Currently, anything a Scout suit does, an Assault suit does better. So, what can be done to improve it?

I propose a 10% increase to base speed, and 15-20% increase to sprint speed.

Tarquin Markel

This entire thread can be responded to with this post.

*slowclap*

Icy TIG3R wrote:
That's the thing, people who haven't advanced into them think they're fine, but it's ridiculously easy to kill a Scout suit. I may spec into something else, but I still want Scout's fixed. At the moment, a militia AR can kill me easily in about 5-6 seconds if I stand still, and I'm running complex shields.

After extensive play testing (and boy do I mean extensive) I have come to the following conclusions.

The scout suit needs:

GÇó More CPU (it is ridiculously under powered in this area)

GÇó a dedicated "electronics/biotics" high and low slot (e.g. The scout type-I would have one high slot plus one dedicated high slot that can only be used for electronics/biotics, as well as, two low slots with another dedicated low slot). This is so one can make a scout that can survive more than a three-tenths-of-a-second burst from any weapon or ohk by a massdriver (at the moment, electronics and biotics on a scout is simply impractical, and considering that that is what they are supposed to be designed for, I would say that this has been a utter FAIL). Of course, CPU/PG would further have to be increased to reflect this design.

GÇó Strafe/movement speeds need to be set back to where they were pre nerf.

GÇó Dropsuit specific Cloaking (when it comes) should be exclusive to scouts or should have severe drawbacks when used with other suit classes. Also one should be able to move while clocked in a scout suit. Perhaps this could be one of the drawbacks: scouts can move while cloaked, where as, all other suits cannot.

That is all.

I just think that you are comfortably enjoying going pretty much unchallenged on the battle field in your nice cozy assault suit. And that is what I will continue to think until you offer up some more credible solutions on this matter, instead of the junk you just made me sift through.

Not interested in what your personal opinions of Rei are. What I am interested in is making the scout role live up to its name. To have a suit class capable of performing the recon roll with out dying every time someone sees it. You people are acting as though my suggestions are outlandish. This is absolutely absurd.

And that is what my post sounded like to you, hunh (your ego is astounding). I couldn't have possibly been that I was making legitimate complaints. Ok then, let's do some math:

Currently this is how I run a recon fit b-series scout suit:

2x complex shield extenders
1x enhanced armor plate
1x basic armor repair

1x exile assault rifle (ah you thought I only used the SMG didn't you, shows how little you really know about me)
1x AV grenades
1x remote explosives
1x gauged nanohive

Now, why do I run this fit? Because, when I get to a point I am reckoning I am usually utterly alone, with the rest of my squad either a good distance behind me or moping up from our last engagement. I know that I will be engaging multiple hostiles with superior survivability, and most likely I will have to engage multiple hostiles to initiate taking control of a "situation" (I am of course talking about playing a skirmish here).

And I perform this roll very well.

Now under these circumstances should I be effing around with stealth mods trying to sneak up on people like some stupid jack@$$ or should I be using the speed inherent to the scout plus whatever survivability I can squeeze out of the suit.

I know that you like to play ambush a lot Rei, but the tactics that are viable in an ambush are not going to be reflective of the tactics that are going to be necessary to maintain control of districts when planetary conquest arrives.

now let's take a look at this pathetic scout that Garrett suggested I use for this roll

87 shield
169 armor

GT 255

Now what you're telling me is that I am supposed to engage multiple hostiles, guarding an objective, how are looking ever direction they possible can trying desperately find any threats in the area in order to ensure their own survival, and I am supposed to do all of this while all of those hostiles out class me in survivability by nearly a multiple of three, and all because I've got some dampening mods and I happen to be able to see where they are on my scope. Ridiculous.

The reason I run what I run is because it work. It doesn't work as well as it should but it works a hell of a lot better than the ridiculousness you guys are suggesting.

So this brings me to the point were we need to ask a couple of fundamental question:

1. Who would be stupid enough to actually use scan and dampening mods on a scout?

2. So if scanning and dampening is not for scouts then who are they for?

@ Rei:

Your post sums up my entire point: there is no viable recon fitting available to scouts.

what the hell am I suposed to do when I get to the recon point? Sit there and jerk it while the enemy hack the objective? Watch the enemy finish steam rolling the friendlies? Let them simply push through to a stratigic point? Recon is about more than just giving intel and any Army Ranger would be glad to tell you that. They don't give those guys guns for nothing you know.

{edit>>> I do what I can until reinforcements arive. And my 5% reduction in speed still puts me well above the speed of any assault out there especially when you consider that almost every assault is wearing at least one plate anyway. It does a hell of a lot better than what you are suggesting and that is experience talking.

And what the hell are you doing runing around in a vk with that kind of sh!t EHP? That sh!t would never fly in a corp battle against any one worth their salt

Hay some body's got to escort the fat boy and the medic them things don't escort themselves across the battle field you know.

And I never stick around after we break the enemy line. That's what the fat boy is for.

See this is where you're wrong. A Scout doesn't have that much speed in any way to manage to get to objectives substantially faster than an Assault.