...Really? Damage reduction is the best way to go? Even though a heavy has the highest amount of EHP in the game? Heavy =/= auto win button.

I can agree that heavies scale badly, but at the same time, introducing damage resistance isn't the way to go. There are other, much better ways to balance heavies.

Play Scout than tell me Heavies die fast for a scout.

Turning buff, slight speed buff, smaller hitbox, a buff to the armor plating modules, a buff to armor at the higher tiers... Anything but a damage reduction. Too much room for abuse.

Just saying all you guys whine how you die so fast in a gun fight. You have noooo idea what those words even mean.

Doesn't the uprising thing mention that dropsuit levels will give bonus's as well as unlocking the next tier so maybe they are implementing something like this. And if heavy's had added damage resistance the could become abusable if a logi +triage tool follows them, if the dam res is too high the repair tool might keep them at full armour or atleast make armour drop extremely slowly which would lead to complaints but then again what wont?

I honestly think the system is like most MMOs Rock paper Scissor kinda game play. Assaults lose to Logi, Heavies lose to Assault, Logi loses to Scout, Scout loses to Heavy. That's the way I feel about it. Although all roles can overcome each other.

Everything can kill everything. I seen Heavies kill Assaults all the time.

Even without the damage reduction, you still kill the assault in less time than he takes to kill you. 2 / 1.35 = 1.48 seconds. You still kill the assault 1.7 times faster than he takes to kill you.

There's a heavy in TF2, so the comparison is kind of easy to make. A heavy is best used (with a medic, yes, sure, and invulnerable, walking forward, but if alone...) when trying to hold a position. You let the enemy come to you, rather than you going to the enemy. It means they have less time to react, instead of the other way around, and you can dictate the terms of placement. Just like a machine gun nest. A heavy isn't a mobile heavy weapons platform, it's not a HAV. It isn't supposed to tank god-like levels of damage. One role it SHOULD be used for is suppression, and it works. If I see a heavy firing its HMG in my general direction, I run for cover.

Heavies take enough bullets to push through they have enough ammo to give covering fire when pushing objectives. They force enemies to shoot at them and Heavies have so much health it's a losing battle for defense any day. THAT is Heavies role to be support NOT to go around reenacting their favorite future Terminator scene.

It's because there is NO way in hell they can shoot at you and kill you before the Heavy can kill you easily and quickly unchecked.

Too bad that accumulating WP doesn't help your team to win.

Lol, now I know you're a noob. You are telling me you would try to cook a grenade while a Heavy is shooting at you? Just to ATTEMPT to try to kill the Logi that will not die with just one grenade? You would have to do this twice and the Heavy would have to SUCK not to be able to shoot at you while you are cooking a grenade. If you don't cook it they will just easily jump away from it. Get real man.

Logi WPs actually help the team to win. They provide ammo, they provide a place to spawn closer to the objectives, they provide healing to damaged units who can then run back into the fight at full health... But just killing someone doesn't particularly help win the game. I've been on the winning team when we've had 10 tickets to the enemy's 50. As an assault, I've hung back at D when the rest of my team were assaulting A, and fended off three enemies trying to cap the point. We then capped A, I died, but they didn't manage to cap D because some of my team arrived in time.

It's not all about WPs, it's not all about isk, it's not all about SP. It's about helping the team win. Frankly, I couldn't care if I died, just as long as I helped the team win. That's why I die so often - I run into situations alone, trying to salvage something from a situation my pub team completely ignored.

The LOGI is BEHIND the heavy not up the HEAVIES ass IF I get around the corner and cook a grenade and IF I hit the heavy AND the Logi whats to say they will both be dumb enough to fall for that trick twice in a row? You are giving these roles no credit you are making them out to be brainless fools just because you would like to be able to run around fearlessly with no worry of being killed by anything short of a platoon.

I was simply stating WHY everybody attacks the Heavy over the Logi. I should be able to 1v1 all roles which is how the game is made. YOU are the one crying that Heavy should = autowin 1v1 nomatter what you face and that is just r3t4rd3d

Lance, I explained it in a post above. Area consolidation. You send in the light troops first, then you send in the heavy troops to secure. Sort of like in, you know, real war - you don't send in the heavy armor first. You send in the troops to scout out and clear. Any area where a heavy is stationary is a defensible position. If a machine gun starts shooting at you (especially with 400 rounds in the mag) you take cover.

So you're mad CCP didn't make the suit you chose OP just because you figure it should be? So now you support all these crazy threads trying to get it buffed so can finally be OP? Sounds pretty lame to me.

I am just saying you guys all cry that you should be able to beat all 1v1 you know how dumb that sounds? It is SKILL based if you were better than the guy you would of killed him.

Heavy infantry can be any infantry with a heavy machine gun. A LMG is easy enough to cart around, but doesn't provide the same oomph as a HMG, which is a heavily defensive tool. You don't take a HMG into battle, you set it up and let the enemy come to you. See WW1, see the Maginot Line, see D-Day, see pretty much any attrition warfare, and you'll see what I mean.

And you're completely wrong about the armor. Look up the Challenger 2 tank, and look up incidents. Only something like two or three have been destroyed, and one was friendly fire.

But the point is that heavies are best suited to area consolidation and suppression of the enemy. You're slow for a reason - you're not meant to charge an enemy defensive line.

So you're saying a guy wearing barely any armor shouldn't be able to literally run circles around a guy carrying a 100 lb gun and a heavy ass armored suit? 2 can play that game.

Can we get you anything else? Perhaps fireballs that come out your hands for 3k splash dmg and 10k direct hit? JetPack so you can fly above the map raining these fireballs down?

I beleive CCP has already said that heavies will be getting a buff in uprising, just not said what it was.

Least the threads of you guys whining how under powered you guys are would be 50% shorter if they did this.

Personely I don't think scouts should show up on Radar >>;;;;