Was in a match at Manus' last night, my team redlined the enemy.
They started sniping from the redline, and we all counter-sniped successfully.
Hit detection issues aside, if you can't kill a redline sniper, thats your fault, not the game's.

On to the proposal...
Adding one more objective to call the game, will not do anything but allow you to pub-stomp and move on to your next game. This will destroy any possibility of the losing team recovering.
The MCC has to blow. When it blows, then you can leave.
Yes, you win. It's clear there is no chance for the other team to win. So get your head down, and sit on an objective, for the remaining 3-7 mins.

Stop worrying about what they are doing in their red zone, and chill out at your objective until the MCC blows. Open your overview map, and track enemy movements. So you know when it' time to get up and fight.

The redzone is meant to be fought from. It's purpose IS to allow sniping and shooting, and recovery, deployment of any and all vehicles, etc.

It is meant to allow a losing team, the safety, time, and space necessary to mount a coordinated counter attack. If you get killed by someone, ANYONE, within a red line, that is your fault.

The red zone is NOT a demilitarized zone. Go near it and get blown up, that's your fault.

The MCC is meant to take damage at a definite and well-balanced rate. Get killed because you got impatient and ran under it to shoot your AR at it, again your fault.
Gameplay-wise, you have no business being at their red zone. There is no objective over there. So if you go over there and die... your fault.
Stand exposed at an objective, and get sniped from the redline, again, your fault.

You can't ask for a systemic change to reward foolish behavior on your part.
If you want a faster match, go to Ambush.





Read what you said here... VERY carefully.
Where is the systemic problem, requiring a systemic change?

Your complaint isn't with the System.
Your complaint is with stupid and/or uncoordinated players.

You cannot ask for a systemic change, for problems that are not systemic.

The only systemic problem here is the SP farming, and that is neither the red zone's fault, nor CCP's fault.

The red zone is functioning as intended.
The only real systemic fix that is necessary, is the one for the SP.
But good luck convincing CCP to do it, because the PLAYER'S are the ones that voted the current SP system into place to begin with.
(I did NOT vote for the current SP system. Myself, players in Imp, and COUNTLESS others warned that the current SP abuse would take place if it was implemented, but sadly democracy won in the end.)

Besides the SP, you really can't use the system to force players to do this or that. Waiting for an MCC to blow is hardly being forced to do anything. Again, you want a faster match, go to Ambush.

I wonder why to this day you are still harping on this? You and your boss for that matter.

In May we will have a new solution for the Battle Finder and hopefully one can filter out you and yours leaving the rest of us to kill each other in piece. Once we can Filter Out HAVs, Proto gear check back in and let us know how you are doing. I will be right here waiting with bated breath. As if.

All this QQ Kitten whining because Poor Little You are Bored with having crushed your opponent but they will not surrender and the game doesn't have a magic Kitten You button to force them to leave. I would guess if your side lost the first three objectives you would surrender instantly as the hand writing was on the wall announcing to all that Loser was being tattooed on your forehead. Right? It would only be fair or else your eventual victors might get bored and Whine here on the Forums with their QQ flooding the InterTubes.

Play Corp battles and be done with the pub stomping. Quit running Proto gear, slum a little.

Leave Battle and play someone else.

Quit Whining about Winning!

I personally don't like the idea of a team losing the ability to get out of being redlined altogether. I've actually been a part of a match where my team was redlined for a while and we were able to ninja our way out of it through smart uplink placement. We came back and won the match.


What about a different kind of solution than you guys are suggesting? How about if a team is redlined for a certain amount of time, then their whole team gets a big buff to help get them out of the redline and to give the dominating team more of a challenge? Just to throw out some numbers off the top of my head, what if after 2 minutes of team A holding all the objectives then for the next 2 minutes team B gets double shields and 50% more damage. You could give an in-game warning that team B is getting the buff so team A doesn't get hit all of a sudden by overpowered players. Then you don't have to do anything to the redline, team B will have more fun gaining objectives back (hopefully), and team A will have more fun facing a more challenging opponent.