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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.01 00:05:00 -
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I think when the next build comes....corp matches may be all that vets do. So, the pub matches may see a lot of more solo and npc corp players there than anything else.
Although, I don't think that a lot of players will stay away from pub matches if KDR matters to them. Corp matches have a bad habit of bringing KDR down if your KDR is anything over a 1 or 2.
I, personally will probably be in more corp matches than anything else since acceptance of a corp match is no longer required. Especially, when I don't feel like playing pub matches after I've just participated in a corp match. But between defending your territories, attacking others, and helping out your alliance if they ask should keep many vets out of the pub matches. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.01 00:30:00 -
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It's not really the skill points of individual players...but the teams that you are on. Within the first week, you can create a formidable fit that will give you a chance in matches if you have skill. Type II dropsuit and a couple of shield extenders and you should be fine.
What happens is that you're running solo and placed across full squads of higher geared and teamwork-oriented players and that's why you have trouble. And it appears as if it's just only about gear when it is really about the teams. If you were placed in a match where everyone is solo and maybe one proto player on the other side......your experience will be different. Because tbh, many players are not using higher than STD gear in pub matches. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.01 00:31:00 -
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Kiro Justice wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:I think when the next build comes....corp matches may be all that vets do. So, the pub matches may see a lot of more solo and npc corp players there than anything else.
Although, I don't think that a lot of players will stay away from pub matches if KDR matters to them. Corp matches have a bad habit of bringing KDR down if your KDR is anything over a 1 or 2.
I, personally will probably be in more corp matches than anything else since acceptance of a corp match is no longer required. Especially, when I don't feel like playing pub matches after I've just participated in a corp match. But between defending your territories, attacking others, and helping out your alliance if they ask should keep many vets out of the pub matches. Not Corp matches. PC. One does not simply call Planetary Conquest a Corp Match
But they will be decided by corp matches, correct? |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.01 00:58:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Laheon wrote:Rifter7 wrote:i'm not stating that it should be removed. i'm saying it's something that should be thought about... mostly for the players that don't play as much.
please don't decide my stance on something by selectively quoting what i said haha.
There should be no thoughts about removal of active SP. Why? It discourages people from playing the game. "Why should I play now when I can come back in a year with 6m more SP and be able to jump into much better gear than I can now?" There is already a soft cap on SP per week, in order to make sure those who aren't as active don't fall too far behind. Don't punish those players who do play a lot, versus those who don't, simply because they're more dedicated (or have more free time) than those who aren't as active. that soft caps ensures the vets will always stay ahead as if i miss a week gaming or a few days beucase of the Cap i know no matter what i do i will never catch up, thus once your ahead you stay ahead this is why you see AFK farming so much. the skill system needs be done on EvE time system. the current method does not work in shooter
The only way to fix that is to remove the skill cap in its entirety.
But then you'll be facing the argument of players having the highest gear and skill points and not being able to compete...which is what your problem is in the first place. But then, on the other hand, at least new players can grind and earn enough to compete faster than they would with the current system (which, by the way, is the best system to date that includes a cap at all) |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.01 10:10:00 -
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Soozu wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:The problem is people come into the game thinking they are king of cod and get knocked down a notch. New players should be forced to watch the "training" movie about 10 times. 99% of the information needed to play, upgrade and specialize is in that movie. New players and old players alike make bad SP choices, so what. My 13 year old son had no problems at all starting and learning to skill. Matter of fact his first character - the one he plays all the time - had the passive SP turned off and was only collecting active SP. He has been playing for two months with no active. He does well with 600k SP and loves the game. The person who is doing the crying is at fault for the game is too complicated and they can't understand it. It is math, learn it. Read. It is amazing what you can learn by reading and then stopping to think. I have not helped my son (with the exception of turning on passive SP after seeing his earned SP was so low) at all, I did not explain anything, tell him how to specialize or recommend a corp. He is not a super genius and knew nothing of EVE or DUST before Jan 21 of this year. The argument that the new players are behind and cannot compete with vets is invalid and to be honest is silly. All games that have a multiplayer part have a learning curve for new players to over come. People who rage quit are the same people who don't read, do math or try. Suck it up and stop crying. I have brought at least 6 new players to the game. They all have said that it is complicated but none have quit because they can read, do math and have some social skills that allow them to become better and join squads and corporations. The people who are crying for new player bonuses, respecs and whatever else are mad because they suck at the game or just like crying about people better than themselves. You used crying twice in a sentence. Luckily it was the final sentence in your paragraph so i actually did read the whole thing. Some things about what you said really strike me as odd though. Your son is 13? Prime video gamer age and he needs help from his father to play a video game? You said he didn't, but he did, he missed his passive booster gains for 2 months ... two months, that's pretty big. It's understandable though, after all he's not a super genius or anything. Maybe you should have sat him down and forced him to watch the same video TEN TIMES... to bad there's no proper training system. Anyway, not to burst your big bubble of super non genius family and friends, but the people in this thread are not newbs. They are trying to help newbs and DUST's player retention. OK I lied. I'm trying to burst your bubble. Maybe you should read this thread again. Silly and invalid.... indeed.
Why are you insulting the man's son for? You think that anyone here is going to like you more for being a jerk?
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