Just to clear up any misunderstanding for you folks. Today I am conducting one of our lottery draws, and in an attempt last night to transfer 300 million ISK using the contract system, and accepting it by our holdings corp, because loading the member list is next to impossible, the contract was intercepted by PFBZ. Enjoy your ISK PFBZ, it was not meant to go down like it did but you fought well regardless.

Gotta go grind some ISK,
Cheers!

Some of those Hoes went to that Dentists' office, just FYI.

Story: http://tinyurl.com/blwntcn

We have reached out to the PFBHz, TEST and PRO. But any comments from those involved would be appreciated.

Just to clear up any misunderstanding for you folks. Today I am conducting one of our lottery draws, and in an attempt last night to transfer 300 million ISK using the contract system, and accepting it by our holdings corp, because loading the member list is next to impossible, the contract was intercepted by PFBZ. Enjoy your ISK PFBZ, it was not meant to go down like it did but you fought well regardless.

Gotta go grind some ISK,
Cheers!

"Sources are reporting that last night a Planetary Response Organization cruiser shipment carrying between 300-600M ISK to a holding corporation facility, was intercepted by a striketeam of highly trained PFBHz operatives."

LoL...wtf?

There wasnt a space-based interception...lmao.....

...It was a corporation match on Ashged III. Says in the video. It occurred on the ground, not in space, and had nothing to do with cruisers carrying ISK. What's the point in reporting on stuff that didn't happen? What's the point in spinning the story to something that, on the whole, doesn't really matter anyway?

What's wrong with just reporting what happened and letting the community read the results? Rarely have I spoken up on these GNN v Dusters issues but seriously this is just silly......describing a corp match as an interception in space???

The Real GNN's Article

No bullshit. Just reports, plus the video...soooo.........

Enjoy. <3

-Olivia

The real GNN? oh god just stop. they are obviously trying to make the game fun which is 100x better than ur "we are trying to be reputable and only report the facts" crapola THERE ARE NO FACTS ITS A VIDEOGAME. go get some sun!

Just to clear up any misunderstanding for you folks. Today I am conducting one of our lottery draws, and in an attempt last night to transfer 300 million ISK using the contract system, and accepting it by our holdings corp, because loading the member list is next to impossible, the contract was intercepted by PFBZ. Enjoy your ISK PFBZ, it was not meant to go down like it did but you fought well regardless.

Gotta go grind some ISK,
Cheers!

See....and look how people are making up stories about being drunk and other stuff like that. Dust High School 514 with all the gossip and rumor drama

u look silly trying to complain about what theyre doing Grezkev. Its like ur mad no one reads ur site or something.

let it go.

players dont care about it so why should you? everytime they post you chime in with ads about your GNN. ur worse than contra with the spam.

The fact that it didn't dawn on you that theres a more secure way to transfer money b/w corps without using the contract system is more telling then the match itself.

Please fill me, last time I checked, loading our corporation list to transfer funds to members resulted in several internal errors and several hours of frustration before being able to transfer to anyone due to our corp size.

I expect a reply.

How do you transfer money to the 50/50 lottery winners then? same thing? Contract system?

From within our smaller Holdings corp made up just for transfers, but moving the ISK to that corp is the issue... had my second ps3 not buggered up, none of this would be here today.

Regardless, 300 million is a relatively low value, and certainly not news worthy to anyone but the smallest of corps.

Wait so you guys can't open your own members list? How do you give out promotions? How do you leave??

Wait so you guys can't open your own members list? How do you give out promotions? How do you leave??

Couldn't you of just done a Jenza and cancel the contract?

We are having a party tonight lots of boats and hoes!

We are having a party tonight lots of boats and hoes!

Also, enjoy the ISK PFBHZ, I had a lot of fun with you guys in MAG on both sides of the war, I rather you have that ISK than many of the other enemy corps out there. Besides, most other corps would have struggled to beat us for it. (thats a compliment).

THIS THREAD IS DEAD, OR YOU GET HORSES HEAD

I think you and my definition of struggle mean different things would you care to put up that sum again?

Judging on how thoroughly trashed you were in that match id venture to say wont matter if the ISK amount was a drop in the bucket or not, its nice to know other corps will then have such a pushover source for a revenue stream

Tomorrow afternoon, if the ISK doesn't mean anything, lets post 5 million shall we? Contact my EVE toon when you get up and we will be in touch.

ContraBanJoePRO

How about we bump it up a bit... 300 Mill ISK is just pocket lint right

300M/1300=230,770 ISK.

Why don't you put it up again if its so meager and your're so sure of PRO, after all everyone else beside PFB would struggle for it right?


Awful quiet all of sudden....chirp chirp chirp.

I would assume it's because if they WIN, they win what is for them "pocket lint". If they LOSE some other corp who would struggle making that kind of money gets what is, for them, a big payday.

The risk/reward doesn't make sense from their perspective.

You mean potentially crippling us, or humbling us, or putting us in our place, or simply demonstrating that Joe's Legendary FPS skills can turn the tides of battle aren't reason enough?



Man you really should encourage your "friend"(lapdog seems more appropriate) to stay off forums and let damage control be handled by the real leaders of your organization.


You can talk about risk/reward seems to me im not the one making statements and unwilling to put ISK on the line to back them up

What makes you think anyone cares whether you get "humbled" or not? I agree with you that Joe seems to enjoy being flippant and irritating some of you little specialized corps, but I find it entertaining.

The reality is, when it comes down to 8v8, at best, any 1 corp vs another is gonna basically be a 50/50 coin flip sort of situation. That's best case scenario.
The best pro could hope for is to get their very best guys online and fighting your best, but the difference in corp makeup/approach means that even with that scenario, you guys will have the advantage. Your corp is so small that your guys at this point are much more prepared for very small specialized battles. That's your territory and it would be foolish to pretend otherwise.

Why would a good leader wage a battle that's pitched in favor of the opponent? I doubt you guys would be willing to fight PRO at 15 simultaneous battles for 20 MIL each, would you?

Yes, clearly I'm a TEST "shadow boss" with my elite 0 days of Eve experience. I guess I'll take it as a compliment though.

I think however, that you miss the point of my 50/50 statement. I said AT BEST an 8v8 is a coin flip scenario. Put two great 8 man teams up against each other and who wins will come down to fairly random and hard to define variables. Anyone being honest would agree that your corp performs at a reasonably high skill level. So, even assuming that PRO could field an equal team of 8 to your own, they would still only be looking at, in reality, a 50/50 shot of winning.

Lastly, if you think Subdreddit has any hand in PRO's decision making, you haven't done your proper spai work. Believe it or not, but Subdreddit is not a major player in TEST politics. We are mostly a bunch of console FPS grunts, just like most of you guys. As long as we aren't stepping directly on the toes of our Eve side alliances we are free to do whatever the hell we want, as is PRO. No one tells PRO what they can do or say, that's part of the beauty of TEST. I know from the outside it probably looks like we are some sort of borg-like entity, but in reality our strength comes from the very opposite qualities.

Contrabanjoe and his PRO boys are a giant travelling circus, for better or worse. Telling those guys what to do would be like trying to herd cats man.

What makes you think anyone cares whether you get "humbled" or not? I agree with you that Joe seems to enjoy being flippant and irritating some of you little specialized corps, but I find it entertaining.

The reality is, when it comes down to 8v8, at best, any 1 corp vs another is gonna basically be a 50/50 coin flip sort of situation. That's best case scenario.
The best pro could hope for is to get their very best guys online and fighting your best, but the difference in corp makeup/approach means that even with that scenario, you guys will have the advantage. Your corp is so small that your guys at this point are much more prepared for very small specialized battles. That's your territory and it would be foolish to pretend otherwise.

Why would a good leader wage a battle that's pitched in favor of the opponent? I doubt you guys would be willing to fight PRO at 15 simultaneous battles for 20 MIL each, would you?

Tomorrow afternoon, if the ISK doesn't mean anything, lets post 5 million shall we? Contact my EVE toon when you get up and we will be in touch.

ContraBanJoePRO

Mavado, the first system being opened up will have 250 districts, and that's just one small portion of the star map. If you want to hold even a single system you're going to need to set timers for 250 districts. That's over 10 timers per hour. Maybe other corps have no intention of actually holding a decent amount of Sov, and thus they wont need 100s of guys on at all times, that's their prerogative. That doesn't mean other corps don't have bigger ambitions.

The tears of Zerg corps are going to be amazing.

And how will PRO hold any districts at all when they go 10-150 in every match?

Your assumption seems to be that the corps that are populated mostly by closed beta FPS veterans will somehow continue to improve to the same degree as a corp consisting mostly of players who have been playing for a few weeks. I'm not at all convinced that this is a good assumption to make. It's going to come down to their ability to organize long term, as well as how the game ends up being designed. Just because someone is new now, doesn't mean they will be new forever.

I assure, this response will be the most relevant sir.
Wait for it... wait for it :wink:

I don't know why everyone doubts PRO. Even if only 1% of their members are amazing, they're still going to wreck anything they set their eyes on. They have the numbers, the money, and the skill to put forth a damn good team whenever and where ever they want, with a little bit of forward planning. And I bet they have more players online than any other corp in the game, 99% of the time. For them, the other night is just a little bump in the road.

A pebble sized bump.
We have already recovered all the ISK lost last night.

And then some ;)
Cheers Cat on that super secret project you just took care of... your work will be remembered, but never revealed!

And how will PRO hold any districts at all when they go 10-150 in every match?

Joe no respond. We can corp battle for 5mill I really do not care.

Joe I really don't buy this reason. There are so many easier ways to move corp funds. We all make mistakes.

@ Cat Merc you are truly a Forum warrior and a good I might just point out. Now only if you used that time and effort on DUST you might actually be fun to play against.

*Lastly any PRO member who feels they want to improve , or just want take their gaming to the next level. Please send me msg or apply. NF is always looking for new talent.

Joe no respond. We can corp battle for 5mill I really do not care.

Joe I really don't buy this reason. There are so many easier ways to move corp funds. We all make mistakes.

@ Cat Merc you are truly a Forum warrior and a good I might just point out. Now only if you used that time and effort on DUST you might actually be fun to play against.

*Lastly any PRO member who feels they want to improve , or just want take their gaming to the next level. Please send me msg or apply. NF is always looking for new talent.

You do have a lovely singing voice maam.

Two instant replies...now I just feel flattered .

@ Joe
I sorry if I struck a nerve, but I still want corp to battle 5 Mill sounds good. We kinda have a rivalry going with PFBHz. Because they stomped you, we are now forced to stomp you even harder. It is a public image thingy

@ Cat

I will judge you based on the Tag you wear. Until you or corp prove yourself worthy of my praise you will not have it. However, feel free to praise me

Well, I'll also judge you by your tag until you prove otherwise.
You're a snob above average player who thinks that being in the Imperfects means he's the best of the best, when in reality I saw blueberries take care of Imperfect squads and then the squads quits to make sure no more KD/R is lost.

Closed Beta Tourney winner... enough said

What did PRO place again?

Closed Beta Tourney winner... enough said

What did PRO place again?

Congrats.
So you beat more above average players.
Once this game becomes actually decent you will see the actually god like players join into the game and show you what happens when you have a **** bucket.

Thanks man it means a lot.

I don't mean to brag or anything, but yeah...

I really hope we get more competitive players to join, and really spice up the dynamics a bit. However, Iam not that worried because in almost every FPS I play I'm in the top 1 percentile. I have done it all GB, MLG, LAN tournaments, etc. I could list everything I have done, placed, and won... but then you just call me a snob

BTW thank you posting BF3 video, which is once again another game that I was in the Top 1%. Through on BF3 we did not brag about how many members we had LMFAO.

Ok, I'm just gonna come right out and ask... is this a parody account, or is this guy for real? I mean, everyone on this forum operates at about a 6 or 7 on the troll scale, but this dude is at a constant 11. It's admittedly somewhat entertaining at times, but after awhile I start to wonder if I'm not falling victim to the gamer version of Poe's Law.

Ok, I'm just gonna come right out and ask... is this a parody account, or is this guy for real? I mean, everyone on this forum operates at about a 6 or 7 on the troll scale, but this dude is at a constant 11. It's admittedly somewhat entertaining at times, but after awhile I start to wonder if I'm not falling victim to the gamer version of Poe's Law.

@ Cat Merc

When did I ever say leader broads?

I get it your too for L33T for BF3 or COD . My main Competitive shooters where CS and HALO.

For CS I won a couple NA Competitions... never EU

For Halo I had a fully sponsored team and toured for MLG... did not win anything amazing tho
I can go into details if you want, but then you call me a snob again.

Nope, my favorite shooter was CS.
I still go back there from time to time.

I always get banned from servers because they think I'm cheating.
Once I upgraded my internet and could play in EU servers with reasonable ping, still the same happened.
I got offers from very well known and respected clans over here (Gaming in Israel is small, so you probably won't know them), but I refused, because I preferred to keep gaming as a hobby.

Mavado, the first system being opened up will have 250 districts, and that's just one small portion of the star map. If you want to hold even a single system you're going to need to set timers for 250 districts. That's over 10 timers per hour. Maybe other corps have no intention of actually holding a decent amount of Sov, and thus they wont need 100s of guys on at all times, that's their prerogative. That doesn't mean other corps don't have bigger ambitions.

Your assumption seems to be that the corps that are populated mostly by closed beta FPS veterans will somehow continue to improve to the same degree as a corp consisting mostly of players who have been playing for a few weeks. I'm not at all convinced that this is a good assumption to make. It's going to come down to their ability to organize long term, as well as how the game ends up being designed. Just because someone is new now, doesn't mean they will be new forever.

The bravado of some of these corps is fairly amusing. I think they actually believe that their corps are packed full of hundreds of MLG FPS gods. It's honestly kind of cute.

I've been around a long time here, and I've seen most of these "big name" guys play, and I've watched their youtube videos. They're above average FPS players, that's all. Becoming an above average FPS player in game requires basically one thing: experience. The more you play, the closer you're going to get to their level. In the next year most of them are, at best, going to get incrementally better. Afterall, it's just an FPS, it's not exactly rocket science. It's a fairly straightforward sort of skillset. I don't say that to be an *******, but let's be realistic here. It's fun to poke and prod each other on these forums, but when the rubber actually hits the road and people are playing the final game, surely they know all of this.

It's clear it's why you guys get so much hate. The implications of what you are doing ruins their little gamer fantasies that they've constructed.

Also last point and this is true in ANY FPS community....GOOD players like to play with GOOD ppl. Only so long before w/e good players that are in bad corps get tired of carrying ppl and move onto corps that more around their skill lvl.

You assume that the mentors are bad.
If the bunnies were in our situation they would probably lose too, there was more than skill factored into the battle last night.
This has been explained a gazillion times already so I won't bother to, but know this, we aren't lacking good players or mentors.

Now go back to rubbing your E-peen while we do our thing.


This is my last comment to this thread as I spent enough time explaining to people what happened and why.

You assume that the mentors are bad.
This has been explained a gazillion times already so I won't bother to, but know this, we aren't lacking good players or mentors.

The bravado of some of these corps is fairly amusing. I think they actually believe that their corps are packed full of hundreds of MLG FPS gods. It's honestly kind of cute.

I've been around a long time here, and I've seen most of these "big name" guys play, and I've watched their youtube videos. They're above average FPS players, that's all. Becoming an above average FPS player in game requires basically one thing: experience. The more you play, the closer you're going to get to their level. In the next year most of them are, at best, going to get incrementally better. Afterall, it's just an FPS, it's not exactly rocket science. It's a fairly straightforward sort of skillset. I don't say that to be an *******, but let's be realistic here. It's fun to poke and prod each other on these forums, but when the rubber actually hits the road and people are playing the final game, surely they know all of this.

It's clear it's why you guys get so much hate. The implications of what you are doing ruins their little gamer fantasies that they've constructed.

Afterall, it's just an FPS, it's not exactly rocket science. It's a fairly straightforward sort of skillset. I don't say that to be an *******

It doesn't matter how good of mentors PRO has. At best they can teach people good skill setups, map layouts, and tactics on the maps. You can't teach someone reaction speed, precision, or hand-eye coordination, and you can only teach awareness to a certain degree. Those are natural traits that the truly good FPSers have. Mentors can help new players overcome the learning curve, but natural talent is what separates the above average from the truly skilled.

Just because I don't want to see stupid things like that here:
Many of those talents are given through just playing FPS's.
When I just started playing CS (my first FPS), it took me 0.8 seconds to react to someone, my hand eye coordination was bad, couldn't hit anyone moving and a goldfish was more aware than me.
Now see the above about how good I am at CS.
These things are learned, it isn't something you are born with as natural talent.
And its also proven scientifically that stuff like that improves over time with games, which is why they let people with disabilities and those areas play games to help them overcome the disability.

So yeah, total bullshit.

This is my last comment to this thread as I spent enough time explaining to people what happened and why.

I thought you stopped posting

Forum Fail!

It was something new, so I had a reason to post.
And I added:
"Just because I don't want to see stupid things like that here:"

I have this urge to correct everyone if I know they're wrong, I just can't shut up about stuff like that.


Anyway, I'm going now.
Disclaimer: I will be back if I see more stupid stuff that I have to correct.

First, I would just like to thank PRO for the large contract. Any and all ISK donations are greatly appreciated.

I am a bit confused about one thing though. CBJ states he was moving ISK between corps but the contract was about to expire when we accepted it....which means it was roughly 20 minutes old at the time we grabbed it.

If you're moving 300+ Mil ISK wouldn't you have the other Director logged in ready to go....and even if the other PS3 bricked or your toon DC, how does it take 20 minutes to get logged back in and accept the contract?



First it was "I was drunk on an SD set and I added too many 0's" Now this whole transfer bit?

Not that it really matters but I would love to hear what really happened because I don't think we've actually heard the truth yet.


Thanks again and let us know the next time we can assist with moving ISK around for you.

So your a lair and a thief

@Cat Merc please stop blowing off the experience of those that were in that battle. First you were not there, in no way was this the B team. The majority of the players were at least 3 year vets of PRO and their top teir. Your revisionist history and painting a picture that Highguy, Severance, Bloody, Shutterfly, Bonecollector are an unorganized mess and it would've gone better is a lie and disrespectful to them. Ask shutterfly and severance, they admit they got beat and have a lot of work to do. That opponent was a surprise to them but that evening had been planned with the A squad to compete against several other corp battles. In the end they lost badly, Any criticism about the performance and how others willl stack is valid and on the table. Keep spinning your PR to protect Joe and his thought process after drinking for 20 hours but don't do it on the backs of those that are actually doing the fighting. You'd be better spending that time helping create a Tactical SOP with your years of CS experience and work with your holdings group.

You didn't understand me.
There was more to it than the individual mercs.
Look around the forums, I explained it countless of times.
These dudes also admitted that they would be swapped out by better players from the A team, and their leader was offline, since the next battle was supposed to happen in 45 minutes, he took a break.
Also, some randoms got in.
And one of the heavies got D/C'd.
In short, it was a mess.

So who are you making excuses for Joe and his issues or your corpmates and their performance? If its Joe carry-on and good luck. If its the crew that is in that battle, they don't need any **** from a forum warrior like you. They're big enough to own it, it's not the first nor the last loss, but to after the fact Monday morning quarterback and say the JV squad ****** up the big game is both a lie and disrespectful to some folks who have been bleeding PRO a lot longer than you. To my friends that were part of it I'm certain that loss will only strengthen you but I know your all man enough to own it and certainly don't want to be painted as the kids who can't sit at the adult table.

I understand your trolling, and your basically targeting the L33T players.

However, if gonna do it at least do it right man. Go after the imbalance of Passive skills and gear... not experience. I really don't understand your point with whole experience thingy.

Are saying the MLG pros are so good because of raw talent and they don't need experience or

Are saying anybody can be a pro. They just need experience

Personally, I think your looking at whole Vet vs Noob wrong, but then again you are obviously trying to provoke a reaction.


This made lol because a nerdy guy in one of my classes said something very similar. He said, "Basketball is just about angles and curve charts. Its's a fairly straightforward and easy".
^
Your right a FPS is basically pointing and shooting. You just came off kind of nerdy.

I smell many virgins in this thread.

I am nerdy. However, I'm not so nerdy that I would compare the skills required to play Dust 514 to the level of skills required to be a great basketball player. I mean, come on. You can't possibly be serious.

Being the best Dust 514 player is like being the best American Football player at summer camp in Sweden.

Joe no respond. We can corp battle for 5mill I really do not care.

Joe I really don't buy this reason. There are so many easier ways to move corp funds. We all make mistakes.

@ Cat Merc you are truly a Forum warrior and a good I might just point out. Now only if you used that time and effort on DUST you might actually be fun to play against.

*Lastly any PRO member who feels they want to improve , or just want take their gaming to the next level. Please send me msg or apply. NF is always looking for new talent.

Yes, all these corps preach quality over quantity, a small group of gamers over a swarm, yet they're always looking for new talent. Hmmm....

This is the same thing I've been hearing from PRO for 3+ years, yet I have never seen results. Personally I just want a good fight, should set some up with those good players like CBJ offered earlier :D

Just because I don't want to see stupid things like that here:
Many of those talents are given through just playing FPS's.
When I just started playing CS (my first FPS), it took me 0.8 seconds to react to someone, my hand eye coordination was bad, couldn't hit anyone moving and a goldfish was more aware than me.
Now see the above about how good I am at CS.
These things are learned, it isn't something you are born with as natural talent.
And its also proven scientifically that stuff like that improves over time with games, which is why they let people with disabilities in those areas play games to help them overcome the disability.

So yeah, total bullshit.

I like how you removed the part where I explained that if the bunnies were in the exact same situation as us, you would probably lose.

Hello! Did we happen to meet back in MAG? I don't recognise that particular screen name, who may have you been?

No interest in picking fights; interested in knowing who's who when such claims are made.

I like how you removed the part where I explained that if the bunnies were in the exact same situation as us, you would probably lose.
"You assume that the mentors are bad"
And
"This has been explained a gazillion times..."
Are separate from each other.

Swiiiiing and a miss. better luck next time

Hi Carl, it's Fizzycandy :)

I smell many virgins in this thread.

Hi Carl, it's Fizzycandy :)



I removed it because it didn't matter with what I was responding to. Even if I left it in the quote, my response wouldn't have changed.. nitpick less and respond to my actual post more next time? Also, not too sure what you're trying to accomplish by saying "if the bunnies were in that situation they would lose" anyway. A big part of not losing is not putting yourself into bad situations in the first place, lol. (And as Veritas said, we pulled together a team better than yours in time anyway lol)

Well I'll be. Fizzy, I thought we had chemistry; why the hate?!

I didn't think anything I said was hateful, moreso just responding to CBJ's claims

Story: http://tinyurl.com/blwntcn

We have reached out to the PFBHz, TEST and PRO. But any comments from those involved would be appreciated.

So question.
How are you supposed to pronounce your name?

however you want, as long as you go hard

but srsly it's fizzeh candy Unless you meant the Coruscanti part, but ain't nobody got time for that

Fixed

Apparently, to transfer ISK you need to use a cruiser.
I guess we never heard of the word bank?

well hes gotta stay "in character and in lore" to make it interesting
whereas tbqh i rea EN24 for the fights i really dont wanna read made up fantasy roleplay bs but alas thats the direction loldusters chose for their way of reporting on battles

our loss to STB was reported as our corp gettin robbed.......go figure........

I think they should write two pages for each event.
One serious, where things are told as they are, and the second is where the role play stuff happens.

I did both in a single paragraph of highlights in that GNN thread.

Which is why you should write for us ;D

I take VISA, Mastercard, and Discover. No, I don't take American Express.

TBQH, I'm not buying any of this crap. Particularly the bit about how 300m is nothing. In this context, it's huge. Any denial thereof is purely damage control, and lies. If 300m was nothing, PRO would be putting up 100-300m contracts all day, in the off-chance they'd win. It was clearly a mistake, that much is obvious. There is no way CBJ has that much confidence in his band of merry men to bet that much money on 8 of them. The only person Joe has that much confidence in is himself, and I don't think he even believes himself to be that good anymore.

Shameless advertising incoming...

Should there be a need of securely moving ISK between corps feel free to poke me and I'll help you secure it.

/c

Shameless advertising incoming...

Should there be a need of securely moving ISK between corps feel free to poke me and I'll help you secure it.

/c

Transfering 300mil ISK and you couldn't be bothered to wait for the members list to load up?

Really? Thats just laziness.

Anyway, congratulations PFBHz, this week, you will eat only the finest bacon

From what I understand, PRO's members list won't load AT ALL. Which doesn't surprise me considering it takes about 10-15 minutes to load my own corp's list, and we've only got 600 members.

we can not load our member's list either, neither can CCP, its at 1,622 so far