DUST Search - What can be done to "fix" the Scout suit?

Rei Shepard wrote:

Ok, lets assume they fix the scout the way you like it,

You arrive at the coordinates before your team like in your post and encounter multiple assaults, you then proceed with engaging them like you say, you dont twiddle thumbs while waiting for backup and kill them all...

30s later the assaults get there, with ....nothing to assault, you again use your speed to get to another place on the map ahead of your assault team mates, they arrive again with the enemy team mobbed up and packaged ready for transit.

But wait the Assault pulls out a gun! Did he see an enemy you did not see ???

Nah.... The assault pulls out his barcode register gun and prints our a barcode for on the Crate to ship them to a biomass vat because your suits sensors are better then theirs so its impossible to have missed any....

You then tell your squadmates to rendezvous at Delta, and while giving them a handshake you make make sure to tell them to make sure theres enough rounds left in those barcode guns!

Cant have my shipment of clones not covered for freight next day delivery!

Anything wrong here, where does the Assault come in, like doing his job assaulting??


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Icy TIG3R Universal Allies Inc. 14	Posted - 2013.04.02 22:27:00 - [1] - Quote Currently, anything a Scout suit does, an Assault suit does better. So, what can be done to improve it? I propose a 10% increase to base speed, and 15-20% increase to sprint speed.
Icy TIG3R Universal Allies Inc. 15	Posted - 2013.04.02 23:14:00 - [2] - Quote That's the thing, people who haven't advanced into them think they're fine, but it's ridiculously easy to kill a Scout suit. I may spec into something else, but I still want Scout's fixed. At the moment, a militia AR can kill me easily in about 5-6 seconds if I stand still, and I'm running complex shields.
Icy TIG3R Universal Allies Inc. 16	Posted - 2013.04.03 02:05:00 - [3] - Quote Berserker007 wrote: Icy TIG3R wrote: That's the thing, people who haven't advanced into them think they're fine, but it's ridiculously easy to kill a Scout suit. I may spec into something else, but I still want Scout's fixed. At the moment, a militia AR can kill me easily in about 5-6 seconds if I stand still, and I'm running complex shields. well that is somewhat the point. The idea of the scout was RECON . RECON usually long range away giving call outs; not on the front line. For those running AR's & such; they will be weaker health wise, yet they are faster, better strafing/more maneuverable , and lower signature. As someone else said, they will be strengthened by use of active scanners for upfront recon, and use the the cloak module. I'd say the only thing needed atm for scouts is more CPU/PG ; other then that they are being as intended. Plus with the new skill system of advanced suits getting bonuses (probably health), you will have more survivability. I thought Scout meant scouting ahead of the group (speed bonus), being quick, getting a couple kills, then getting out for the big guns. It can be argued that Scouts are stealthy, except they're not, they stand out as a free kill 70% of the time.
Icy TIG3R Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 73	Posted - 2013.04.09 04:45:00 - [4] - Quote I swear, some of the posts in this thread are completely f***** r***. SCOUTS HAVE NO STEALTH BONUS. IF SOMEONE LOOKS UP. THEY SEE ME. AND THEN, SAID SCOUT IS DEAD IN 2 SECONDS. Hit detection is not my f**** problem. That was one incident in Moejoe's video, and hit detection is not game mechanics. Look around in a match once, how many Assaults, Logos, and Heavy's do you see? Yet there's only 1-2 Scouts, 50% of the time snipers. Do snipers need speed? F* no. If you question my credebility, next time I'm in a game with you, I'll pull out my Scout, I'll probably do well, but I can easily double my WP in an Assault suit. Shields? Better on Assault. Armor? Better on Assault. A slight speed boost, nearly useless when bullets can hit you around cover. Lower Scan? Useless, as soon as you walk into someone's fov, you're *******. Therefore, Scouts require a buff. Just making the cloak exclusive to Scout would help, but a lot of you bitches want it along with a tanked suit with damage mods.
Icy TIG3R Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 73	Posted - 2013.04.09 04:48:00 - [5] - Quote What I'm trying to say is... Stop making things so goddamn useless. We saw it with tactical rifles, we see it with drop ships, it's completely clear with Nova Knives, (but idiots want those to "remain niche" and completely garbage, Maken is the only one to make good use at times), and dozens of other modules, and equipment. My question is why? We don't need everyone to be Assault AR. Dust was and should be about diverse roles. So let's get back to where it was.
Icy TIG3R Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 78	Posted - 2013.04.11 19:16:00 - [6] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Ok, lets assume they fix the scout the way you like it, You arrive at the coordinates before your team like in your post and encounter multiple assaults, you then proceed with engaging them like you say, you dont twiddle thumbs while waiting for backup and kill them all... 30s later the assaults get there, with ....nothing to assault, you again use your speed to get to another place on the map ahead of your assault team mates, they arrive again with the enemy team mobbed up and packaged ready for transit. But wait the Assault pulls out a gun! Did he see an enemy you did not see ??? Nah.... The assault pulls out his barcode register gun and prints our a barcode for on the Crate to ship them to a biomass vat because your suits sensors are better then theirs so its impossible to have missed any.... You then tell your squadmates to rendezvous at Delta, and while giving them a handshake you make make sure to tell them to make sure theres enough rounds left in those barcode guns! Cant have my shipment of clones not covered for freight next day delivery! Anything wrong here, where does the Assault come in, like doing his job assaulting?? See this is where you're wrong. A Scout doesn't have that much speed in any way to manage to get to objectives substantially faster than an Assault.
Icy TIG3R Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 78	Posted - 2013.04.11 19:18:00 - [7] - Quote I'd be fine with any buff to the Scout. CPU would bring it in line and make using Scout bearable, but even then, anything a Scout could do, and Assault would also manage, sometimes slightly better.