A bit radical even for me. You want 2 more slots, and then a 150% damage bonus in CQC?

A bit radical even for me. You want 2 more slots, and then a 150% damage bonus in CQC?

so how many slots do proto heavies have now??

so how many slots do proto heavies have now??

thought all protos had 2 low slots. doesnt that suit cost 250K? youre complaining because u like less slots? im confused.

Not at all. They are finally starting to become one of many valid ways to play as opposed to easy mode. Heavies are, and should be, a support class that thrives in a squad, rather than alone. It should need others to cover its flanks, protecting against its weakness (lack of mobility). Sure, a squad of heavies has little in the way of weakness, but that's because they work together, supporting one another.

So again, to summarize - no.

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And I still don't see how, after months and months, CCP hasn't fixed the frikkin' stacking issues. It's not that complicated.

Not at all. They are finally starting to become one of many valid ways to play as opposed to easy mode. Heavies are, and should be, a support class that thrives in a squad, rather than alone. It should need others to cover its flanks, protecting against its weakness (lack of mobility). Sure, a squad of heavies has little in the way of weakness, but that's because they work together, supporting one another.

So again, to summarize - no.

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And I still don't see how, after months and months, CCP hasn't fixed the frikkin' stacking issues. It's not that complicated.

How is having an HMG that can't shoot nothing but spitballs at range, a support class? We get 0 WP's for "supporting" and rely on killing to make ISK. So for a class that can't kill properly cuz it's being outclassed in its strong area, CQC, how are heavies suppose to last?

Heavies will go extinct, at least the HMG heavies. We have a useless Proto suit, while every other class at least have a use for theirs. So it's basically Adv. heavy suit vs Proto every other suit. That's fair? That's how heavies are suppose to be?

People really think that heavies having a useless Proto suit is the way to go? If that's the case, then say goodbye to the heavy HMG class.

I have no problem with heavy as it currently stands. I'm fine with the slots, the PG, the damage and even to some extent the cost. What really alarms me in recent developments about my favorite class, however, is that it's being made obsolete by the loss of it's unique weapons. The Gallente Plasma cannon is set to overtake the forge gun and there's talk of making the HMG available to everyone. To me you could keep the heavy costs, slots et al the same if only you could add more unique weapons for the heavy (a flamethrower and arc cannon would be a start) instead, heavy weapons are being made phased out altogether.

How is having an HMG that can't shoot nothing but spitballs at range, a support class? We get 0 WP's for "supporting" and rely on killing to make ISK. So for a class that can't kill properly cuz it's being outclassed in its strong area, CQC, how are heavies suppose to last?

Heavies will go extinct, at least the HMG heavies. We have a useless Proto suit, while every other class at least have a use for theirs. So it's basically Adv. heavy suit vs Proto every other suit. That's fair? That's how heavies are suppose to be?

People really think that heavies having a useless Proto suit is the way to go? If that's the case, then say goodbye to the heavy HMG class.

When will people realize that they want the heavy/HMG combo nerfed so bad that nobody will ever use it? That's the end-game of crying so hard about heavies, as well as the end-game of crying so hard over tanks.

The assault bunnies don't want people to use anything but assault gear.

How is having an HMG that can't shoot nothing but spitballs at range, a support class? We get 0 WP's for "supporting" and rely on killing to make ISK. So for a class that can't kill properly cuz it's being outclassed in its strong area, CQC, how are heavies suppose to last?

Heavies will go extinct, at least the HMG heavies. We have a useless Proto suit, while every other class at least have a use for theirs. So it's basically Adv. heavy suit vs Proto every other suit. That's fair? That's how heavies are suppose to be?

People really think that heavies having a useless Proto suit is the way to go? If that's the case, then say goodbye to the heavy HMG class.

You're a bit like a politician there, Lance, grabbing one word and choosing to misinterpret it. Support in this case was clearly indicated as: heavies shouldn't be out and about soloing the world, they should need a a squad, and better it. That should be true of all classes.

Further, you assume the only way to play a heavy is with a HMG. That was NOT the discussion begun by the OP, but heavies in general. You do, however, clarify by saying HMG heavies, specifically, at least. Then you mention the heavy proto issue. These are both valid points. HMG and heavy proto suits have been debated many, many times. There are definite balance issues there. Again, however, not what the OP was asking. He asked if they were obsolete, and the answer remains no. Do they need adjustments? Abso-frikkin-lutely. Then again, this whole game needs adjustments.

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No.
Heavies are obsolete.
Every other suit class is better at getting kills and better ISK cost/benefits....

There's your problem right there. This game won't be about 'getting kills' for much longer.

Funny for all the complaints, Squad chat always lights up with 'Heavy!' whenever we see one. I don't yell 'Assault!' when I see somebody with an AR come around the corner.

Two words: Tactical Role

Everything in this game is basically support for Assault AR (just like in real life), sorry but its true.