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Illuminaughty-696 wrote:

Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:

Illuminaughty-696 wrote:

Not at all. They are finally starting to become one of many valid ways to play as opposed to easy mode. Heavies are, and should be, a support class that thrives in a squad, rather than alone. It should need others to cover its flanks, protecting against its weakness (lack of mobility). Sure, a squad of heavies has little in the way of weakness, but that's because they work together, supporting one another.

So again, to summarize - no.

Edit:

And I still don't see how, after months and months, CCP hasn't fixed the frikkin' stacking issues. It's not that complicated.

How is having an HMG that can't shoot nothing but spitballs at range, a support class? We get 0 WP's for "supporting" and rely on killing to make ISK. So for a class that can't kill properly cuz it's being outclassed in its strong area, CQC, how are heavies suppose to last?

Heavies will go extinct, at least the HMG heavies. We have a useless Proto suit, while every other class at least have a use for theirs. So it's basically Adv. heavy suit vs Proto every other suit. That's fair? That's how heavies are suppose to be?

People really think that heavies having a useless Proto suit is the way to go? If that's the case, then say goodbye to the heavy HMG class.

You're a bit like a politician there, Lance, grabbing one word and choosing to misinterpret it. Support in this case was clearly indicated as: heavies shouldn't be out and about soloing the world, they should need a a squad, and better it. That should be true of all classes.

Further, you assume the only way to play a heavy is with a HMG. That was NOT the discussion begun by the OP, but heavies in general. You do, however, clarify by saying HMG heavies, specifically, at least. Then you mention the heavy proto issue. These are both valid points. HMG and heavy proto suits have been debated many, many times. There are definite balance issues there. Again, however, not what the OP was asking. He asked if they were obsolete, and the answer remains no. Do they need adjustments? Abso-frikkin-lutely. Then again, this whole game needs adjustments.


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Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 451	Posted - 2013.03.26 21:40:00 - [1] - Quote Illuminaughty-696 wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Illuminaughty-696 wrote: Not at all. They are finally starting to become one of many valid ways to play as opposed to easy mode. Heavies are, and should be, a support class that thrives in a squad, rather than alone. It should need others to cover its flanks, protecting against its weakness (lack of mobility). Sure, a squad of heavies has little in the way of weakness, but that's because they work together, supporting one another. So again, to summarize - no. Edit: And I still don't see how, after months and months, CCP hasn't fixed the frikkin' stacking issues. It's not that complicated. How is having an HMG that can't shoot nothing but spitballs at range, a support class? We get 0 WP's for "supporting" and rely on killing to make ISK. So for a class that can't kill properly cuz it's being outclassed in its strong area, CQC, how are heavies suppose to last? Heavies will go extinct, at least the HMG heavies. We have a useless Proto suit, while every other class at least have a use for theirs. So it's basically Adv. heavy suit vs Proto every other suit. That's fair? That's how heavies are suppose to be? People really think that heavies having a useless Proto suit is the way to go? If that's the case, then say goodbye to the heavy HMG class. You're a bit like a politician there, Lance, grabbing one word and choosing to misinterpret it. Support in this case was clearly indicated as: heavies shouldn't be out and about soloing the world, they should need a a squad, and better it. That should be true of all classes. Further, you assume the only way to play a heavy is with a HMG. That was NOT the discussion begun by the OP, but heavies in general. You do, however, clarify by saying HMG heavies, specifically, at least. Then you mention the heavy proto issue. These are both valid points. HMG and heavy proto suits have been debated many, many times. There are definite balance issues there. Again, however, not what the OP was asking. He asked if they were obsolete, and the answer remains no. Do they need adjustments? Abso-frikkin-lutely. Then again, this whole game needs adjustments. No. Heavies are obsolete. Every other suit class is better at getting kills and better ISK cost/benefits. Heavy AR = delete Heavy laser= delete heavy HMG= delete heavy forge gun= delete I get better survivability with proto swarms on Assault or scouts. Heavy pizza= ok pizza is good. Heavy twinkies= ok twinkies are good If there were a trade in Market then BAAM!!! there goes all the heavy suits and weapons that were salvage in favor of more usable Logi/Assault/Scout suits and better light weapons. If there were a respect option then watch many heavies go Assault, Scout or Logi. But then with heavies obsolete then whats the point of a Logi repper?? Better with revives and nanos. Heavy suits, weapons and SP costs need better balancing. Anywho back to doing more scout loadouts.