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Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.04.03 23:22:00 -
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So I was looking at the battle for Caldari Prime
The S.A.R. takes one shot at a Proto suit that has 202 shields., the S.A.R Clip goes from 43 to 42.
His shields go from 202 to 84. That is 118 damage to shields. That is one charged shot.
The next shot from the S.A.R. clip goes from 42 to 41. His shields drop from 84 to 8, that is 76 damage per shot to shields.
I am assuming the first shot was a charged single fire-shot, then he switched to autofire. So the S.A.R. charged shot is 118 to shields, and auto-fire is 76 to shields. I sense tears in the future. |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.03 23:25:00 -
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A charge shot should require more ammo to use. |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
746
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Posted - 2013.04.03 23:34:00 -
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Well that wouldn't be "Charging a shot"
The S.A.R is essentialy a sniper/ar hybrid. |
BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.04.03 23:39:00 -
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im pretty sure the "charged" shot was a single shot and a head shot while the other was a body shot. the charged shot takes a lot of ammo shown in clip. looks like 3 charged shots per clip. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
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Posted - 2013.04.03 23:43:00 -
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Bear in mind two things:
1. Amarr weapons are generally very effective against shields.
2. That was a prototype variant of the scrambler rifle - 'Imperial Scrambler Rifle' in much the same way as we have the 'Duvolle Assault Rifle'.
I'm looking forward to the scrambler rifle though! |
Severance Pay
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
85
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Posted - 2013.04.03 23:47:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:So I was looking at the battle for Caldari PrimeThe S.A.R. takes one shot at a Proto suit that has 202 shields., the S.A.R Clip goes from 43 to 42. His shields go from 202 to 84. That is 118 damage to shields. That is one charged shot. The next shot from the S.A.R. clip goes from 42 to 41. His shields drop from 84 to 8, that is 76 damage per shot to shields. I am assuming the first shot was a charged single fire-shot, then he switched to autofire. So the S.A.R. charged shot is 118 to shields, and auto-fire is 76 to shields. I sense tears in the future.
From what I know of scrambler pisto. Is that it does 20% bonus dmg to shields, with base dmg of 72. We are making 3 assumptions with the AR.
1. They get the same bonus to shields.
2. They are same base dmg as pistol.
3. They have no dmg modifier against armor. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Daringly Inserting Large Dangerous Objects
79
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Posted - 2013.04.04 00:16:00 -
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im still standing by this has a base damage of ~40 looking closers 42 is a possible amount for a base number which would still give 84. i never seen a charged shot that went from 202 to 84. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.04.04 00:31:00 -
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Actually, there hasn't been any confirmation yet on whether or not the Scrambler Rifle has two functions on the exact same gun. The videos may show it, but you see both functions on two separate scenes. On top of that, if you pay attention to the video featuring the rifle, the kill feed shows two different variants of the Scrambler Rifle. An Imperial one and an Assault one if I remember correctly. Even though the video showed the action through the eyes of only one merc in particular, who is to say that the merc didn't swap one fitting for the other in between scenes?
I'm not saying that the Scrambler Rifle doesn't have a dual function (which looks awesome), I'm just saying that the information regarding the weapon is not all that clear and we have yet to get definitive confirmation from CCP on the matter. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Daringly Inserting Large Dangerous Objects
79
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Posted - 2013.04.04 00:44:00 -
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yup carthum assault scambler rifle fielded by the red team |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
795
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Posted - 2013.04.04 01:25:00 -
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I'm sorry but this is BS, I looked through those two clips multiple times. He only hit a person ONCE, and even then the video cut to eve before the data could show. Did you see that guy's aiming as well? He was completely missing....on purpose. They missed and edited to make sure we couldn't figure this stuff out. |
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Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
746
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Posted - 2013.04.04 02:47:00 -
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ladwar wrote:im still standing by this has a base damage of ~40 looking, 42 is a possible amount for a base number which would still give 84 on shields. i never seen a charged shot that went from 202 to 84.
Check out the video, at 2:04 pause it and move forward with the arrow key frame by frame. Look at bullet 43 to 42 it drops his shields from 202 to 84. First shot doing 118 to shields.
His next bullet 42 to 41 actually depletes his remaining shields 84 to 0 and chews into his armor damaging it from 130 to 112.
So the second shot did 102 damage.... |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1893
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Posted - 2013.04.04 04:10:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:ladwar wrote:im still standing by this has a base damage of ~40 looking, 42 is a possible amount for a base number which would still give 84 on shields. i never seen a charged shot that went from 202 to 84. Check out the video, at 2:04 pause it and move forward with the arrow key frame by frame. Look at bullet 43 to 42 it drops his shields from 202 to 84. First shot doing 118 to shields. His next bullet 42 to 41 actually depletes his remaining shields 84 to 0 and chews into his armor damaging it from 130 to 112. So the second shot did 102 damage....
Is this accounting for the damage type (armor vs shield damage)? |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Daringly Inserting Large Dangerous Objects
79
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Posted - 2013.04.04 04:39:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:ladwar wrote:im still standing by this has a base damage of ~40 looking, 42 is a possible amount for a base number which would still give 84 on shields. i never seen a charged shot that went from 202 to 84. Check out the video, at 2:04 pause it and move forward with the arrow key frame by frame. Look at bullet 43 to 42 it drops his shields from 202 to 84. First shot doing 118 to shields. His next bullet 42 to 41 actually depletes his remaining shields 84 to 0 and chews into his armor damaging it from 130 to 112. So the second shot did 102 damage.... Is this accounting for the damage type (armor vs shield damage)?
no it doesn't account for the switch to armor from shields, the game only figures for one which then applies damage. as for it doing 102 that is right. which would put it around 55~ damage(using 2 damage mods to figure damage) base which would scream nerf as soon as it comes out as thats way more then the AR or better have like nothing for range.
duvolle tactical assault rifle(49.4) doesn't even hit that hard |
rebecca watson
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
46
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Posted - 2013.04.05 01:45:00 -
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I love this weapon already and look forward to it being nerfed/broke and my heart crushed =/ |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Daringly Inserting Large Dangerous Objects
83
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Posted - 2013.04.05 02:20:00 -
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rebecca watson wrote:I love this weapon already and look forward to it being nerfed/broke and my heart crushed =/
its most likely being nerfed already |
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