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Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 36	Posted - 2013.04.05 02:30:00 - [1] - Quote With no vehicles at all? Thoughts?
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 183	Posted - 2013.04.05 03:41:00 - [2] - Quote No. Excluding things is not a feature.
Xender17 Oblivion S.G.X 16	Posted - 2013.04.05 04:57:00 - [3] - Quote +1. keep my K/D ratio and gain isk.... all based off skill.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 10	Posted - 2013.04.05 07:33:00 - [4] - Quote +1. Excluding things doesn't reeally fit in with dust, but it'd be nice.
Meeko Fent Kinsho Swords Caldari State 19	Posted - 2013.04.06 03:57:00 - [5] - Quote This could be a form of VR training, but making a brand new GM out of it seems stupid
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 17	Posted - 2013.04.06 04:40:00 - [6] - Quote Ambush OMS is already 80% more vehicle free than regular Ambush. Also, militia only games would keep people from wanting to progress. Kind of takes the point out of the game
Jathniel G I A N T 132	Posted - 2013.04.06 06:36:00 - [7] - Quote OP don't stress about the folks that go to public matches pushing proto gear all the time... You don't need a game mode to get away from them. Just go out of your way to kill them. Apparently, they got something to prove... to themselves I guess. Shoot one of them, ANY of them, in the head with a MLT-AR, kill them, and you'll make them rage and feel stupid. "I got killed by a militia assault rifle! it needs to get NERRRRRRRFED!!!" Kill anyone running proto like 3 or 4 times, and he's already losing money. Proto-stomping is boring and old, and if you happen to get killed in a public match because you ran it, you then need to spend the next couple matches or so earning your cash back. Better yet, headshot a proto-stomper with a militia sniper rifle, they love that. ^.~
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 37	Posted - 2013.04.08 20:49:00 - [8] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: No. Excluding things is not a feature. So you need at least advanced level gear to beat people that are just starting to play the game?
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. 459	Posted - 2013.04.08 20:56:00 - [9] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Ambush OMS is already 80% more vehicle free than regular Ambush. Also, militia only games would keep people from wanting to progress. Kind of takes the point out of the game Pauses Tombraider: And what is the point?? Right now its newberries going ZERO and 15 deaths to folks running all proto. If this goes on then the playerbase will never expand and it gets very boring killing the same tags game after game after game after ....yawn. Too bored with things as they are to log in today to Dust. Maybe on Wednesday or Thursday?? Back to playing Tombraider.
Coleman Gray GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 174	Posted - 2013.04.08 20:59:00 - [10] - Quote Jathniel wrote: OP don't stress about the folks that go to public matches pushing proto gear all the time... You don't need a game mode to get away from them. Just go out of your way to kill them. Apparently, they got something to prove... to themselves I guess. Shoot one of them, ANY of them, in the head with a MLT-AR, kill them, and you'll make them rage and feel stupid. "I got killed by a militia assault rifle! it needs to get NERRRRRRRFED!!!" Kill anyone running proto like 3 or 4 times, and he's already losing money. Proto-stomping is boring and old, and if you happen to get killed in a public match because you ran it, you then need to spend the next couple matches or so earning your cash back. Better yet, headshot a proto-stomper with a militia sniper rifle, they love that. ^.~ I use forge guns to do it, the dire sentinel class has proven fanstastic for dealing with proto's

ShwerShwerShwer The Marching Mercs 11	Posted - 2013.04.08 23:14:00 - [11] - Quote Jathniel wrote: OP don't stress about the folks that go to public matches pushing proto gear all the time... You don't need a game mode to get away from them. Just go out of your way to kill them. Apparently, they got something to prove... to themselves I guess. Shoot one of them, ANY of them, in the head with a MLT-AR, kill them, and you'll make them rage and feel stupid. "I got killed by a militia assault rifle! it needs to get NERRRRRRRFED!!!" Kill anyone running proto like 3 or 4 times, and he's already losing money. Proto-stomping is boring and old, and if you happen to get killed in a public match because you ran it, you then need to spend the next couple matches or so earning your cash back. Better yet, headshot a proto-stomper with a militia sniper rifle, they love that. ^.~ Good to know I'm not the only one who does this
Xender17 Oblivion S.G.X 18	Posted - 2013.04.08 23:19:00 - [12] - Quote Wait... No... You would have to have some risk to gain isk.
Asaaritus Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.04.09 07:14:00 - [13] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Wait... No... You would have to have some risk to gain isk. Must suck having to play one game to buy an entire proto fit back after dying.
KatanaPT Tech Guard 29	Posted - 2013.04.09 09:12:00 - [14] - Quote +1 Ambush really needs a overhaul or more game modes with a good matchmaking... currently is a stomping fest. Just ask any new guy playing.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2412	Posted - 2013.04.09 09:40:00 - [15] - Quote SP-based matchmaking, with a cap where anything above 7 million (just a random number pulled from a kitten's top hat) stops counting. So if you have 120 million SP, the game will match you with other players in the 7 million+ bracket. Also, individual rewards from battle should be tied to the value of gear the enemy is losing, so knowingly going into battle against Militia gear with Prototype gear will ALWAYS be a losing proposition when you're dying even once.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc 146	Posted - 2013.04.09 11:48:00 - [16] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Also, individual rewards from battle should be tied to the value of gear the enemy is losing, so knowingly going into battle against Militia gear with Prototype gear will ALWAYS be a losing proposition when you're dying even once. I'm pretty sure this is actually how it is, I could be wrong. I've see alot of good ideas about helping blueberries. So far the ones I like the best are No Proto in Pub matches and like the under 1M SP training ground where super green players get a buffer, but its a small one.
Geth Massredux Arrogance. EoN. 130	Posted - 2013.04.09 13:28:00 - [17] - Quote Make it worth some money, how about standard gear and below
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 1043	Posted - 2013.04.09 16:29:00 - [18] - Quote Or, an adv lvl or higher game mode. Let's start earning some real ISK
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 38	Posted - 2013.04.09 23:05:00 - [19] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Or, an adv lvl or higher game mode. Let's start earning some real ISK You would say something like that.
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 38	Posted - 2013.04.09 23:06:00 - [20] - Quote Geth Massredux wrote: Make it worth some money, how about standard gear and below You... can... do... skirmish... instead of, again, stomping on those that are just getting a feel for the game.

Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 39	Posted - 2013.04.10 21:51:00 - [21] - Quote Why are so few supporting this? At the least it's a great idea for those just getting the game.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative 109	Posted - 2013.04.10 21:57:00 - [22] - Quote because you punishing AV people and drivers/pilots for their skill choices which is bad..
Severus Smith L.O.T.I.S. 210	Posted - 2013.04.10 22:11:00 - [23] - Quote This needs to happen. I've had several friends and family members try out DUST, get facestomped by Proto players in all their matches then quit saying the game just isn't fun. That's 5 customers you lost CCP. Either: A. Militia / Standard limit. B: Match type that only allows you to fit up to a combined meta level of 10 across all your gear. - This is new player friendly. - Still allows gear progression. - Players can try out new fits in a more balanced setting. - Helps with player retention.
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 220	Posted - 2013.04.10 22:25:00 - [24] - Quote ladwar wrote: because you punishing AV people and drivers/pilots for their skill choices which is bad.. Well, it is sort of punishing everyone for their skill choices.
Lynn Beck Forsaken Legion-0 3	Posted - 2013.04.10 23:45:00 - [25] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Geth Massredux wrote: Make it worth some money, how about standard gear and below You... can... do... skirmish... instead of, again, stomping on those that are just getting a feel for the game. But think about it, a 15 minute ambush, versus a 30+ minute skirmish Ambush: Money earned-140-230K Skirmish:Money earned 230-320K Why waste double the time for an increase of 90K isk?
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 39	Posted - 2013.04.11 03:39:00 - [26] - Quote ladwar wrote: because you punishing AV people and drivers/pilots for their skill choices which is bad.. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... they could choose not to go in it?
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 39	Posted - 2013.04.11 03:40:00 - [27] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Geth Massredux wrote: Make it worth some money, how about standard gear and below You... can... do... skirmish... instead of, again, stomping on those that are just getting a feel for the game. But think about it, a 15 minute ambush, versus a 30+ minute skirmish Ambush: Money earned-140-230K Skirmish:Money earned 230-320K Why waste double the time for an increase of 90K isk? Because, as has been said, it's to help new players, not let those with 7mil + SP stomp on those people trying to get the hang of it. Why do you keep missing that point? I never said replace the Ambush we have now with this, either. Do you REALLY need proto to get kills at all?
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 39	Posted - 2013.04.11 03:41:00 - [28] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: ladwar wrote: because you punishing AV people and drivers/pilots for their skill choices which is bad.. Well, it is sort of punishing everyone for their skill choices. Yeah, like those that have put skills into tanks and heavy suits/forge/HMG.
Charlotte O'Dell Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 106	Posted - 2013.04.11 09:19:00 - [29] - Quote hm....militia gear only as well as everyone, while in battle, has ZERO skills pts in anything. This was, noobs can learn to playand gain SP. The vets, not wanting to give up their proto advantage, would stay out, thus, ending pub stomps of SUPER SCRUBS and making less new players rage quit.
Charlotte O'Dell Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 106	Posted - 2013.04.11 09:20:00 - [30] - Quote Severus Smith wrote: This needs to happen. I've had several friends and family members try out DUST, get facestomped by Proto players in all their matches then quit saying the game just isn't fun. That's 5 customers you lost CCP. Either: A. Militia / Standard limit. B: Match type that only allows you to fit up to a combined meta level of 10 across all your gear. - This is new player friendly. - Still allows gear progression. - Players can try out new fits in a more balanced setting. - Helps with player retention. Brilliant...except I can still bring in a Sagaris with good shields and a crappy gun



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