I know freedom, that is more than any Caldari will every know. A people cannot and will not prosper with closed minded totalitarianism standing over them telling them how to think and act. Willing to die? More like brainwashed to die. You live to obey, you think you have a choice but you don't. You are no more than an animal made for slaughter and that is what you will get. You will see the error of your ways and pay the price for you cowardice.

Too much shouting of I'm right and you're wrong. Too much "For the State!" and "For the Federation!" In the end it's just us on the battlefield as contract killers. After a few days I lost track of who I was fighting for and just fought.

Pain. Death. Rebirth. Rinse and repeat. No escape clause in the loop.

The only thing that mattered was the brother-in-arms at my side and the paycheck for my retirement fund.

FOR THE REPUBLIC !!!

I spent the first day sabotaging the Caldari forces as much as possible. I worked behind enemy lines hacking supply chains to delivery countless LAVs. If I found snipers or scouts behind cover I'd duct tape a grenade to their shorts and set it off. I'd run head first into the enemy with nothing but knives just to use up clone reserves. When I did find myself with Gallente forces I'd work hard reviving and repairing.

After that I don't remember much until I looked up and saw the smoldering remains of the Shiigeru.

With all the Pah! Bah!

I'm picturing a bunch of hairy dwarves arguing over mugs of mead.

yeah roleplaying ftw!

I am the terror that flaps in the night, i am the neurosis of posters that cry nerfs, i am the elastic band that spins afk players, i am darkwing duck.

You violated the laws of the very Federation you helped found! Then drowned a half-million people. Then in the original battle for Caldari Prime you killed 20 million innocent citizens by dropping a carrier on them. You had that Titan crash coming and you know it!

If that is your stance then those aboard the Ishukone station had it coming to. Even if it was the broker who did it...

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Amarr_VS_Minmatar

yeah they look pretty inferior, huh..

isn't there a level 4 somewhere that your caldari fleet can do?

No you won't because you will twist and distort the truth until it is a heap of deception and bile. The worst part is no matter what I do or how many of your kind I send to the biomass you just come back. I guess the only way to win is through the application of pain and to drain your wallet.

Hedonist? Coming from clone that only knows what he is told. I live my life knowing that all clones want to be free but some just don't know how to think. What you call hedonism I call patriotism. You will learn through education on the battlefield and you will have time to absorb the knowledge you have gained while you wait for the painful respawn and quick death that you know so well.

We will at least have a reason to die for. We are as immortal as our beliefs and as strong as our convictions. The Caldari will not take the planet back and cannot win on the ground. The fallacies you are trying to pass off to the masses will not take hold and will drag the Caldari people down further into oppression and destitute. Enjoy your mud hole you call a planet. If it were not for the honorable Gallente held hostage I would support total destruction of the planet and it habitants.

The war has just begun and soon all who stand in the way of our vision will be rolled over into the biomass with the rest of your brothers. We will draw no quarter nor back down in the face impudence and terror tactics.

the caldari citizens know their place and would happily die for their homeworld.

if the gallente are unwilling to die for their beliefs and actions, they should never have started this conflict

I would rather take the ISK and walk away rather than support a group that threatens with genocide on billions of Gallente lives, while the other side disregarded all safety and shot a Titan that basically made Caldari Prime unhabitable for centuries. I also find it ironic that you support the Caldari State, the same people who tried to kill all dropclone soldiers, including you two. Sure, you can blame it all on Heth, but that doesn't fix the immense amount of irony found in your posts.

While the Caldari as a people may not be evil one can not overlook the fact they willingly let Heth take office (I know the broker helped but still.) and now everyone in the cluster is paying for it.

With the next set of military equipment and weapons on the way I am wallet building so my people can slaughter the tyrannous scum occupying our planet. When my heavy merc pops out of a cloaked position you will regret opposing Gallente virtues.

i have been fighting down there.

and no price is too high to keep our homeworld.

i don't condone heths actions, but neither will i stand by as the gallente attempt to steal my homeworld once again.

and i have no problem with gallente deaths on caldari prime, they should never have been there in the first place.

they accepted their fate the moment they landed on OUR homeworld

Heth is a murder and a war monger. The Caldari should have just left the planet in peace that way they would not leave in pieces.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/dust-begins-to-clear-full-extent-of-shiigeru-impact-now-clear/

Read this news article - if you can read - and you will see that your grasp on the planet might not be what you think.

"Analysis of contact reports from both parties suggests that the Provist occupation force maintains a shaky grasp on most districts."

The words shaky and most are the two things that jump out at me. You will learn in time to fear or respect us; I don't care which but it will be one of them.

My peoples will fight to the last clone to keep OUR planet in OUR system. We should rename the planet to start the eradication of the Caldari cur that wish to control it. You will be the example of failure and the punch line of jokes more so than you are now. Freedom.

no one wants gallente slaves, they are weak willed and would die in bondage, entirely unsutable for anything but quafe production

Did you know that the Caldari were once Gallente? The Caldari weren't happy with the way Gallente ran things, so they decided to secede from the union, which lead into a 100 year long war. Only when the Gallente made first contact with the Amarr did them both decide to negotiate a peace treaty as the Amarr were a bigger threat. After that Caldari Prime never officially seceded from the Gallente Federation, so you have no basis on the claim that it was your planet. It's as much Gallente as it is Caldari.

And even if you managed to win the ground battles, the statistical difference was only around 7%, a hardly significant margin. And for what exactly did you win? To gain a planet now completely unhabitable because of both sides acting like idiots? To brag about how kills you made to regain your 'homeplanet'? I have to remind you, there were also Caldari living down on the planet. Your State's actions lead to the death of all those people too, and now they don't have a place they called home because both sides are so stubborn they do not think of the consequenes their actions lead to.

If you believe gaining an insignificant statistical victory over a piece of now unhabitable land while in the heart of Gallente territory is a good thing, then you truly are hopeless. Not to mention the billions of Gallente and Caldari civilians killed in the crossfire.

Congratulations, you gained nothing but countless civilian losses and an unhabitable planet in the long run.

We did not want to see millions die at the hands of a mad man but we had to act. None of the civilians will be forgotten and our mercs are immortal. With the death of our friends and families fresh in our mind and with passion for freedom in our hearts we will purge our planet of tyrants and their mind less clones and rename our planet to better suit it as the beacon of liberty that is the Gallente people.

Your are finally correct about something. Your lies and half truths do not change me. Your misinformation will not change the facts or your slow down the fall of your military. Your clones will be recycled and your ships salvaged, your leaders will be held accountable for their murderous actions and your peoples will fall deeper into disparity. Enjoy your new life of hiding from our mercs on the ground and your fleets of space debris will fall from orbit like the titan that could not endure the might of the Gallente Federation.

It will be like flies buzzing around a pile of mini slaver dung per normal. We all know what happens to flies and how long they live.

Insults? Truths are all I speak. We are in the first few hours of light and when the star rises high into the sky you all will see the error of your ways and the ineptitude of your forces. We fight for freedom and liberty, we fight for pride and justice and we fight for our citizens who have been brutalized by evil governments and a military who cannot win in direct combat. We take systems in FW, pop ships and pods, destroy lauded ships and decimate ground forces. Maybe you will see the light of freedom and join our cause or maybe you will just see the light and walk towards it. Either way it will be one less merc I have to melt with my laser rifle.

no, pretty sure he's mad

he SHOT US!!

also is abusing his powers, which doesn't help

i support the state, not the one running it. as i believe in our meritocratic roots, if our leader is not performing as he/she should be, i believe they must be removed....... permanently

Since obviously no one here is willing to even try listening to reason and negotiate a peace, I am not going to even bother knocking some sense to you lunatics, Gallente and Caldari. I will address Tiberius and Harkon briefly though:



Learn your history, then your non-sensical and stupid arguments might at least have some credit.



Patriots of the Caldari state? Are you really that naive? Most of the civilians down on the planet had nothing to do with the war. Heck, some of them even had friends and family on the Gallente side. And now you're claiming that they're happy that this stupid war ruined their homeplanet for good, not to mention that some, even all of their friends and family being killed due to this war. You should really walk up to them and say that they are now true patrions, I'm sure that will really comfort them.

And do I really have to remind you that Heth ordered the Shiigeru to point it's doomsday weapon to the planet to exterminate all Gallente, regardless of Caldari casualties? You left the Gallente no choice, either stand aside and let the Caldari exterminate all Gallente on Caldari Prime, or do something to prevent further disasters like this. I'm not saying that the act of aggression was the right thing to do, there could have been diplomatic negotiations to prevent this tragedy. What I'm saying is that you forced the Gallente to act, don't pretend to be surprised that they decided to attack.

And how many times do I have to tell you that your so called 'victory' down on the planet results into nothing but more death and suffering? Gallente have their fleet occupying the space above Caldari Prime, and the Caldari forces down on the planet are completely cut off from any support or supplies. i'm telling you again, whatever victory you are celebrating is going to be very brief when the Gallente start their siege.

Enjoy your pointless bickering and nationalism.

Slave keepers will be crushed like insects. I have no use for your kind of human.

Remember your place, Harkon. We are not slavers, we are employers.

We do a few things well. To bad one has to be war.

lol, must have forgoten we have the most advanced navy in eve

(when not getting shafted by scripted events)

All I see are loyalists. I could not care less who wins this war. All I care about is my paycheck at the end of a fight. Sure, I may be Caldari. Sure, I may have fought for Caldari. But the only reason I did so was because they payed me more. Plus.


(OOC: You guys need to be a little more creative with your role play. It's all loyalist Bashing one side, and another Loyalist bashing right back. There may as well just be two people assuming the roles of every loyalist for both factions.)