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Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.31 18:46:00 -
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ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Quote:The bravado of some of these corps is fairly amusing. I think they actually believe that their corps are packed full of hundreds of MLG FPS gods. It's honestly kind of cute.
I've been around a long time here, and I've seen most of these "big name" guys play, and I've watched their youtube videos. They're above average FPS players, that's all. Becoming an above average FPS player in game requires basically one thing: experience. The more you play, the closer you're going to get to their level. In the next year most of them are, at best, going to get incrementally better. Afterall, it's just an FPS, it's not exactly rocket science. It's a fairly straightforward sort of skillset. I don't say that to be an *******, but let's be realistic here. It's fun to poke and prod each other on these forums, but when the rubber actually hits the road and people are playing the final game, surely they know all of this.
It's clear it's why you guys get so much hate. The implications of what you are doing ruins their little gamer fantasies that they've constructed. I understand your trolling, and your basically targeting the L33T players. However, if gonna do it at least do it right man. Go after the imbalance of Passive skills and gear... not experience. I really don't understand your point with whole experience thingy. Are saying the MLG pros are so good because of raw talent and they don't need experience or Are saying anybody can be a pro. They just need experience Personally, I think your looking at whole Vet vs Noob wrong, but then again you are obviously trying to provoke a reaction. Quote:Afterall, it's just an FPS, it's not exactly rocket science. It's a fairly straightforward sort of skillset. I don't say that to be an ******* This made lol because a nerdy guy in one of my classes said something very similar. He said, "Basketball is just about angles and curve charts. Its's a fairly straightforward and easy". ^ Your right a FPS is basically pointing and shooting. You just came off kind of nerdy.
I am nerdy. However, I'm not so nerdy that I would compare the skills required to play Dust 514 to the level of skills required to be a great basketball plars. I mean, come on.
Being the best Dust 514 player is like being the best American Football player in Sweden. |
Moon Cricket Bob
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
41
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Posted - 2013.03.31 19:28:00 -
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I smell many virgins in this thread. |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
427
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Posted - 2013.03.31 20:04:00 -
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Moon Cricket Bob wrote:I smell many virgins in this thread.
Swiiiiing and a miss. better luck next time |
Goon ReGnUM
Immobile Infantry
0
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Posted - 2013.03.31 21:17:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Quote:The bravado of some of these corps is fairly amusing. I think they actually believe that their corps are packed full of hundreds of MLG FPS gods. It's honestly kind of cute.
I've been around a long time here, and I've seen most of these "big name" guys play, and I've watched their youtube videos. They're above average FPS players, that's all. Becoming an above average FPS player in game requires basically one thing: experience. The more you play, the closer you're going to get to their level. In the next year most of them are, at best, going to get incrementally better. Afterall, it's just an FPS, it's not exactly rocket science. It's a fairly straightforward sort of skillset. I don't say that to be an *******, but let's be realistic here. It's fun to poke and prod each other on these forums, but when the rubber actually hits the road and people are playing the final game, surely they know all of this.
It's clear it's why you guys get so much hate. The implications of what you are doing ruins their little gamer fantasies that they've constructed. I understand your trolling, and your basically targeting the L33T players. However, if gonna do it at least do it right man. Go after the imbalance of Passive skills and gear... not experience. I really don't understand your point with whole experience thingy. Are saying the MLG pros are so good because of raw talent and they don't need experience or Are saying anybody can be a pro. They just need experience Personally, I think your looking at whole Vet vs Noob wrong, but then again you are obviously trying to provoke a reaction. Quote:Afterall, it's just an FPS, it's not exactly rocket science. It's a fairly straightforward sort of skillset. I don't say that to be an ******* This made lol because a nerdy guy in one of my classes said something very similar. He said, "Basketball is just about angles and curve charts. Its's a fairly straightforward and easy". ^ Your right a FPS is basically pointing and shooting. You just came off kind of nerdy. I am nerdy. However, I'm not so nerdy that I would compare the skills required to play Dust 514 to the level of skills required to be a great basketball player. I mean, come on. You can't possibly be serious. Being the best Dust 514 player is like being the best American Football player at summer camp in Sweden.
We have have already established that your nerdy.. IE the above quote. Never once did I compare Dust 514 to Basketball. What I did compare was nerdiness of both quotes.
I don't know what is more shocking your inability to comprehend the English language, or thought that having 1000 of players gives you some sort of advantage in 16v16 lobby shooter .
Like said experience was the wrong word to use. |
Aegis Scientiafide
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2013.03.31 21:40:00 -
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ReGnUM Public Relations wrote: Joe no respond. We can corp battle for 5mill I really do not care. Joe I really don't buy this reason. There are so many easier ways to move corp funds. We all make mistakes. @ Cat Merc you are truly a Forum warrior and a good I might just point out. Now only if you used that time and effort on DUST you might actually be fun to play against. *Lastly any PRO member who feels they want to improve , or just want take their gaming to the next level. Please send me msg or apply. NF is always looking for new talent.
Yes, all these corps preach quality over quantity, a small group of gamers over a swarm, yet they're always looking for new talent. Hmmm.... |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2626
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Posted - 2013.03.31 23:49:00 -
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Aegis Scientiafide wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote: Joe no respond. We can corp battle for 5mill I really do not care. Joe I really don't buy this reason. There are so many easier ways to move corp funds. We all make mistakes. @ Cat Merc you are truly a Forum warrior and a good I might just point out. Now only if you used that time and effort on DUST you might actually be fun to play against. *Lastly any PRO member who feels they want to improve , or just want take their gaming to the next level. Please send me msg or apply. NF is always looking for new talent. Yes, all these corps preach quality over quantity, a small group of gamers over a swarm, yet they're always looking for new talent. Hmmm....
Keyword is TALENT. Nothing wrong with having a large grp these corps u mention just put QUALITY 1st over just increasing their numbers and lowering overall quality of the grp.
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CarlDub
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
9
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Posted - 2013.04.01 01:09:00 -
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Kreayshawn Coruscanti wrote:Cat Merc wrote:You assume that the mentors are bad. This has been explained a gazillion times already so I won't bother to, but know this, we aren't lacking good players or mentors.
This is the same thing I've been hearing from PRO for 3+ years, yet I have never seen results. Personally I just want a good fight, should set some up with those good players like CBJ offered earlier :D
Hello! Did we happen to meet back in MAG? I don't recognise that particular screen name, who may have you been?
No interest in picking fights; interested in knowing who's who when such claims are made. |
Veritas Vitae
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
105
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Posted - 2013.04.01 01:28:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Veritas Vitae wrote:It doesn't matter how good of mentors PRO has. At best they can teach people good skill setups, map layouts, and tactics on the maps. You can't teach someone reaction speed, precision, or hand-eye coordination, and you can only teach awareness to a certain degree. Those are natural traits that the truly good FPSers have. Mentors can help new players overcome the learning curve, but natural talent is what separates the above average from the truly skilled. Just because I don't want to see stupid things like that here: Many of those talents are given through just playing FPS's. When I just started playing CS (my first FPS), it took me 0.8 seconds to react to someone, my hand eye coordination was bad, couldn't hit anyone moving and a goldfish was more aware than me. Now see the above about how good I am at CS. These things are learned, it isn't something you are born with as natural talent. And its also proven scientifically that stuff like that improves over time with games, which is why they let people with disabilities in those areas play games to help them overcome the disability. So yeah, total bullshit.
Fight the truth all you want, but nothing you have said contradicts my statement, unless you think that skill growth is infinite. Leaving out how skill growth progression occurs may make your statement look like a contradiction but it's not a strong effort. Skill growth is a diminishing returns effect. I did no say people do not get better over time, I said that those with naturally high skills will consistently outperform and dominate players with lesser natural skill. People are not born equal; some are born better than others at certain things, with better natural traits for accomplishing certain tasks.
Let's use a nice example of Joe Average and Natural Nathan and compare them. Joe has a natural skill rating of 40, and Nathan has a natural rating of 60. Joe gets a 2 month head-start on Nathan at playing GenericFPS, learning the maps, what skill and gear combos are most effective, etc. So he now has a learned skill of 20, and we will say he improved his natural skill through practice by 5 points to a 45, so his total is a 65. He is now better than Nathan at GenericFPS. Let's go 2 more months down the line. Joe has improved his natural skills another 7 points through hard work, and learned a few more secrets about the game, improving his learned skill to 25. Nathan has spent the last two months catching up in terms of learned skill, but he has slowly been improving his natural skills as well. Now he has a natural of 65 and a learned of 20. This puts Nathan at 85 points of skill versus Joe's 77 points. While this is a little abstract, it proves my point without me having to bother to make graphs.
While the human brain has the capability to learn potentially infinite new things, human musculature and muscle memory have their limits of improving. People who are naturally more skilled at something and harness that skill will be superior to people who have average skill at something and harness their skill.
Cat Merc wrote:Kreayshawn Coruscanti wrote:Cat Merc wrote:You assume that the mentors are bad. This has been explained a gazillion times already so I won't bother to, but know this, we aren't lacking good players or mentors.
This is the same thing I've been hearing from PRO for 3+ years, yet I have never seen results. Personally I just want a good fight, should set some up with those good players like CBJ offered earlier :D I like how you removed the part where I explained that if the bunnies were in the exact same situation as us, you would probably lose. Except, we wouldn't, because as I stated, we pulled together a hit team in under 5 minutes, while you had 20 minutes of "oh ****" to get your best together. Try harder next time. |
Kreayshawn Coruscanti
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
170
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Posted - 2013.04.01 02:10:00 -
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CarlDub wrote:
Hello! Did we happen to meet back in MAG? I don't recognise that particular screen name, who may have you been?
No interest in picking fights; interested in knowing who's who when such claims are made.
Hi Carl, it's Fizzycandy :)
Cat Merc wrote:Kreayshawn Coruscanti wrote:Cat Merc wrote:You assume that the mentors are bad. This has been explained a gazillion times already so I won't bother to, but know this, we aren't lacking good players or mentors.
This is the same thing I've been hearing from PRO for 3+ years, yet I have never seen results. Personally I just want a good fight, should set some up with those good players like CBJ offered earlier :D I like how you removed the part where I explained that if the bunnies were in the exact same situation as us, you would probably lose. "You assume that the mentors are bad" And "This has been explained a gazillion times..." Are separate from each other. I removed it because it didn't matter with what I was responding to. Even if I left it in the quote, my response wouldn't have changed.. nitpick less and respond to my actual post more next time? Also, not too sure what you're trying to accomplish by saying "if the bunnies were in that situation they would lose" anyway. A big part of not losing is not putting yourself into bad situations in the first place, lol. (And as Veritas said, we pulled together a team better than yours in time anyway lol) |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
1032
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Posted - 2013.04.01 02:23:00 -
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Gunner Nightingale wrote:Moon Cricket Bob wrote:I smell many virgins in this thread. Swiiiiing and a miss. better luck next time
made me chuckle |
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CarlDub
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
9
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Posted - 2013.04.01 04:04:00 -
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Kreayshawn Coruscanti wrote:CarlDub wrote:
Hello! Did we happen to meet back in MAG? I don't recognise that particular screen name, who may have you been?
No interest in picking fights; interested in knowing who's who when such claims are made.
Hi Carl, it's Fizzycandy :)
Well I'll be. Fizzy, I thought we had chemistry; why the hate?! |
Cat Merc
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.04.01 04:06:00 -
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Moon Cricket Bob wrote:I smell many virgins in this thread. Omnomnom crickets. |
Cat Merc
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
319
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Posted - 2013.04.01 04:11:00 -
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Kreayshawn Coruscanti wrote:CarlDub wrote:
Hello! Did we happen to meet back in MAG? I don't recognise that particular screen name, who may have you been?
No interest in picking fights; interested in knowing who's who when such claims are made.
Hi Carl, it's Fizzycandy :) Cat Merc wrote:Kreayshawn Coruscanti wrote:Cat Merc wrote:You assume that the mentors are bad. This has been explained a gazillion times already so I won't bother to, but know this, we aren't lacking good players or mentors.
This is the same thing I've been hearing from PRO for 3+ years, yet I have never seen results. Personally I just want a good fight, should set some up with those good players like CBJ offered earlier :D I like how you removed the part where I explained that if the bunnies were in the exact same situation as us, you would probably lose. "You assume that the mentors are bad" And "This has been explained a gazillion times..." Are separate from each other. I removed it because it didn't matter with what I was responding to. Even if I left it in the quote, my response wouldn't have changed.. nitpick less and respond to my actual post more next time? Also, not too sure what you're trying to accomplish by saying "if the bunnies were in that situation they would lose" anyway. A big part of not losing is not putting yourself into bad situations in the first place, lol. (And as Veritas said, we pulled together a team better than yours in time anyway lol) You don't know the full list of complications. Time wasn't the biggest concern. But alright, you won. |
Kreayshawn Coruscanti
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
170
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Posted - 2013.04.01 04:21:00 -
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CarlDub wrote:Kreayshawn Coruscanti wrote:CarlDub wrote:
Hello! Did we happen to meet back in MAG? I don't recognise that particular screen name, who may have you been?
No interest in picking fights; interested in knowing who's who when such claims are made.
Hi Carl, it's Fizzycandy :) Well I'll be. Fizzy, I thought we had chemistry; why the hate?! I didn't think anything I said was hateful, moreso just responding to CBJ's claims |
Cat Merc
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
322
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Posted - 2013.04.01 04:35:00 -
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Kreayshawn Coruscanti wrote:CarlDub wrote:Kreayshawn Coruscanti wrote:CarlDub wrote:
Hello! Did we happen to meet back in MAG? I don't recognise that particular screen name, who may have you been?
No interest in picking fights; interested in knowing who's who when such claims are made.
Hi Carl, it's Fizzycandy :) Well I'll be. Fizzy, I thought we had chemistry; why the hate?! I didn't think anything I said was hateful, moreso just responding to CBJ's claims So question. How are you supposed to pronounce your name? |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
758
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Posted - 2013.04.01 04:35:00 -
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Dusters Blog wrote:Story: http://tinyurl.com/blwntcnWe have reached out to the PFBHz, TEST and PRO. But any comments from those involved would be appreciated. Dusters Blog, where we take three lines of news, and expand it into a whole page of nonsense. |
Cat Merc
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
322
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Posted - 2013.04.01 04:37:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Dusters Blog wrote:Story: http://tinyurl.com/blwntcnWe have reached out to the PFBHz, TEST and PRO. But any comments from those involved would be appreciated. Dusters Blog, where we take three lines of news, and expand it into a whole page of nonsense. Apparently, to transfer ISK you need to use a cruiser. I guess we never heard of the word bank? |
Kreayshawn Coruscanti
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
170
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Posted - 2013.04.01 05:48:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: So question. How are you supposed to pronounce your name?
however you want, as long as you go hard
but srsly it's cray-shawn |
slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
529
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Posted - 2013.04.01 05:52:00 -
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Kreayshawn Coruscanti wrote:Cat Merc wrote: So question. How are you supposed to pronounce your name?
however you want, as long as you go hardbut srsly it's fizzeh candy Unless you meant the Coruscanti part, but ain't nobody got time for that
Fixed |
Kreayshawn Coruscanti
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
170
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Posted - 2013.04.01 05:57:00 -
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slap26 wrote:Kreayshawn Coruscanti wrote:Cat Merc wrote: So question. How are you supposed to pronounce your name?
however you want, as long as you go hardbut srsly it's fizzeh candy Unless you meant the Coruscanti part, but ain't nobody got time for that Fixed hay gurl hayyy |
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2626
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Posted - 2013.04.01 06:43:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Dusters Blog wrote:Story: http://tinyurl.com/blwntcnWe have reached out to the PFBHz, TEST and PRO. But any comments from those involved would be appreciated. Dusters Blog, where we take three lines of news, and expand it into a whole page of nonsense. Apparently, to transfer ISK you need to use a cruiser. I guess we never heard of the word bank?
well hes gotta stay "in character and in lore" to make it interesting whereas tbqh i rea EN24 for the fights i really dont wanna read made up fantasy roleplay bs but alas thats the direction loldusters chose for their way of reporting on battles
our loss to STB was reported as our corp gettin robbed.......go figure........ |
Cat Merc
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
324
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Posted - 2013.04.01 07:18:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Dusters Blog wrote:Story: http://tinyurl.com/blwntcnWe have reached out to the PFBHz, TEST and PRO. But any comments from those involved would be appreciated. Dusters Blog, where we take three lines of news, and expand it into a whole page of nonsense. Apparently, to transfer ISK you need to use a cruiser. I guess we never heard of the word bank? well hes gotta stay "in character and in lore" to make it interesting whereas tbqh i rea EN24 for the fights i really dont wanna read made up fantasy roleplay bs but alas thats the direction loldusters chose for their way of reporting on battles our loss to STB was reported as our corp gettin robbed.......go figure........ I think they should write two pages for each event. One serious, where things are told as they are, and the second is where the role play stuff happens. |
Veritas Vitae
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
106
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Posted - 2013.04.01 15:59:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Dusters Blog wrote:Story: http://tinyurl.com/blwntcnWe have reached out to the PFBHz, TEST and PRO. But any comments from those involved would be appreciated. Dusters Blog, where we take three lines of news, and expand it into a whole page of nonsense. Apparently, to transfer ISK you need to use a cruiser. I guess we never heard of the word bank? well hes gotta stay "in character and in lore" to make it interesting whereas tbqh i rea EN24 for the fights i really dont wanna read made up fantasy roleplay bs but alas thats the direction loldusters chose for their way of reporting on battles our loss to STB was reported as our corp gettin robbed.......go figure........ I think they should write two pages for each event. One serious, where things are told as they are, and the second is where the role play stuff happens.
I did both in a single paragraph of highlights in that GNN thread. |
Lorena Dxun
The Red Guards
18
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Posted - 2013.04.01 18:51:00 -
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Veritas Vitae wrote:
I did both in a single paragraph of highlights in that GNN thread.
Which is why you should write for us ;D |
Veritas Vitae
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
106
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Posted - 2013.04.01 18:56:00 -
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Lorena Dxun wrote:Veritas Vitae wrote:
I did both in a single paragraph of highlights in that GNN thread.
Which is why you should write for us ;D
I take VISA, Mastercard, and Discover. No, I don't take American Express. |
Lorena Dxun
The Red Guards
18
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Posted - 2013.04.01 19:02:00 -
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Veritas Vitae wrote:Lorena Dxun wrote:Veritas Vitae wrote:
I did both in a single paragraph of highlights in that GNN thread.
Which is why you should write for us ;D I take VISA, Mastercard, and Discover. No, I don't take American Express.
That's a bummer because we only got an Amex with an unlimited spending limit.....
And ISK. We got lots of ISK. |
Orin the Freak
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
368
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Posted - 2013.04.01 20:17:00 -
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So, I wasn't there (I hate DUST currently, way too stagnant)
But what I gather is, we sniped (if you can call it that...) a contract from PRO (right place, right time)
Joe's excuse was He was drunk He was not drunk, but stupid He was not stupid, but impatient He made a mistake, and owns up to it Who cares about 300m anyway?
And then he sends his pet cat after us to damage control for him, because he has more important things to do. like, you know, run DUST's biggest and best corp evar?!
TBQH, I'm not buying any of this crap. Particularly the bit about how 300m is nothing. In this context, it's huge. Any denial thereof is purely damage control, and lies. If 300m was nothing, PRO would be putting up 100-300m contracts all day, in the off-chance they'd win. It was clearly a mistake, that much is obvious. There is no way CBJ has that much confidence in his band of merry men to bet that much money on 8 of them. The only person Joe has that much confidence in is himself, and I don't think he even believes himself to be that good anymore.
I don't care how you spin it, 300m for one contract is a lot. And however it came to be, If I were in PRO, I would definitely be questioning my leadership. Especially if I was one of the people who donated, assuming my ISK was going to a good cause.
300 large is obviously not a big deal in EVE, and even as far as DUST corp wallets go, it's still not un-recoverable. But for someone to be so asinine as to put up a contract for 300m, and the flub up the xfer, thats pretty huge.
Lets assume each corp battle costs PRO 15m. 300m is 20 corp battles worth of gear. Thats relatively significant. to deny that is proving it hurt. Did it break PRO's bank? no wai. I'm sure they have plenty of funds left, but it still hurt.
In closing, I'd like to say... LOL thx for the ISK PRO, we should do it again sometime. :) |
ContraBanJoe
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
85
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Posted - 2013.04.01 20:31:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote: TBQH, I'm not buying any of this crap. Particularly the bit about how 300m is nothing. In this context, it's huge. Any denial thereof is purely damage control, and lies. If 300m was nothing, PRO would be putting up 100-300m contracts all day, in the off-chance they'd win. It was clearly a mistake, that much is obvious. There is no way CBJ has that much confidence in his band of merry men to bet that much money on 8 of them. The only person Joe has that much confidence in is himself, and I don't think he even believes himself to be that good anymore.
Of course we would rather have not lost that 300 million isk, it would be a farce to think otherwise, but your assumptions are your own, and I won't call you down for them. If you think for a second there isn't regret over it, your wrong. That said, it has been recovered and everything is back in order.
I would encourage you to go back to whatever game your playing, cause coming here to be a troll, gets nobody anywhere.
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
227
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Posted - 2013.04.02 07:10:00 -
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Goon ReGnUM
Immobile Infantry
6
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Posted - 2013.04.02 13:46:00 -
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