Cool story Brah.

Well that's my final straw with this game, guess what Ccp nerfed tanks again!

Of course only armor tanks so swarms and AV grenades deal more explosive damage.

Really? Just really? Did no one already notice a advanced swarm with 3 complex damage mod could 2 shot kill an armor tank as is??? Through dual rep and dual hardners?

well ccp ban me, Cuz this is bullshit. I've been here since day 1 of the closed beta and you only suck AR **** it seems. And give anal to the tankers.

Where do you imagine this game in 10 years? You've already Lost alot of player base, alot of potential players and the vets due t some serious garbage of nit listening to your player base, or simply trying time stop the tears by harming the rest -f the player base. There's not 1 thing in this game with a good balance as is, it's been messed up to many times and passed over by the dev teams.

All I gotta say is, this game has flopped. Gj.

Also sorry GM Vegas and Hercules for having to read and lock this, maybe I'll see you Eve side sometime.

BTW on my phone......figure out spelling errors hehe

TL:DR version = wouaaa wouaaa wu wu wouaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!! :P

Someone give this merc a bottle!

'Darkside' CBR7 Swarm Launcher Your Name Here

*Rage Quit*

lol

Actually militia 1 shotted me today with everythibg running and full health.

seriously? Now your just makin stuff up...

seriously? Now your just makin stuff up...

Test it brah. Go ahead, pull out the militia swarms. See the difference.

What did the nerf consist of? I'm thinking it was a buff to AV not nerf to tanks

I'm. Guessing either damage buff across the board for AV or efficiency rating for swarms and AV nades on armor went up to 150+%

Anyone know which?

Btw aim a swarm at armor.. It'll tell the efficiency... I think..

Cool story Brah.

Ya well if they had one. I'm fairly drunk atm too so it's not going to help my case.

But ya man, when all ur sp is in something and they just keep nerfing it. I mean cmon 2 ton, will u need a bottle come the heavy nerf?

So you're happy about losing another player? Do you not care that this game is going to be ostracized by everyone, when they see that the only thing anybody uses are assault suits and guns, with the occasional logibro thrown in? No scouts sneaking around hacking stuff quickly, putting down uplinks, flanking with shotguns. No drivers of any type because dropship and LAV physics are terrible and tanks nerfed to irrelevancy? Nobody using a heavy, because the forge gun won't be needed because nobody will use vehicles, and nobody using the HMG because the heavy suit is made of paper mache. Do you really want that to happen? Because by doing nothing, you're going to help cause this game to fail before it can ever get started.

So you're happy about losing another player? Do you not care that this game is going to be ostracized by everyone, when they see that the only thing anybody uses are assault suits and guns, with the occasional logibro thrown in? No scouts sneaking around hacking stuff quickly, putting down uplinks, flanking with shotguns. No drivers of any type because dropship and LAV physics are terrible and tanks nerfed to irrelevancy? Nobody using a heavy, because the forge gun won't be needed because nobody will use vehicles, and nobody using the HMG because the heavy suit is made of paper mache. Do you really want that to happen? Because by doing nothing, you're going to help cause this game to fail before it can ever get started.

Yep, pretty much summed it up there tonto.

Aw well....
Back to shields. Wait.... I forgot about the forge guns.

Died early this evening to an armor tank (Level 1 Gallente) who was using the militia missile launcher of all things. Unfortunately my main AV being the Assault Forge Gun didn't help. Not that the AFG is great on Gunlogis either when they are well tanked and the pilots maintain decent combat situational awareness.

If Swarms are actually going to start being a threat maybe it is time to remove them from the free AV gear option.

Full squad to prove it. Metro was losing tanks left and right. Talk to any tanker right now anywhere. especially armor. We got nerfed.

i +1 this i think the only free av option should be something along the lines of AV nad with a mass driver as the main weapon

but then how would new players learn about av gun's and what not ?

U know what I find funny.

I know I know it's a beta.

But do you know how many resets we had in closed beta? Aaaaalot.

Then rolls up open beta, ccp says, OK mercs no more resets, careful with them skill points.

7 Mill dedicated sp later,

BOOM got ya, sp nerfed. Got all 7 mill of that and put u silly armor tanks 3 months behind the rest of the mercs....haha.

I have been in allot of betas and alphas,

I have seen allot of crying wolf in my time

I have yet to see any sort of actual information on games that "failed" in beta

Some sort of statistical analysis on that would be something I love to see.

Just do a search online for "games that failed in beta because of the beta" You wont find anything, if you do let me know.

damn that sucks sorry for your loss Sniper ftw XD jk

this is for you.

http://r26.imgfast.net/users/2616/20/11/10/avatars/4022-81.jpg

this is for you.

http://r26.imgfast.net/users/2616/20/11/10/avatars/4022-81.jpg

they'll fix this stuff later anyways. everyone got butthurt about the nano..uhh nanofun users, but ccp ended up making the right call and left the right ships powerful. same with the ewar stuff and whatever else got nerfed eve side.

its still a beta, and stuff needs to get added.. so for now just adapt. there's no point in getting mad dude, they're still figuring stuff out too.

well man instead of complaining, why not set your ego aside, stop complaining and actually try asking other tankers what they do to counter them. theres definitely more info that everyone can learn.

Mmmmmhm. I could just go gunnlogi.

But it's the principal.

Ccp should make an announcement before making balance changes.

So we don't waste isk or sp.

Personally they've such a fine job with balance thus far,

Missiles, rail, AR tier's, AV grenades, shield tank mods vs armor tank mods, keep list piling...


That they should just leave balance as is and stamp retail on the cover before it becomes,

Dust Fairy Tales 514, World of Unicorns

well.. i'm by no means the best tanker, but every time i've lost my tank to swarms i knew immediately that i was my fault.

why? i'm not saying you fall victim to this stuff but it's usually because i wasn't with the smurfs, i got cocky and overextended or i didn't have an escape route or some cover to hide behind.

come on man, if you're as good as you say you are i really don't know why your bitching about some nubs with swarms. just step it up dude.

lol my bad man but it was funny to watch from a side view :P I still cant figure out how that happened when i saw that heck i even saw it with my own eyes in that game lol still hardley bieleve it myself i still dont know how they curved around the walls to hit you when your broke the los ( line of sight)

or keep crying. have a nice day.

lol i guess he considers pointing facts out crying lol who knows

We've only said we won't reset your SP to 0. We haven't said anything about not refunding your SP and allowing you to respec. That option is still on the table prior to release if we feel it will be worthwhile.

Yes, I am in the girls bathroom, sobbing in the stall....jeeesh dread, just Cuz I texted u I needed more kleenex 10 min ago.....Hey...wtf
Wheres my kleenex???

problem fixed maybe lol

XD wtf you talking about i was talking about the other guy you wanker

wtf ............

get the hell on drunk driving in a tank XD i fear for the reds in the way

now you know I have over 200 million Isk if ya need some just ask lol like i said Sniper ftw XD

Edited.

Cuz I'm to drunk.

Long story short armor tanks were nerfed and explosive AV does more damage to armor now.

Can't confirm this, was worried to drop my armor tank after reading your post, but from my testing I took about 700 dmg from a militia swarm (I can't believe how long i had to sit and watch the nublet get a lock).

700ish dmg seems about normal to me for my tank.

ok 2 points:

1. I'm skeptical right off the bat, because I havent heard any, any chatter about nerfing armor/buffing exp AV- where's the evidence for this?

2. *ahem* I did just happen to lose a Madruger like 10 minutes ago.......
-after getting one swarm bringing my shields down, in a match that only had two other players in it- I activated my two hardeners- and start scanning for reds. zooming in I see incoming swarms and activate my repper,

and then no more madruger.

lows = best rep, best 180 plate, 2x best hardeners + dmg mod.

Cannot wait to fit proto packed AV nades so I can harvest the tears of bitter tank vets.

I bet 4 damage mods in a B type Assault proto suit & Proto Swarm = woosh no more 'any' Tank, they should fix stacking but on all the mods, tanks included.

+1 :)

Same here, must suck seeing that carefully sculpted KDR drop like a brick when they reach 0 ISK in their wallets and now have to run militia Assault Suit fits vs Proto Veterans with Duvolles....or quit.

My guess is they quit :p

K sure, but---------- you just dreamed up some hypothetical max damage scenario in an armchair setting. This happened within the first 2minutes of an ambush with 2 players on the other side, maybe 6 with randoms on the other side at the time of (low dramatic voice) destruction

Edited.

Cuz I'm to drunk.

Long story short armor tanks were nerfed and explosive AV does more damage to armor now.

I've got no numbers but i can say without a bit of doubt this is BS armor tanks haven't been nerfed they aren't taking anymore dmg from explosives since the build began.

So you're happy about losing another player? Do you not care that this game is going to be ostracized by everyone, when they see that the only thing anybody uses are assault suits and guns, with the occasional logibro thrown in? No scouts sneaking around hacking stuff quickly, putting down uplinks, flanking with shotguns. No drivers of any type because dropship and LAV physics are terrible and tanks nerfed to irrelevancy? Nobody using a heavy, because the forge gun won't be needed because nobody will use vehicles, and nobody using the HMG because the heavy suit is made of paper mache. Do you really want that to happen? Because by doing nothing, you're going to help cause this game to fail before it can ever get started.

same
my tank still feels the same so yea no ninja nerf OP

Actually militia 1 shotted me today with everythibg running and full health.

One-shot with a Precision Strike maybe...