The problem is people come into the game thinking they are king of cod and get knocked down a notch. New players should be forced to watch the "training" movie about 10 times. 99% of the information needed to play, upgrade and specialize is in that movie. New players and old players alike make bad SP choices, so what. My 13 year old son had no problems at all starting and learning to skill. Matter of fact his first character - the one he plays all the time - had the passive SP turned off and was only collecting active SP. He has been playing for two months with no active. He does well with 600k SP and loves the game. The person who is doing the crying is at fault for the game is too complicated and they can't understand it. It is math, learn it. Read. It is amazing what you can learn by reading and then stopping to think. I have not helped my son (with the exception of turning on passive SP after seeing his earned SP was so low) at all, I did not explain anything, tell him how to specialize or recommend a corp. He is not a super genius and knew nothing of EVE or DUST before Jan 21 of this year. The argument that the new players are behind and cannot compete with vets is invalid and to be honest is silly. All games that have a multiplayer part have a learning curve for new players to over come. People who rage quit are the same people who don't read, do math or try. Suck it up and stop crying. I have brought at least 6 new players to the game. They all have said that it is complicated but none have quit because they can read, do math and have some social skills that allow them to become better and join squads and corporations. The people who are crying for new player bonuses, respecs and whatever else are mad because they suck at the game or just like crying about people better than themselves.

This is an idea I could get behind. But because of the changing nature of DUST, it's unreasonable for a pre-designed system to be kept up-to-date on all the relevant information. Covering the basics THOROUGHLY is already done in the intro video, but there isn't much in-game encouragement to pay attention, and there isn't enough emphasis on "seriously, you DO want to know more. When I'm asking that, it's only a courtesy. Saying 'no' is a stupid idea and will get you murdered horribly and repeatedly.

Another good option is to encourage a "mentor" program - or recommend DUST University and other training Corps.

Maybe they could make teh NPC Corps fucntion more like mentor programs for new players. Experienced players are given some kind of encouragement/incentive to help out new arrivals to the game, by placing their characters (or alts) into a position of authority within one of the NPC Corps, and when a new player needs help, they get handed off to a more experienced player who shows them the ropes.


So if you've heard all the reasons and you disagree, then you have a solid argument to counter them? Because if so, you should probably share that in one of the respec threads, because I certainly haven't seen anything resembling a compelling argument in favour of a respec in any of them yet.

Why are you insulting the man's son for? You think that anyone here is going to like you more for being a jerk?

There's certainly no possibility his son was using passive SP to train up an alt while using his main, right?
There's certainly no possibility his son's main was created on the father's account and he kept the passive SP on his own character, right?

I've seen a 17 year old with multiple learning disabilities pick the game up and come out with a 4:1 KDR at the end of his first day. He has severe enough dyslexia that he was put into remedial classes for almost everything in High School, and not only was he good at the FPS gameplay, but he managed to figure out the skill system and the basics of the marketplace just fine by watching the tutorials and being patient with all the on-screen text.

Again, for the last kittening time, the SP gap is not a problem. The problem is the skill levels of the players themselves. You can very well hold your own in a militia fit. A friend I introduced to the game a couple days ago went 3/4 in his first ambush, with 4 assists.

And you really don't need a tutorial for "this is how to aim. This is how to move. This is how to shoot, this is how to ADS." Those are controls people will test out at their earliest convenience. Not to mention that the controls are shown in the loading screens anyway. A couple of games and you get used to it.