Not much I can say concerning our performance in the battle. We were completely unprepared and heavily out gunned. We were just coming back from a previous corp battle against STB and had another planned to start in about 45 minutes. We were already a bit short for the corp battles we had planned in advance, even more so for an impromptu battle for most of the corp's wallet.

We pulled together the best we could, but we were plagued with setbacks. Morale was fairly low going into the game and only decreased as it went on.

I could make excuses all day, but I don't have any choice but to concede that they were better prepared, had better gear, and fielded better players. I'm not fooling myself or anyone else. We lost, nothing changes that.

Yes, albeit a very limited selection of them (plus the one kid who refused to leave). As I said, we were short at the time and would have fielded a very different team if everyone had been present. Personally, I probably would have been swapped out once we saw the map we were on if the situation was more under control.

talk about gettin funded for PC immediately
saved alot of ppl grinding ISK up LOL

Wow, just WOW.....

ContaBanJoe, who is known for being a paranoid, drunk finally does something that costs his clan; literally and figuratively by way of colossal blunder....and he gets a free pass?

No. No no no no no no no.

Anyone that is still in PRO after this clusterf*ck should be banned from playing in clans altogether because you obviously didn't have the common sense to join a good clan in the first place, and secondly, you're willing to put up with being involved with one of the most inept clan leaders I've ever seen in 12 plus years of online FPS gaming.

There is no "positive" spin to this. 630 million down the tubes? Pocket Lint? Really? Try to shluff it off all you like, but the fact remains that this is, and likely shall stand to be, the biggest blunder in DUST history and if the players of PRO are willing to put up with this, then what aren't they willing to put up with?

Have some self respect PRO members, step up in the world and join an NPC corp.

Answer? About 630 Million less than you had before.

Seriously, this is like asking Enron or GE to write your environmental policy so stalwart of a keeper of the PRO pocketbook you guys are

And you omitted the part where something like this is beyond inexcusable from such a longstanding clan leader like CBJ. "Have a talk with him".....so I guess that means your either serving or buying.

This isn't about the money or the mistake this is about Joe going around blaming fictional spies, friends, and everyone else for his mistake. This is about Joe threatening to break up PRO and his general freak out in open corp chat.
If a normal person makes a mistake he tries to fix it. If he can't he says he is sorry, mans up, and takes responsibility for it. Not go around acting like a paranoid tyrant. Everyone knows he doesn't trust anyone not even his own GD brother. He sees imaginary spies everywhere.

This seems to be contradicted a bit by these two posts.





BTW, we scrambled players into squads for this match 5 minutes before it happened, as well as had multiple offers for ringers from other corps who wanted to be a piece of this battle. Way to accept responsibility Shutter, and to all those other guys, keep on zerging that video! Reminds me of mangudiaforce spamming dislikes on MAG vids when he got butthurt that he couldn't TK his OIC.

To their statements it's pocket change, I find that hard to believe. Joe even came back on IRC and said that he was going to have to fund the lotto out of his own pocket.

I don't know the exact structure of PRO financing, but it sounds like the Joe, and maybe other Directors have a policy of keeping ISK in their pocket instead of the Corporation. It shows basic distrust of the other leaders, and I wouldn't be surprised if all the ISK goes *poof* once the leadership decides it's not worth the effort to try and defend their districts.

It's a warning falling on deaf ears as I suspect 80% of PRO members are in the Corporation because they got in game mail, and have no idea these forums even exist.

So from what I understand the conflict is resolved?

Joe paid out his own pocket for it all?

Just let it go. 600 mil is a big hit in eve, in dust it's epic. This will be remembered until the Dust settles, people will talk about it when we move on to the next game. So tip your hat and let it be.

the point then being if and when a tax comes why should members of PRO stick around if your leaders throw away their hard earned money because they were too drunk to count zeroes (i get it lack of commas is a *****)

so thats the best method you could come up with to transfer money b/w corps? Interception was never a forethought?

Meh you have the logistical support of a large alliance im sure there is someone there that can get you sorted.