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Sontie
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
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Posted - 2013.04.11 02:41:00 -
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"Outreach" is just the seed of the idea. What it will become is something unique to Dust. |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1329
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Posted - 2013.04.11 03:17:00 -
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VicBoss wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:IMPERFECTs do not recognize this organization Probably a good thing
Put us down for 1 district. Kain always says we should get out and socialize more. Hell we'll even host the first planetary mixer |
Mr Kane Spero
Spero Escrow Services
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Posted - 2013.04.11 04:03:00 -
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Spero Escrow Services will always be happy to facilitate merc contracts, so that Merc and Employer can be confident that their transactions will be executed fairly.
One of our services is to hold money for Mercenary contracts in escrow so that the Mercenaries can be confident that the money for their payment is available. At the same time, employers will know that their money will not be paid out until the contract is fulfilled.
In order to discuss your future contract needs please contact Kane Spero Eve-side to discuss. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2727
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Posted - 2013.04.11 04:28:00 -
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Mr Kane Spero wrote:Spero Escrow Services will always be happy to facilitate merc contracts, so that Merc and Employer can be confident that their transactions will be executed fairly.
One of our services is to hold money for Mercenary contracts in escrow so that the Mercenaries can be confident that the money for their payment is available. At the same time, employers will know that their money will not be paid out until the contract is fulfilled.
In order to discuss your future contract needs please contact Kane Spero Eve-side to discuss.
Doesnt that chribba guy do this exact thing? |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
222
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Posted - 2013.04.11 04:37:00 -
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Make it happen, sounds amazing. |
Mr Kane Spero
Spero Escrow Services
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Posted - 2013.04.11 04:44:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Mr Kane Spero wrote:Spero Escrow Services will always be happy to facilitate merc contracts, so that Merc and Employer can be confident that their transactions will be executed fairly.
One of our services is to hold money for Mercenary contracts in escrow so that the Mercenaries can be confident that the money for their payment is available. At the same time, employers will know that their money will not be paid out until the contract is fulfilled.
In order to discuss your future contract needs please contact Kane Spero Eve-side to discuss. Doesnt that chribba guy do this exact thing?
If you are speaking of Eve-side that would be correct. I'm happy to bring similar services until we have a proper merc marketplace to Dust. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
865
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Posted - 2013.04.11 04:48:00 -
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However, and mind you I didn't want to read every post, wouldn't Alliance BS prevent such a planet? The top tens are all in alliances, and the EVE side of things may get aggravations rising, either from "lack of loyalty" in dust side of things for letting corps coexist, or ultra patriotism, where the corps continue to fight amongst the planet on behalf of their alliance. |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1329
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:10:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:However, and mind you I didn't want to read every post, wouldn't Alliance BS prevent such a planet? The top tens are all in alliances, and the EVE side of things may get aggravations rising, either from "lack of loyalty" in dust side of things for letting corps coexist, or ultra patriotism, where the corps continue to fight amongst the planet on behalf of their alliance.
Imps only answer to ourselves so as I said we are in. Looking foward to some social mixers and beer pong with my neighbors |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2731
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:35:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:However, and mind you I didn't want to read every post, wouldn't Alliance BS prevent such a planet? The top tens are all in alliances, and the EVE side of things may get aggravations rising, either from "lack of loyalty" in dust side of things for letting corps coexist, or ultra patriotism, where the corps continue to fight amongst the planet on behalf of their alliance. Imps only answer to ourselves so as I said we are in. Looking foward to some social mixers and beer pong with my neighbors
thats not entirely true if ur working for someone u kno. also how come mercs can "claim" a planet yet u not willing to give one to the academy/school guys to actually make some of these terribad blue dots better? |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1995
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Posted - 2013.04.11 05:38:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Free Beers wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:However, and mind you I didn't want to read every post, wouldn't Alliance BS prevent such a planet? The top tens are all in alliances, and the EVE side of things may get aggravations rising, either from "lack of loyalty" in dust side of things for letting corps coexist, or ultra patriotism, where the corps continue to fight amongst the planet on behalf of their alliance. Imps only answer to ourselves so as I said we are in. Looking foward to some social mixers and beer pong with my neighbors thats not entirely true if ur working for someone u kno. also how come mercs can "claim" a planet yet u not willing to give one to the academy/school guys to actually make some of these terribad blue dots better? We plan to sell that planet back to them - a process we'll keep repeating until they learn to keep the money under the rug when we come. ^_^ |
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Sontie
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
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Posted - 2013.04.11 06:13:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:However, and mind you I didn't want to read every post, wouldn't Alliance BS prevent such a planet? The top tens are all in alliances, and the EVE side of things may get aggravations rising, either from "lack of loyalty" in dust side of things for letting corps coexist, or ultra patriotism, where the corps continue to fight amongst the planet on behalf of their alliance.
Well, if you owe allegiance to an alliance, then you're not a true mercenary then, are you? You can still register with us, but being part of an alliance will probably exclude you from being on the "board" for outreach and thus a land holding partner. Maybe. If being in an alliance is not a conflict of interest, then that changes things.
Also I started a thread here |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
275
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Posted - 2013.04.11 06:26:00 -
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Mr Kane Spero wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Mr Kane Spero wrote:Spero Escrow Services will always be happy to facilitate merc contracts, so that Merc and Employer can be confident that their transactions will be executed fairly.
One of our services is to hold money for Mercenary contracts in escrow so that the Mercenaries can be confident that the money for their payment is available. At the same time, employers will know that their money will not be paid out until the contract is fulfilled.
In order to discuss your future contract needs please contact Kane Spero Eve-side to discuss. Doesnt that chribba guy do this exact thing? If you are speaking of Eve-side that would be correct. I'm happy to bring similar services until we have a proper merc marketplace to Dust. I do it Dust side as well should people have the need.
/c |
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Sontie
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
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Posted - 2013.04.11 06:48:00 -
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I somehow think your services would be useful |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2732
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Posted - 2013.04.11 14:53:00 -
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ChribbaX wrote:Mr Kane Spero wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Mr Kane Spero wrote:Spero Escrow Services will always be happy to facilitate merc contracts, so that Merc and Employer can be confident that their transactions will be executed fairly.
One of our services is to hold money for Mercenary contracts in escrow so that the Mercenaries can be confident that the money for their payment is available. At the same time, employers will know that their money will not be paid out until the contract is fulfilled.
In order to discuss your future contract needs please contact Kane Spero Eve-side to discuss. Doesnt that chribba guy do this exact thing? If you are speaking of Eve-side that would be correct. I'm happy to bring similar services until we have a proper merc marketplace to Dust. I do it Dust side as well should people have the need. /c
Yeaa.....chribba got u beat here kain sorry lol |
Sontie
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
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Posted - 2013.04.15 15:54:00 -
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Since mercenaries send to be a solitary lot, I wonder if having an individual merc ranking system might not be better (and we can give corps either a different ranking or an average ranking). What kind of options exist?
We could work with a formula like the one I floated for ranking corps; some combination of SP, gear, and KD/R or WP/D.
Another options would be a peer ranking system, where each member would be ranked by either a "council" of core members, or by all members. Shouldn't be too difficult to set up a poll.
hmmm, I have an idea.
Let's say we called ourselves the MRBC (mercenary review and bonding commission) or something like that. We set up a website where registered mercs and merc companies would get ranked based on the performance reviews of the "Council." This "Council" would be made up of one or two key members from each of the core mercenary companies that make up the MRBC. To have a seat in the council, a merc would need to have a lot of knowledge about DUST 514, know the in's and out's of each class so they would have a clear picture of what a merc should and shouldn't be capable of.
Through our website, we would facilitate communication between mercenaries and potential employers through a public forum and other means. We could also get people with video capture and video editing skills to create "Mercenary Spotlights" for the best mercs that register with us. (I have video capture abilities).
Having a well designed website would be key. Right now there isn't much interaction between Eve and Dust, but that will change (one day). Eve metagame is very intense and corporations and alliances will go to any length to ensure their interests are met. The services of highly skills mercenaries WILL be in high demand one day. Our website/organization would focus on finding that talent and getting them noticed by prospective employers. If we can create a system of review that is more reliable than leaderboards, our services will be successful. We all know leaderboards aren't everything, so it's definitely possible.
For this to get off the ground, I will need people to throw in on the idea at the ground level (this level). We only need to work out the framework right now; we have months til we need to go gold, but being committed to the idea early will help ensure it executes properly. |
Jaiden Longshot
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
276
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Posted - 2013.04.15 16:13:00 -
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Sounds like a Mercenary Alliance to me....why does it sound so familiar, hmmmm? |
Sontie
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
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Posted - 2013.04.15 21:00:00 -
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It shares some features, like that mercenaries will be associating and that their are certain rules those who choose to affiliate themselves will have to follow... but it won't be political. Outreach (or whatever) will not take part in PC or FW directly. It will not support or oppose any faction in game.
Just for clarity's sake, do you remember what it reminds you of? |
Kitten Commander
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
177
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Posted - 2013.04.15 21:31:00 -
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Nice idea but its something that will have to happen after the dust (pun intended) settles with PC.
Stage 1 PC - The huge land grab where everyone is going to be in it for themselves and alliances stake their little happy homeworlds
Stage 2 PC - Empire expansion. Alliances and corps begin to stretch their legs to expand upon their empires. Things are still quite chaotic as some may reach too far and could possibly have very bad consequences.
Stage 3 PC - Borders begin to form as corps and their alliances solidify their holdings. More predictable as far as where battles happen. The Meta Game will truely take hold here.
The best chance for this is probably going to be Stage 3. Especially when the DEVs open up more districts after everyone has had their fill of the original 250 and corps begin to take out contracts for battles where they are not looking to own the district after. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2525
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Posted - 2013.04.16 18:20:00 -
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Kitten Commander wrote:Nice idea but its something that will have to happen after the dust (pun intended) settles with PC.
Stage 1 PC - The huge land grab where everyone is going to be in it for themselves and alliances stake their little happy homeworlds
Stage 2 PC - Empire expansion. Alliances and corps begin to stretch their legs to expand upon their empires. Things are still quite chaotic as some may reach too far and could possibly have very bad consequences.
Stage 3 PC - Borders begin to form as corps and their alliances solidify their holdings. More predictable as far as where battles happen. The Meta Game will truely take hold here.
The best chance for this is probably going to be Stage 3. Especially when the DEVs open up more districts after everyone has had their fill of the original 250 and corps begin to take out contracts for battles where they are not looking to own the district after. I'm seconding this.
Definitely better to wait and see how things happen, and set something like this up later. |
Leither Yiltron
2535
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Posted - 2013.04.16 19:42:00 -
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Sontie wrote: I would like to propose the creation of a planet/organization for independent merc companies free of the complicated and convoluted politics of alliances and the like. In the universe of Battletech, Outreach is a planet that is (de facto) owned by a mercenary company known as the Wolf's Dragoons. This planet became their base of operations as well as an oasis for other mercenary companies. Different factions from across the galaxy would travel to Outreach to find a mercenary company to take their contract, ranging from planetary governments needing an experienced force to bolster their militia to Soveriegn States wishing to contract large merc companies to help in their latest war against their rivals.
I want to create something of the sort here in Dust. A planet whose districts belong to a variety of people, including me. Since we're all mercenary corporations, it totally makes sense that in addition to the income we'd be making off of merc contracts, the general sov holding blocs would just leave us be to collect passive income on a potential strategic and economic asset. Also, owning a planet is totally a requisite to fulfill mercenary contracts.
I fixed this OP for you, Sontie.
We call this an "alliance" where I come from. If you want to form one, just say it and get it done!
What you have in the actual OP is basically what Dust University is suggesting, except with a different flavor. Neither you nor they are going to be able to manage it for various reasons.
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Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
92
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Posted - 2013.04.16 19:48:00 -
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Leither Yiltron wrote:Sontie wrote: I would like to propose the creation of a planet/organization for independent merc companies free of the complicated and convoluted politics of alliances and the like. In the universe of Battletech, Outreach is a planet that is (de facto) owned by a mercenary company known as the Wolf's Dragoons. This planet became their base of operations as well as an oasis for other mercenary companies. Different factions from across the galaxy would travel to Outreach to find a mercenary company to take their contract, ranging from planetary governments needing an experienced force to bolster their militia to Soveriegn States wishing to contract large merc companies to help in their latest war against their rivals.
I want to create something of the sort here in Dust. A planet whose districts belong to a variety of people, including me. Since we're all mercenary corporations, it totally makes sense that in addition to the income we'd be making off of merc contracts, the general sov holding blocs would just leave us be to collect passive income on a potential strategic and economic asset. Also, owning a planet is totally a requisite to fulfill mercenary contracts.
I fixed this OP for you, Sontie. We call this an "alliance" where I come from. If you want to form one, just say it and get it done! What you have in the actual OP is basically what Dust University is suggesting, except with a different flavor. Neither you nor they are going to be able to manage it for various reasons.
Oh crap, you mean we will have to fight off trolls? Who would have thought it!
No really, anyone with some intelligence will realize that those who particulate in this Outreach bit will be fighting off people who won't care about our words.
DOesn't mean we will listen to you and all the rest of the egomaniacs in the sov power blocks.
I say bring it. This isn't Eve. |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
787
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Posted - 2013.04.16 20:07:00 -
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I like the idea... it puts 10 corps in a lineup and you could treat it like a Mike Tyson/Mortal Kombat list and try to beat everyone of them... You could start at no.10 and work your way down the list...
Glass Joe = PRO Piston Hurricane = ? Bald Bull = etc...
gg setting up a Mike Tyson type game in DUST, Sontie!
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Sontie
Ill Omens EoN.
238
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:47:00 -
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I'm bumping this thread. I also think that having a planet at this stage is probably getting ahead of ourselves. We need to prove that this service is needed first.
I'm gonna paraphrase what I've heard someone else say, "...I could get shafted and my only response would be to blacklist you and try to tell as many people as I know not to work with you." Without some kind of merc guild in place, individual mercs and small merc companies would be at the mercy of their employers. The employer could choose not to pay them or not (for reimbursement stuff). But if they get black listed by a respected and well known organization, one with a website that a majority of mercs register through, then that employers would be proper ******. |
Sev Alcatraz
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
249
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Posted - 2013.04.29 16:06:00 -
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It's a great idea until someone decides to take it |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United ProtoStar Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.29 19:41:00 -
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Sontie wrote:It shares some features, like that mercenaries will be associating and that their are certain rules those who choose to affiliate themselves will have to follow... but it won't be political. Outreach (or whatever) will not take part in PC or FW directly. It will not support or oppose any faction in game.
Just for clarity's sake, do you remember what it reminds you of?
It was tried on EvE. It lasted for a short bit, then ended up as a full scale alliance and then got steam rolled. |
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