:14:00 -
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if sammus killed 50 friendlies in one match they deserved it and learned some valuable lessons. |
sammus420
Immobile Infantry
32
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Posted - 2013.04.07 02:44:00 -
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blue gt wrote:if sammus killed 50 friendlies in one match they deserved it and learned some valuable lessons.
They really did deserve it. It's almost impossible to TK people who are actually playing the game. But when you have 5 red line snipers who don't want to leave and 3 people in the MCC, everything falls apart. And they get run over, a lot, for this.
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Leither Yiltron
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
431
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Posted - 2013.04.07 04:26:00 -
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Charizard Zakalwe wrote:Please send us your butthurt so that we can lulz over your tears.
Fixed this for you.
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Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1083
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Posted - 2013.04.07 04:30:00 -
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TK is best K |
G Sacred
Rubber Chicken Bombers
76
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Posted - 2013.04.07 04:33:00 -
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sammus420 wrote:Dexter Peabody wrote:i heard sammus once killed 50 friendlies in one match, ccp you have to do something about this It wasn't just me, several members who shall not be named here for their safety also participated. Of course, it looks like those days might be coming to an end. It appears I might have to start playing with that Devil's Imp guy.
Lol whats funny is this thread appears to be a bunch of bullkitten. Not only did you just admit to team killing (Myself and Loki Arbk, CEO of Rubber Chicken Bombers, have been victims to), but your still in Immobile Infantry. Pray neither I nor my fellow bombers see you on the battlefield, because friendly or foe, we will seek revenge. |
sammus420
Immobile Infantry
32
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Posted - 2013.04.07 04:35:00 -
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The new orders against team killing didn't come out until after those little fun time jaunts occured. They won't kick me out for past infractions, but I can't go on LAV murder sprees anymore At least I can't and talk about it. |
G Sacred
Rubber Chicken Bombers
76
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Posted - 2013.04.07 04:45:00 -
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sammus420 wrote:The new orders against team killing didn't come out until after those little fun time jaunts occured. They won't kick me out for past infractions, but I can't go on LAV murder sprees anymore At least I can't and talk about it.
You deserve a special title. So that every one knows as soon as you enter a match that you TK people. Can we get a security status in Dust or something? I guarantee this guy would be at least a -1.2. If we did get a security status, when it exceeds -1.0 we should be allowed to shoot on site. If one is TK by a person, we should receive Kill Rights just like in EVE. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1046
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Posted - 2013.04.07 05:04:00 -
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sorry but TK'ing is the dumbest sh*t ever.
Even worse than AFK farming, as they're not costing teams clones. "OH NO YOU'RE AFK!! WE'RE LOSING BECAUSE OF YOU!!! QQ"... but hey, TK is just fine cuz it's for lulz...
Great logic in this forum |
Charizard Zakalwe
Immobile Infantry
5
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Posted - 2013.04.07 05:14:00 -
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More over, even if he did TK after these rules went into effect (And you certainly can't punish someone for doing something before it was against the rules), there is a clearly defined process for this thread.
You must file a claim, here, in this thread. This claim will contain the name of any and all Immobile Infantry members involved in your claim. You must provide a detailed account of what happened. You must provide a detailed account of what you lost. Fittings, vehicle fits, their costs and the total number you lost. A final Isk/Aur sum is required. While there are talks to pay out reparations if guilt and value can be adequately determined, we can't pay out for him destroying a free fit or a fit off all BPO's or something. You will then be given a case number. Keep track of this number. Ask any and all witness present to provide corroborating testimony. Give them your case number so we can keep things organized. I, and my investigatory squadron will then look into things on our end, as someone will probably be happily bragging about it later. Most investigator's identities will remain anonymous, as no one will is going to want to talk to a narc. Then, if guilt is established, they will be removed from the corp, blacklisted amongst us and our allies, and we will generally warn any future corp who may take them in of their team-killy nature.
Even if the event in question already happened, please, tell us about it. It may help us isolate and track any potential offenders, so we can more closely observe and handle the problem.
And, again, people, please, PLEASE, observe all forum rules when posting in this thread. It may be a touchy subject, especially if you come here straight after a match, but I don't want you to get suspended because you were trying to do the right thing. |
Dr Debo Galaxy
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
293
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Posted - 2013.04.07 05:29:00 -
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Charizard Zakalwe wrote:More over, even if he did TK after these rules went into effect (And you certainly can't punish someone for doing something before it was against the rules), there is a clearly defined process for this thread.
You must file a claim, here, in this thread. This claim will contain the name of any and all Immobile Infantry members involved in your claim. You must provide a detailed account of what happened. You must provide a detailed account of what you lost. Fittings, vehicle fits, their costs and the total number you lost. A final Isk/Aur sum is required. While there are talks to pay out reparations if guilt and value can be adequately determined, we can't pay out for him destroying a free fit or a fit off all BPO's or something. You will then be given a case number. Keep track of this number. Ask any and all witness present to provide corroborating testimony. Give them your case number so we can keep things organized. I, and my investigatory squadron will then look into things on our end, as someone will probably be happily bragging about it later. Most investigator's identities will remain anonymous, as no one will is going to want to talk to a narc. Then, if guilt is established, they will be removed from the corp, blacklisted amongst us and our allies, and we will generally warn any future corp who may take them in of their team-killy nature.
Even if the event in question already happened, please, tell us about it. It may help us isolate and track any potential offenders, so we can more closely observe and handle the problem.
And, again, people, please, PLEASE, observe all forum rules when posting in this thread. It may be a touchy subject, especially if you come here straight after a match, but I don't want you to get suspended because you were trying to do the right thing.
This seems like a lot of work on the victims part for just some TKing. |
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Moronic Farce
Immobile Infantry
1
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Posted - 2013.04.07 06:20:00 -
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Not really, we can't kick people without evidence and its actually simple let me explain in less official language.
1- File a Report, self evident. 2- Tell us what happened, see 1. 3- What did you lose?, reparations aside if this establishes motive it can help us catch someone in the act. 4- Do you have any witnesses? give them your case number and point them to us. 5- We got this homie! Give us some time to look into it.
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steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
409
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Posted - 2013.04.07 11:20:00 -
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... is this just a cleaver way for you guys to find out who the best TKer among you Immobile Infantry always seemed like the troll loly types still this should be good :) |
The Medic Droid
The Phoenix Federation
22
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Posted - 2013.04.07 11:28:00 -
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Phew that was quite a subject title for the thread. :O
I had thought that most team kills were accidental, it's a little disheartening to hear that there are organized efforts to do this. I will be wary. |
ANON Illuminati
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
11
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Posted - 2013.04.07 11:34:00 -
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Kids doing little kid things. you guys are definetly kill on sight if i see you. |
Beld Errmon
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
563
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Posted - 2013.04.07 11:35:00 -
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hehe all the eve players are just looking at this thread grinning quietly in the corner, one day i'll have to issue a warning on drop bears. |
Philipp Achtel
Immobile Infantry
32
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Posted - 2013.04.07 12:47:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:sorry but TK'ing is the dumbest sh*t ever. Even worse than AFK farming, as they're not costing teams clones. "OH NO YOU'RE AFK!! WE'RE LOSING BECAUSE OF YOU!!! QQ"... but hey, TK is just fine cuz it's for lulz... Great logic in this forum
No, I think you're confused what QQing means. An example of QQing is coming onto the forums to cry to CCP for rules changes because the game doesn't work the way you think it should. Lots of people QQ about AFK and recommend timers or SP payout changes and so on.
TKers, on the other hand, take matters into their own hands, and do something about it. We're lucky that some people have the testicular fortitude to put their own resources, time, and reputation at risk to do what's right.
Not that I'd ever do that, of course.
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Sigberct Amni
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
40
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Posted - 2013.04.07 13:12:00 -
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Philipp Achtel wrote:Not that I'd ever do that, of course.
Me either. I mean, what with corporation reputation on the line. I would never risk that. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
420
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Posted - 2013.04.07 13:21:00 -
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I think everyone who complains about TK should try EVE out... Then pretend to be a miner, join a mining corporation, and blow up a hulk in a rifter or a thrasher :) |
Tien TheSecond
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
310
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Posted - 2013.04.07 15:01:00 -
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Laheon wrote:I think everyone who complains about TK should try EVE out... Then pretend to be a miner, join a mining corporation, and blow up a hulk in a rifter or a thrasher :) Or a Punisher, that's my favorite |
Charizard Zakalwe
Immobile Infantry
11
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Posted - 2013.04.07 17:09:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Kids doing little kid things. you guys are definetly kill on sight if i see you.
So are you going to shoot reds on sight? Because people already doing that. Or are you going to TK II members simply for existing? Seems counterproductive and hypocritical if you're against our members from some past TK'ing. |
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
142
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Posted - 2013.04.07 17:53:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:http://i.imgur.com/cMXnahe.gif
Really happy I have that one bookmarked.
Doessss this entertain youuuuu???? |
Alina Heart
DIOS EX.
50
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Posted - 2013.04.07 18:44:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:sorry but TK'ing is the dumbest sh*t ever. Even worse than AFK farming, as they're not costing teams clones. "OH NO YOU'RE AFK!! WE'RE LOSING BECAUSE OF YOU!!! QQ"... but hey, TK is just fine cuz it's for lulz... Great logic in this forum
Shut up, MCC farmers like you don't deserve an opinion on the matter.
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
567
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Posted - 2013.04.07 18:46:00 -
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Funny, today I used my tank to push a guy who was hiding behind the redline building on Ashland out in the open twice.
Sniper got him both times. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
94
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Posted - 2013.04.07 19:28:00 -
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sammus420 is know for bugusing, teamkilling, several orbital strikes in 30secs of game time and so on. |
Fuzzy Jello
Immobile Infantry
0
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Posted - 2013.04.07 19:49:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:sammus420 is know for bugusing, teamkilling, several orbital strikes in 30secs of game time and so on.
Do you have any proof to back up your claims? |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
94
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Posted - 2013.04.07 19:55:00 -
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Fuzzy Jello wrote:Jack McReady wrote:sammus420 is know for bugusing, teamkilling, several orbital strikes in 30secs of game time and so on. Do you have any proof to back up your claims? because I wait for someone to use bugs and record it instead of looking for some fun match, right? anyway I dont need any proof, reports to CCP staff will take care of such people sooner or later (there is a ticket system for a reason) |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
883
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Posted - 2013.04.07 21:33:00 -
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CCP won't do anything about it as it's not against to rules.
Hence me issuing the order to the corp to cease and desist any and all TK'ing activity's from this point on and me setting up an internal group to investigate this recent movement and start to issue reparations to other corps that may have been harmed by this activity.
It's important to me as the Monarch of Immobile Infantry and my Dukes internally that we maintain good relationships with our public and attempt to mend any damage that's been done by the recent uprising. |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
446
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Posted - 2013.04.07 21:42:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:CCP won't do anything about it as it's not against to rules.
Hence me issuing the order to the corp to cease and desist any and all TK'ing activity's from this point on and me setting up an internal group to investigate this recent movement and start to issue reparations to other corps that may have been harmed by this activity.
It's important to me as the Monarch of Immobile Infantry and my Dukes internally that we maintain good relationships with our public and attempt to mend any damage that's been done by the recent uprising.
You sir betray all that is a goon. SHAME ON YOU |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
426
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Posted - 2013.04.07 21:55:00 -
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Awesome troll thread lol |
VulvaOfTheYeast
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2013.04.07 22:02:00 -
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Charizard Zakalwe wrote: Fun: It's amusing to some people.
WHAT?!?
Playing a VIDEO GAME for FUN!
The NERVE! |
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Charizard Zakalwe
Immobile Infantry
16
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Posted - 2013.04.08 16:22:00 -
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VulvaOfTheYeast wrote:
WHAT?!?
Playing a VIDEO GAME for FUN!
The NERVE!
I don't want to be insulting, but you really need to work on your reading comprehension. Faux outrage or no, this just doesn't make sense. |
Cosorvin
DUST University Ivy League
71
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Posted - 2013.04.08 16:38:00 -
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G Sacred wrote:sammus420 wrote:The new orders against team killing didn't come out until after those little fun time jaunts occured. They won't kick me out for past infractions, but I can't go on LAV murder sprees anymore At least I can't and talk about it. You deserve a special title. So that every one knows as soon as you enter a match that you TK people. Can we get a security status in Dust or something? I guarantee this guy would be at least a -1.2. If we did get a security status, when it exceeds -1.0 we should be allowed to shoot on site. If one is TK by a person, we should receive Kill Rights just like in EVE.
I for one Applaud his TKING (other than sniper tking) People sitting in the MCC need to get tked some for making those of us who actually try to play and with game fail badly. |
Cosorvin
DUST University Ivy League
71
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Posted - 2013.04.08 16:49:00 -
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sammus420 wrote:The new orders against team killing didn't come out until after those little fun time jaunts occured. They won't kick me out for past infractions, but I can't go on LAV murder sprees anymore At least I can't and talk about it.
If they do kick you out though I could probably find a place for you here. |
Alcare Xavier Golden
DUST University Ivy League
139
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Posted - 2013.04.08 16:51:00 -
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TKing AFKs...so be it...people are going to do it and I don't have much of an opinion about it...
It's the matches where all the "player" is interested in is TKing that frustrate the kitten out of me...
I was actually in a match a few nights ago where there were 2-3 guys in LAVs TKing from the beginning of the match on...They actually CAUSED a good chunk of the team to begin AFKing the MCC because they were camping all the spawn points and below the MCC with their LAVs...people just gave up but didn't want to lose the WP end experience that had managed to gain...
Frankly, I just switched to a militia fit and practiced jumping into and out of ramapaging LAVs...would that be reverse griefing?
EDIT: As a Director of DUST University, we do NOT condone intentional team killing and may result in kicking from corp. |
Leither Yiltron
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
435
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Posted - 2013.04.09 05:27:00 -
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I understand that your process is lengthy and has its own subtleties, but will submission of this form be adequate for my report? I have so many to make.
http://i.imgur.com/fNU6Ice.jpg |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1962
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Posted - 2013.04.09 08:38:00 -
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I didn't realize ISK or KDR are so important these days. Or that blue berries are worth paying attention too.
If I think on it - how many times has a bad team mate got me killed? TKing is a great stress relief.
Good thread though, It's been a while since this much crap has come out of a corp. A goon corp against TKing, lolol. |
BAM HUSQVARNA
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
51
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Posted - 2013.04.09 11:41:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:http://i.imgur.com/cMXnahe.gif
Really happy I have that one bookmarked.
Really need to be able to embed GIFs to be honest. Having to click a link subtracts from any entertainment value. |
Charizard Zakalwe
Immobile Infantry
24
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Posted - 2013.04.10 14:27:00 -
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Leither Yiltron wrote:I understand that your process is lengthy and has its own subtleties, but will submission of this form be adequate for my report? I have so many to make. http://i.imgur.com/fNU6Ice.jpg Clearly not, as it's not the right form. You're unfamiliar with bureaucracy. |
ca ronic
Moffit Bros
1
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Posted - 2013.04.10 14:49:00 -
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If you think the team is better off with me in the heart of the action then you never saw me try and aim an AR. lol. Sometimes I go off to the red line and snipe, when I do the team is better off, its usually the only time I have a positive k/d ratio. Besides it gives the other teams red line snipers something to shoot at besides you. |
Charizard Zakalwe
Immobile Infantry
30
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Posted - 2013.04.12 14:33:00 -
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You're not helping anyone from the redline. |
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Salazar Skye-fire
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
87
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Posted - 2013.04.12 15:14:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:sorry but TK'ing is the dumbest **** ever. Even worse than AFK farming, as they're not costing teams clones. "OH NO YOU'RE AFK!! WE'RE LOSING BECAUSE OF YOU!!! QQ"... but hey, TK is just fine cuz it's for lulz... Great logic in this forum *please fully censor all profanity* - CCP Eterne
its even more enjoyable when you take yourself out with them to even throw the game further into a downward spiral. |
jwh49
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.04.12 16:37:00 -
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Well it happens alot i was in the fight and still got ran over by a player already named and 2 nights ago was trying to teach my wife the game and we were taken out by lavs as soon as we spawned several times she doesnt wanna play anymore because of it just because you choose to snipe doesnt mean you hide i.ve died more than i've killed so i try my best to help my team |
Charizard Zakalwe
Immobile Infantry
31
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Posted - 2013.04.12 19:22:00 -
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jwh49 wrote:Well it happens alot i was in the fight and still got ran over by a player already named and 2 nights ago was trying to teach my wife the game and we were taken out by lavs as soon as we spawned several times she doesnt wanna play anymore because of it just because you choose to snipe doesnt mean you hide i.ve died more than i've killed so i try my best to help my team
Who? When? There's a detailed list of specifics to file a claim. |
Marama Kai
Immobile Infantry
0
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Posted - 2013.04.14 22:09:00 -
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We are happy to announce that a report has lead to the discovery of a heinous misconduct of a Immobile Infantry member. We have looked at the evidence which was received with the report and we have delt with the member/s involved.
For his/her/their safety, we will not release the name/s, but they have been remove from I.I and the victim of this report will be refunded the full amount lost.
Thank you for reporting and I hope you do not see further I.I members committing such heinous acts again.
Please remember, if you do see an I.I member committing an act which you believe is not right, please report it! |
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