DUST Search - "Breach Of Contract Criminal Timer" for AWOXING

Maken Tosch wrote:

Temba Fusrodah wrote:

Because we have neither Concord nor a way to directly shoot an AWOX player I would like to propose a "Breach Of Contract Criminal Timer" for players who commit blue on blue homicide during a battle.

I propose a "Breach Of Contract Criminal Timer" of five (5) minutes be imposed during which time the criminal will be a flashing red target to both teams and his deaths will not count against the clone totals of his contracted team.

During the "Breach Of Contract Criminal Timer" the criminal shall not have access to any resources supplied by or transported to the battle by the contracting entity, this will include but not be limited to CRU's, vehicle deployment, and supply depots.

During the "Breach Of Contract Criminal Timer" if killed the criminal will respawn into the center of the battle unable to operate weapons or deploy vehicles until the "Breach Of Contract Criminal Timer" expires.

This proposal is consistent with both the risk & reward, as well as the consequences/ results of your personal actions, which are primary themes of the EVE universe.

Now let the gankers tears flow as they howl in outrage against having a consequence to their choices imposed.

I'm sorry, but I have to say that this is too strict. You might as well keep friendly fire off if you go so far as to disable their own weapons. In Eve Online, a high-sec suicide ganker is unable to warp out once they commit a highly-Concordable offense but they are still able to continue firing until Concord arrives.

Are you then going to demand that they can't use their own uplinks as well? Uplinks that they themselves purchased?

Again, this is waaaaaaaaaaaay way waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy overboard with punishment.


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Temba Fusrodah Ganksters Inc Drake Ashigaru 0	Posted - 2013.04.06 19:57:00 - [1] - Quote Because we have neither Concord nor a way to directly shoot an AWOX player I would like to propose a "Breach Of Contract Criminal Timer" for players who commit blue on blue homicide during a battle. I propose a "Breach Of Contract Criminal Timer" of five (5) minutes be imposed during which time the criminal will be a flashing red target to both teams and his deaths will not count against the clone totals of his contracted team. During the "Breach Of Contract Criminal Timer" the criminal shall not have access to any resources supplied by or transported to the battle by the contracting entity, this will include but not be limited to CRU's, vehicle deployment, and supply depots. During the "Breach Of Contract Criminal Timer" if killed the criminal will respawn into the center of the battle unable to operate weapons or deploy vehicles until the "Breach Of Contract Criminal Timer" expires. This proposal is consistent with both the risk & reward, as well as the consequences/ results of your personal actions, which are primary themes of the EVE universe. Now let the gankers tears flow as they howl in outrage against having a consequence to their choices imposed.
Temba Fusrodah Ganksters Inc Drake Ashigaru 0	Posted - 2013.04.06 20:10:00 - [2] - Quote gbghg wrote: But wherein the contract does it say "Thou shall not kill the bluedots"? The same place it says "Thou shall smite everything that moves" .... dude you gotta read the fine print!
Temba Fusrodah Ganksters Inc Drake Ashigaru 0	Posted - 2013.04.06 20:13:00 - [3] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: wow, I don't like when blueberries are being stupid, but geez, the butthurt here is off the charts. Butt hurt? LOL i love your ganking tears! A "Criminal timer" is a part of the EVE experience .... perhaps you fear the butt hurt coming to you? lol your whining has made this thread worthwhile thanks!
Temba Fusrodah Ganksters Inc Drake Ashigaru 1	Posted - 2013.04.06 20:23:00 - [4] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: How can it be proven it was my fault when you were run over by my LAV- which I was in the passenger seat of, not driving. Here let me tell you a story .... Once upon a time you are in a car with a drunk driver, he runs over a traffic cop and kills him in full view of his partner. He is arrested and punished for his criminal actions, you get to walk home because no one is so stupid as to charge a passenger for being responsible for the driver's poor choice. The end
Temba Fusrodah Ganksters Inc Drake Ashigaru 1	Posted - 2013.04.06 20:25:00 - [5] - Quote gbghg wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: How can it be proven it was my fault when you were run over by my LAV- which I was in the passenger seat of, not driving. LMAO Well there might be someone so stupid as this post indicates but fortunately he will not be making that decision.
Temba Fusrodah Ganksters Inc Drake Ashigaru 1	Posted - 2013.04.06 20:35:00 - [6] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Temba Fusrodah wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: wow, I don't like when blueberries are being stupid, but geez, the butthurt here is off the charts. Butt hurt? LOL i love your ganking tears! A "Criminal timer" is a part of the EVE experience .... perhaps you fear the butt hurt coming to you? lol your whining has made this thread worthwhile thanks! I don't grief blueberries, I don't gank, I play "fair"(at least with my team, the other team can eat a fat veined male chicken for all I care) but hey, keep on being butthurt and calling everyone else wrong for having fun. I have called no one else wrong for playing the game the way they want to .... One of the things I like about the EVE universe is the fact that your individual choices have permanent results and consequences. My proposal is completely in line with EVE online play established for about a decade now. If you don't like criminal timers you are going to have real trouble with wardecs! .... Welcome to the EVE universe!
Temba Fusrodah Ganksters Inc Drake Ashigaru 1	Posted - 2013.04.06 20:53:00 - [7] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Temba Fusrodah wrote: Because we have neither Concord nor a way to directly shoot an AWOX player I would like to propose a "Breach Of Contract Criminal Timer" for players who commit blue on blue homicide during a battle. I propose a "Breach Of Contract Criminal Timer" of five (5) minutes be imposed during which time the criminal will be a flashing red target to both teams and his deaths will not count against the clone totals of his contracted team. During the "Breach Of Contract Criminal Timer" the criminal shall not have access to any resources supplied by or transported to the battle by the contracting entity, this will include but not be limited to CRU's, vehicle deployment, and supply depots. During the "Breach Of Contract Criminal Timer" if killed the criminal will respawn into the center of the battle unable to operate weapons or deploy vehicles until the "Breach Of Contract Criminal Timer" expires. This proposal is consistent with both the risk & reward, as well as the consequences/ results of your personal actions, which are primary themes of the EVE universe. Now let the gankers tears flow as they howl in outrage against having a consequence to their choices imposed. I'm sorry, but I have to say that this is too strict. You might as well keep friendly fire off if you go so far as to disable their own weapons. In Eve Online, a high-sec suicide ganker is unable to warp out once they commit a highly-Concordable offense but they are still able to continue firing until Concord arrives. Are you then going to demand that they can't use their own uplinks as well? Uplinks that they themselves purchased? Again, this is waaaaaaaaaaaay way waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy overboard with punishment. Thanks for sharing a legitimate concern .... if you had read a bit closer you would have noted that i said after he respawns he has no additional access until the timer runs out. Yes it is your equipment but the contractor is transporting it for you, why would he continue to help you thwart his goals? A little common sense here please. I have proposed this and of course I'd like to read any reasonable adjustments to balance the game without outright banning of a game style others find enjoyable, however having no consequence is just plain dumb.
Temba Fusrodah Ganksters Inc Drake Ashigaru 1	Posted - 2013.04.07 01:37:00 - [8] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Am I the only one who thinks it is hilarious that someone from "Ganksters Inc" is crying about "the gankers"? Temba Fusrodah wrote: Now let the gankers tears flow as they howl in outrage against having a consequence to their choices imposed. lol Perhaps you should have read a little more ....I have no problem with ganking ... as I said look at the name of my corp .... however ganking without consequences opens the door for dishonorable immature children to role play as if they had the courage or skills to be a real Ganker.