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Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2013.04.01 03:29:00 -
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I have a lot of characters between 1 and 3 million SP, going up against Protosuits and not falling behind significantly.
SP matters, but it isn't all that matters.
Gear matters, but it isn't all that matters.
If you're getting that brutally destroyed... they're probably at least as good as you are. |
Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2013.04.01 09:52:00 -
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Soozu wrote:A TRAINING SYSTEM. This is an idea I could get behind. But because of the changing nature of DUST, it's unreasonable for a pre-designed system to be kept up-to-date on all the relevant information. Covering the basics THOROUGHLY is already done in the intro video, but there isn't much in-game encouragement to pay attention, and there isn't enough emphasis on "seriously, you DO want to know more. When I'm asking that, it's only a courtesy. Saying 'no' is a stupid idea and will get you murdered horribly and repeatedly.
Another good option is to encourage a "mentor" program - or recommend DUST University and other training Corps.
Maybe they could make teh NPC Corps fucntion more like mentor programs for new players. Experienced players are given some kind of encouragement/incentive to help out new arrivals to the game, by placing their characters (or alts) into a position of authority within one of the NPC Corps, and when a new player needs help, they get handed off to a more experienced player who shows them the ropes.
Quote:Post Script If you plan on replying telling me why repecs are bad ideas don't bother. The thread was many pages, I've heard all the excuses and still disagree. It's the easiest and quickest solution to the issue. Which is, if new players don't start getting put through a thorough training system soon and I do mean soon, then they need someone to throw them a bone somewhere... and if CCP hasn't already made a killer training simulator that's just waiting for implementation and the go ahead from SONY, there's no other bone available. Newbs be rage quitting. So if you've heard all the reasons and you disagree, then you have a solid argument to counter them? Because if so, you should probably share that in one of the respec threads, because I certainly haven't seen anything resembling a compelling argument in favour of a respec in any of them yet. |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 10:25:00 -
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Soozu wrote:[You used crying twice in a sentence. Luckily it was the final sentence in your paragraph so i actually did read the whole thing. Some things about what you said really strike me as odd though. Your son is 13? Prime video gamer age and he needs help from his father to play a video game? You said he didn't, but he did, he missed his passive booster gains for 2 months ... two months, that's pretty big. It's understandable though, after all he's not a super genius or anything. Maybe you should have sat him down and forced him to watch the same video TEN TIMES... to bad there's no proper training system.
Anyway, not to burst your big bubble of super non genius family and friends, but the people in this thread are not newbs. They are trying to help newbs and DUST's player retention. OK I lied. I'm trying to burst your bubble. Maybe you should read this thread again. Silly and invalid.... indeed. There's certainly no possibility his son was using passive SP to train up an alt while using his main, right? There's certainly no possibility his son's main was created on the father's account and he kept the passive SP on his own character, right?
I've seen a 17 year old with multiple learning disabilities pick the game up and come out with a 4:1 KDR at the end of his first day. He has severe enough dyslexia that he was put into remedial classes for almost everything in High School, and not only was he good at the FPS gameplay, but he managed to figure out the skill system and the basics of the marketplace just fine by watching the tutorials and being patient with all the on-screen text. |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 10:30:00 -
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Soozu wrote:or at the very least have peoples mics starting in the on position. I lost count a LONG time ago of how many times I've said this.
Voice NEEDS to default to "on" - and with the PTT button in a less-than-intuitive position on the d-pad, it would be nice to see that default to "off" as well. Been calling for both of those things since they added PTT, and before PTT I was asking for voice to default to on. Still hasn't happened. |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 11:05:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Soozu wrote:or at the very least have peoples mics starting in the on position. I lost count a LONG time ago of how many times I've said this. Voice NEEDS to default to "on" - and with the PTT button in a less-than-intuitive position on the d-pad, it would be nice to see that default to "off" as well. Been calling for both of those things since they added PTT, and before PTT I was asking for voice to default to on. Still hasn't happened. In my experience with mics I have found that if there is no mic connected then the open mics get garbage. I like the mics off. If you have a mic then you should be aware of the settings. However, I would like a setting that turned the push to talk into a toggle on /off. Yes, open voice is annoying without a mic, but having it on by default will remind people who want it out of the way to mute people or turn it off. Having it off by default makes a lot of people assume the game doesn't support voice. Because almost every console game ever has voice on by default, and it's actually pretty rare (although less rare than defaulting to off) for console games to have push-to-talk.
The Robot Devil wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:There's certainly no possibility his son was using passive SP to train up an alt while using his main, right? There's certainly no possibility his son's main was created on the father's account and he kept the passive SP on his own character, right?
I've seen a 17 year old with multiple learning disabilities pick the game up and come out with a 4:1 KDR at the end of his first day. He has severe enough dyslexia that he was put into remedial classes for almost everything in High School, and not only was he good at the FPS gameplay, but he managed to figure out the skill system and the basics of the marketplace just fine by watching the tutorials and being patient with all the on-screen text. He only has made one character and our PlayStations are totally separate. I have my own personal account and he has his Sorry, I wasn't saying that those suggestions WERE the situation your son was in, I was pointing out that your information didn't clarify the situation well enough to support someone jumping to conclusions about how it happened. Obviously, now that you've replied, it WAS basically the scenario he described, but there were enough other possibilities that it was still a bad idea to make the call he did. |
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Posted - 2013.04.01 19:31:00 -
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PC and FW will - probably - reduce the amount of pub-stomping, but there WILL still be player rolling Proto gear in pub matches, and there WILL still be organised Corp squads doing it. They just won't be quite as dominant in this area as they are at present.
If you don't own any districts in PC, how are you going to farm ISK for the next Genolution Pack? FW, maybe? If the rewards are good, AND if they're consistent and reliable... maybe. If you have to win for the big payout, and you're running into the higher-level Corps too often for your liking, maybe a smaller Corp will troll people in pubstomps like they do now. It won't be as brutal as the Imperfects doing it, but it can still hurt. |
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Posted - 2013.04.02 13:48:00 -
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Laheon wrote:Django Quik wrote:Once you hit a few million, the differences are negligible. I've not even hit 5 million SP total yet and it's rare for me to not be top 5 on the scoreboards. I'm on 1.2 and it's rare that I'm not in the top 5, and I lone wolf it most of the time... I've got a selection of characters between 1 and 3 million SP (as well as a handful above that level) and I'm usually in the top 5. |
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