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Posted - 2013.03.26 18:58:00 -
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Making heavys 50/50 with assults is just dumb, I would rather the suit cost more isk and sp and own in its roles.
God CCP why you hate heavys so much? I mean you made them to fit a role of heavy combat specialist, now they are just going to get lamer and lamer.
Sadly unless you go FG all the way the class does not seem to get the sort of freedom to do new interesting things well the other classes get.
Assaults are by far going to be the best class to play by the way things are going. |
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Posted - 2013.03.26 19:10:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Rifter7 wrote:i like to think when they say a heavy and assault go 50/50 that they're taking into account the ranges the heavy dominates in and the ranges the assault player will outdamage them... and inbetween those two it's a tossup, rather than an assault suit shitting on them more often than not. They haven't said they'll make it like that. It's just me speculating they'll make the Heavy and Assault suits be 50/50 since they're making them equal in price.
what about equal SP?
And why would that make them Equal? Gonna give me faster speed and equipment slots? and a smaller hit box?
better to make the suits unique like they used to be then ground them down to the lowest common denominator.
At this rate TF2 is gonna have more depth...... |
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Posted - 2013.03.26 20:21:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:There's been MANY threads out there discussing balance of heavies. Some saying they're OP, other like myself saying the class is slowly becoming a joke.
Here's my main concern with the class. The Heavy Proto suit = B Series suit + 1 high slot.
So our proto has a total of 3 high slots and 2 low slots. OK. The price for this suit is 246k ISK. OK. Now, what's the motivation to go for this suit? 1 high slot? What's that? 66 more HP with a complex extender? 1 loldmg mod? It's nothing, so there's no real reason to have a proto heavy suit unless you wanna look pimped.
Here's my point, how is it fair that heavies are basically stuck using Advanced suits, while other classes strut around in their superior proto suits? All other classes, have FAR superior proto suits, for the fraction of the price of the inferior proto heavy.
So not only is our suit bad, it costs more. Not enough our HMG's costs more than Assault Proto suits? Nope, give us a useless Proto suit, and make it so expensive that it's not worth using.
You can say what you want about heavies, but you can't say with a straight face that it's fair we're using an Advanced suit vs Proto suits...AND ontop of that people are STILL complaining about heavies.
As someone said another thread, if we get to reset our SP, I'm taking ALL my SP out and putting it into Assault or Logi. it IS unfair, but mob opinion usually wins out, and therefore we got shafted....HARD i'm holding out hope that the new titan suit has a minuimum of 2000 EHP UNMODIFIED (its description says its run is a current heavies walk) if this new update doesn't UN-shaft us, i don't know what i'm going to do.....
I suppose as things stand right now I would probably cry and take the respec like that girl in requiem for a dream took that A to A job ..... but I am holding out as well for a heavy rebuild and for the TITAN class. Its my obi wan of dust.
The problem that worries me is that if the titan is any good, players are going to run headlong into him and get eaten and we will be back where the reg heavy is now.
And if it sucks and costs x5 sp or more to spec into no one will use them but people who dont know better, who fall into the trap and dont know better.
Does they heavy class have to become a wasteland in order for it to be made fertile again?
I Feel like all the heavys are stuck below a glass ceiling and the water is slowly rising up on us to finish us off. Guess we will see who can hold their breath the longest? |
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Posted - 2013.03.27 10:29:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:I think its funny how all the heavies went from "Heavies are Fine" against the blueberry whiners with 125 shield militia fits, now that those blueberries are in Protos, heavies are whining about how "Not fine" they are being killed by them.
How long did that take? 2 months ?
I think if you looked around (did a search) you would find alot of the vets commented on how it was a issue back then and even before players saw the issue and screamed we where talking about it and how in 2 months we would be obsolete. This was the same issue we had in the last build, nothing has actually changed heavy wise. CCP still has not done anything about it.
We where all hoping CCP would get off its butt and fix the issue, they never have. CCP still has not balanced early SP class power disparities and class bell curves.
check through my old posts and exmaple cores and howdoesthattastes old posts and you will see we where trying to get them to fix it before day 1 of open beta.
this is a CCP fault for ignoring the issue, not one of heavys keeping it under wraps |
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