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Ops Fox
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.04 01:13:00 -
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I originally posted this a couple of months and a build or two ago so i figure its time to remind people and CCP about my idea.
We all know that there are going to be quite a few racial weapons for each faction of dust based off what the traditionally use. Quite a few weapon types will probably be exclusive to a specific faction, don't expect to see gallante version of laser rifles, but there will probably be some cross over. Now one thing I'm looking forward to are Caldari weapons like the current ones we got now, the forge, sniper, swarm and so on, what I'm hoping for though is a Caldari Rail gun Assault rilfe.
so here goes.
A Caldari Railgun AR should be a medium to long range weapon that has to build up a charge before it actually fires, kind of like the spooling time for a chain gun or the HMG, Once it actually starts firing it should be able to exceed a normal AR DPS. The charging would be similar to charging a forge gun or Tank Railgun and the effects would be a equally devastating, a lot of damage potential but a smaller margin of error. The Rail ARs different version(assault, breach etc.) would decide how long it must charge for and whether or not it fires in burst.
the High damage output would make this a very favorable gun from a stats perspective, but when you considered the charge it acts as a counter balance to the potential power.
---points
the gun when its firing would be able to kill someone quicker than a normal AR
It would however have to charge up before it can fire its mag.
----variations
Standard: a reasonable charge time, fires the moments the charge is built up, fires until finger is let off trigger or mag empties. high Rof Average bullet damage should still have higher DPS.
[tab][/tab] breach: same as standard only swaping Rof and bullet damage
Burst: short charge time, can hold charge, only fires 6 shots at a time
Tactical: Long charge time, can hold a charge.
original dead thread https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=44509&find=unread |
Jathniel
G I A N T
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Posted - 2013.04.04 01:17:00 -
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Just another annoying op AR... Oh well, why not. Throw it in.
+1 |
slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.04.04 01:19:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:Just another annoying op AR... Oh well, why not. Throw it in.
+1
If you don't like it being called ar, why not call it, "The mini rail". |
Jathniel
G I A N T
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Posted - 2013.04.04 01:52:00 -
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I'd prefer "automatic rail rifle".
Or maybe, "serial railgun" (since rounds are fired in series.) Or even, "Burst Sniper Rifle" that would be nice.
(Just hate ARs. Rarely before have I ever seen something so unreasonably balanced, be defended tooth-and-nail. I really want some utility weapon options. I'm tired of the AR being the "main" weapon, like everything else HAS to compliment IT, and I have high hopes for the scrambler rifle. I simply want to use general/utility weapon that beats the AR at its own game, that IS NOT an AR. I absolutely hate the player bravado that accompanies its noob-friendly, ease-of-use.) |
slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.04.04 02:00:00 -
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It definatly is OP, but I think other weapons should be buffed and the AR should stay the same. |
Jathniel
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Posted - 2013.04.04 03:12:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:It definatly is OP, but I think other weapons should be buffed and the AR should stay the same.
*sigh*
You may have a remedy there.
But I'm burnt out with the whole argument.
May 6, we'll see if CCP has gotten anything done.
So as not to hijack the OP's thread, I gave the +1.
OP, I think your weapon idea sounds cool. It gives me the impression that the Burst HMG does though. (That thing is lethal.)
I think its possible that this weapon could very well supplant the BHMG, in form and function if not balanced properly. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
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Posted - 2013.04.04 03:46:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:I'd prefer "automatic rail rifle".
Or maybe, "serial railgun" (since rounds are fired in series.) Or even, "Burst Sniper Rifle" that would be nice.
An Automatic Rail Rifle would be more a more accurate term. I was thinking Auto Rail Battle Rifle since range and projectile damage have more in common with a machine rifle like a BAR than actual assault rifles.
Not that it really matters in our pixillated universe.
It's an interesting idea. My only two isk is make it a different category from assault rifles. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.04 04:26:00 -
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Railgun AR:
Gauss rifle http://www.playscope.com/Wskins/skin2011/images/all_medias/2012/dust514/galeries/screens5/dust514_screens5_0002.jpg
I recommend suggesting a variant of the gauss rifle that behaves like what you describe. |
DustMercsBlog
Galactic News Network
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Posted - 2013.04.04 14:56:00 -
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+1 very good idea. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2013.04.04 15:04:00 -
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I don't think this is an AR, This seems like a Minmatar version of a Lazer Rifle. Its to slow to be a AR. However there is the HMG, I guess there could be a MG line, LR seems to fill that role fairly well, of course Lazers are for Amarr, so racial based goes without saying |
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WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.04 18:01:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:
This is what I was going to say. The Caldari Gauss Rifle is basically an automatic railgun. |
Ops Fox
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.09 01:37:00 -
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Its just a name the important part is the the effect. A light weapon version of a Railgun turret or forge gun gear for gunning down infantry. I think I would prefer this to a generic caldari AR with a railgun flavor, however i do like the name "Auto Rail Battle Rifle "
that is a much more accurate name for it. |
Ulysses Knapse
Nuevo Atlas Corporation
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Posted - 2013.04.09 21:36:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote:Its just a name the important part is the the effect. A light weapon version of a Railgun turret gear for gunning down infantry. bascially it has the charging up/spool time of a Railgun turret/forge but it fires a high DPS spray more suited to killing infantry. I think I would prefer this to a generic caldari AR with a railgun flavor, however i do like the name "Auto Rail Battle Rifle "
that is a much more accurate name for it.
You might be interested in this.
Either way, Auto Rail Battle Rifle? It's not a battle rifle if it's automatic, it's a machine gun.
Also, no, the Gauss Rifle should just be an Assault Rifle with less DPS and more effective range. |
Dagger-Two
Moira.
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2013.04.10 00:01:00 -
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I've always pictured a semi-automatic rail-based battle rifle as a very Gallentean weapon, kindof a medium range precision rifle to complement the short range plasma rifle.
The caldari on the other hand would have the short to medium range fully-automatic Gauss rifle, complemented by long-range full-sized rail rifles like the current sniper rifle.
Basically, a high(er) damage, semi-auto Rail Carbine (very battle-rifle type of feel) with a low-ish mag capacity (20-30) and moderate kick, with the Gauss rifle being full-auto, similar range, higher mag capacity (50-60), but damage slightly lower than that of the plasma rifle.
Something like that would definitely get my +1 |
Dagger-Two
Moira.
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2013.04.10 00:05:00 -
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Though, lets face it, in EVE-reality, the Gallente make their own rail-based sniper rifles too, and the Caldari arm their troops with their own types of plasma rifles and rail-carbines. |
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