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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2013.03.25 15:21:00 -
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Once the planetary conquest portion of Dust becomes publicly available, Rosen Association will likely be contracting out to other merc corporations for much of the District fighting. This is due to our small member count.
In order to better support Dust 514, we would like to contract out to other like minded merc corps whenever possible. To this end, we ask corporation CEOs or Officers to publicly, in this thread, declare that their corp does not condone AFK farming.
Rosen Association will compile this list of corporations, and, whenever possible, contract out to only the corporations on this list. Obviously we will be monitoring activity in Dust Skirmish matches as we play, and any corporation that is observed to have a member AFKing during a match will be struck from the list. Any other corporation may also use this list for their own contracting should it desire.
Current corporations who are already ineligible to receive contracts from us would be:
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunters Any Internal Error corporations
Any other corporations, please feel free to express your desire to be considered for contract hire, and your intolerance of AFKing by your members.
Please keep things civil here, we're just looking for corporations that we'd like to hire.
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Chris F2112
Killshot Corp
15
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Posted - 2013.03.25 15:27:00 -
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Not trying to sound like I'm for AFKing in any way, but If you only hire out to corporations that have no members that ever do it, it's probably going to be a relatively short list. |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
391
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Posted - 2013.03.25 15:31:00 -
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Chris F2112 wrote:Not trying to sound like I'm for AFKing in any way, but If you only hire out to corporations that have no members that ever do it, it's probably going to be a relatively short list.
Yea and a short list of players you wouldnt want to merc out contracts to anyway.
Also they aren't Internal Error corps they are Negative-Feedback corps |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
173
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Posted - 2013.03.25 16:05:00 -
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Gunner Nightingale wrote:Chris F2112 wrote:Not trying to sound like I'm for AFKing in any way, but If you only hire out to corporations that have no members that ever do it, it's probably going to be a relatively short list. Yea and a short list of players you wouldnt want to merc out contracts to anyway. Also they aren't Internal Error corps they are Negative-Feedback corps
Thanks, I will correct the the op.
Also, we aren't so concerned about how short the list is, just that they adhere to some standard of ethics. |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
370
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Posted - 2013.03.25 17:13:00 -
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This is eve good luck on that :-) |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
173
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Posted - 2013.03.25 17:19:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:This is eve good luck on that :-)
We've managed in Eve so far, and thanks for your support. I'm sorry that your Corp is ineligible. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
180
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:19:00 -
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I'm a little surprised that no Corp has come forward, so far, to declare that they don't tolerate afk farming. I'm sure mine is not the only Corp interested in funneling isk to corporations that do not afk farm. |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
45
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:56:00 -
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I clearly stand for my corp and i would like to say
We would be happy to do it provided you give us 15% of the isk made in (liquidated stock) from the planetary installations we capture furthermore we need a minimum of 1mill isk before we enter a battle to cover a small majority of our fee's you are to provide ALL eve support unless you are willing to pay 50mill + per battle
For any further details on our terms please contact a legitimate admin of our corporation or some one who is not making it up
(if you don't have many dust players i hope your a eve vet who is able to fund all of this any smart dust corp manager will charge that AT least just of the top of my head)
also in some situations you may be able to pay then in guns weps ect ~ but that is a very LIMITED situation
as isk is more effective in the long run as shown by eve corp wars |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
180
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Posted - 2013.03.26 06:03:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote:I clearly stand for my corp and i would like to say
We would be happy to do it provided you give us 15% of the isk made in (liquidated stock) from the planetary installations we capture furthermore we need a minimum of 1mill isk before we enter a battle to cover a small majority of our fee's you are to provide ALL eve support unless you are willing to pay 50mill + per battle
For any further details on our terms please contact a legitimate admin of our corporation or some one who is not making it up
(if you don't have many dust players i hope your a eve vet who is able to fund all of this any smart dust corp manager will charge that AT least just of the top of my head)
also in some situations you may be able to pay then in guns weps ect ~ but that is a very LIMITED situation
as isk is more effective in the long run as shown by eve corp wars
*edit* as for afk farming no one would see there members do it and say hey that's fine i don't mind that
but at the same time this is the time and place you want to grab all the most powerful players before the game lunches and if they become those players by afking then some corp leaders would even see that as a investment and a necessary risk in order to become a successful corp and in my opinion isk < SP
there is no point having all this fancy stuff if you can't even use it
Isk isn't an issue. Also, terms of contract can't be negotiated until we see what the framework allows.
All we want to know right now is if you like your Corp considered. Based on your post, I'm assuming that you do. So long as we see no afking by your Corp, you are first on the go to list. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
320
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:19:00 -
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Not to sound rude, but I've never heard of the Rosen Association before. If you are going to be advertising your services as a contracting company shouldn't you are least try and sell us on who you are first? |
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
180
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:33:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Not to sound rude, but I've never heard of the Rosen Association before. If you are going to be advertising your services as a contracting company shouldn't you are least try and sell us on who you are first? Um, I'm not selling anything. Please read the first post carefully. I'm soliciting for customers, namely merc corps, that would like to be paid in isk for corp battles once territory conquest is in game.
Our corp would like to hire only those corps that formally disavow afk farming. |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
45
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:23:00 -
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*edit*
lost everything i typed and can't find it in draft |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
45
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:54:00 -
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The way i see it a corp can lie to you
you are literally extending your hands out to us with isk on them
a corp can set up alt account's and make a alt corp and go on a full scale war against you then they step up in there main corp and attempt to save you and do a good job of it they will get payed a lot by you they saved you from a overly aggressive enemy
but really they just suckered you out of your isk
as for afk farming it's kinda like smoking
if you ask a company if they support it or not they will say no regardless of if it's true or not
so i really don't think this is the way you should go about it
But rather contact corp leaders person by person and ask them your self face to face the people this kinda request will attract are not worth the isk you spend In my opinion
and just the clarify my previous message was 50% troll if you want to contact some one in my corp who is not just a random low ranking member check our CEO's you-tube Chanel
https://www.youtube.com/user/CEOPyrex/videos |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
320
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:58:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Not to sound rude, but I've never heard of the Rosen Association before. If you are going to be advertising your services as a contracting company shouldn't you are least try and sell us on who you are first? Um, I'm not selling anything. Please read the first post carefully. I'm soliciting for customers, namely merc corps, that would like to be paid in isk for corp battles once territory conquest is in game. Our corp would like to hire only those corps that formally disavow afk farming.
My mistake, I did read the OP to quickly, also figured as a small Corp you would contract out instead of in since you would need to defend your districts. |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
373
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:46:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:This is eve good luck on that :-) We've managed in Eve so far, and thanks for your support. I'm sorry that your Corp is ineligible. Heh fair enough. And no worrys your corp is not are target market I just hope you being chosey does not cause a problem when someone decides to take youre stuff.
Not trash talking just being blunt pirates like going after small fish for the lols are openly stating the intentions in the way u have just makes u a huge target. Dust is a lot smaller place than EvE don't burn bridges you don't need to |
Sextus Hardcock
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
122
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:54:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Once the planetary conquest portion of Dust becomes publicly available, Rosen Association will likely be contracting out to other merc corporations for much of the District fighting. This is due to our small member count.
In order to better support Dust 514, we would like to contract out to other like minded merc corps whenever possible. To this end, we ask corporation CEOs or Officers to publicly, in this thread, declare that their corp does not condone AFK farming.
Rosen Association will compile this list of corporations, and, whenever possible, contract out to only the corporations on this list. Obviously we will be monitoring activity in Dust Skirmish matches as we play, and any corporation that is observed to have a member AFKing during a match will be struck from the list. Any other corporation may also use this list for their own contracting should it desire.
Current corporations who are already ineligible to receive contracts from us would be:
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Any Negative Feedback corporations
Any other corporations, please feel free to express your desire to be considered for contract hire, and your intolerance of AFKing by your members.
Please keep things civil here, we're just looking for corporations that we'd like to hire.
I suppose I'll have to afk farm to re-coup my lost revenues from your mighty corp.
your form of e-justice is glorious to behold o mighty one... uh who are you again?
;)
edit: Try petitioning to CCP to include more preformance based incentives in their game play and less socialism. Better use of your time than this, which will accomplish nothing, although it is mildly amusing I guess. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
186
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:58:00 -
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Sextus Hardcock wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Once the planetary conquest portion of Dust becomes publicly available, Rosen Association will likely be contracting out to other merc corporations for much of the District fighting. This is due to our small member count.
In order to better support Dust 514, we would like to contract out to other like minded merc corps whenever possible. To this end, we ask corporation CEOs or Officers to publicly, in this thread, declare that their corp does not condone AFK farming.
Rosen Association will compile this list of corporations, and, whenever possible, contract out to only the corporations on this list. Obviously we will be monitoring activity in Dust Skirmish matches as we play, and any corporation that is observed to have a member AFKing during a match will be struck from the list. Any other corporation may also use this list for their own contracting should it desire.
Current corporations who are already ineligible to receive contracts from us would be:
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Any Negative Feedback corporations
Any other corporations, please feel free to express your desire to be considered for contract hire, and your intolerance of AFKing by your members.
Please keep things civil here, we're just looking for corporations that we'd like to hire. I suppose I'll have to afk farm to re-coup my lost revenues from your mighty corp. your form of e-justice is glorious to behold o mighty one... uh who are you again? ;) edit: Try petitioning to CCP to include more preformance based incentives in their game play and less socialism. Better use of your time than this, which will accomplish nothing, although it is mildly amusing I guess.
Just to be clear, for those that are misinterpreting the original post.
Rosen Association is looking to hire merc corps to attack and defend territory. We only want to hire, if possible, corps that publically disavow afk farming.
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Alina Heart
DIOS EX.
2
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:01:00 -
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DIOS EX. Will always be willing to support any Corporation who stands against MCC farming and the 40 year old degenerates who do it. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:07:00 -
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Alina Heart wrote:DIOS EX. Will always be willing to support any Corporation who stands against MCC farming and the 40 year old degenerates who do it.
Thank you
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Sextus Hardcock
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
123
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:42:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Sextus Hardcock wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Once the planetary conquest portion of Dust becomes publicly available, Rosen Association will likely be contracting out to other merc corporations for much of the District fighting. This is due to our small member count.
In order to better support Dust 514, we would like to contract out to other like minded merc corps whenever possible. To this end, we ask corporation CEOs or Officers to publicly, in this thread, declare that their corp does not condone AFK farming.
Rosen Association will compile this list of corporations, and, whenever possible, contract out to only the corporations on this list. Obviously we will be monitoring activity in Dust Skirmish matches as we play, and any corporation that is observed to have a member AFKing during a match will be struck from the list. Any other corporation may also use this list for their own contracting should it desire.
Current corporations who are already ineligible to receive contracts from us would be:
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Any Negative Feedback corporations
Any other corporations, please feel free to express your desire to be considered for contract hire, and your intolerance of AFKing by your members.
Please keep things civil here, we're just looking for corporations that we'd like to hire. I suppose I'll have to afk farm to re-coup my lost revenues from your mighty corp. your form of e-justice is glorious to behold o mighty one... uh who are you again? ;) edit: Try petitioning to CCP to include more preformance based incentives in their game play and less socialism. Better use of your time than this, which will accomplish nothing, although it is mildly amusing I guess. Just to be clear, for those that are misinterpreting the original post. Rosen Association is looking to hire merc corps to attack and defend territory. We only want to hire, if possible, corps that publically disavow afk farming.
I don't believe I misinterpreted your original post at all (I assume you are refering to me as you quoted my response)
You are looking to hire corps to attack and defend districts on your behalf, with the requirement that they both A) publicly speak out against AFK farming and B) are not witnessed by any of your members etc... in the act of AFK farming.
Since my corp is listed on your short list of who you won't hire I can make the assumption that you have some 'proof' of a bunny AFKing.
My further comment was directed towards you, as your efforts to stamp out afk farming are pointless. No amount of player action will ever stop it since the rewards are tangible and the risks are zero. Any amount you could collectively spend towards hiring our corp, could easily be gained by farming. Hence the problem.
And so again I say, look to the game designers for a solution. Perhaps a WP per game or per minute Metric would help. |
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Sentient Archon
Red Star.
862
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:48:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Once the planetary conquest portion of Dust becomes publicly available, Rosen Association will likely be contracting out to other merc corporations for much of the District fighting. This is due to our small member count.
In order to better support Dust 514, we would like to contract out to other like minded merc corps whenever possible. To this end, we ask corporation CEOs or Officers to publicly, in this thread, declare that their corp does not condone AFK farming.
Rosen Association will compile this list of corporations, and, whenever possible, contract out to only the corporations on this list. Obviously we will be monitoring activity in Dust Skirmish matches as we play, and any corporation that is observed to have a member AFKing during a match will be struck from the list. Any other corporation may also use this list for their own contracting should it desire.
Current corporations who are already ineligible to receive contracts from us would be:
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Any Negative Feedback corporations
Any other corporations, please feel free to express your desire to be considered for contract hire, and your intolerance of AFKing by your members.
Please keep things civil here, we're just looking for corporations that we'd like to hire.
Edit: tl;dr - Rosen Association will be hiring merc corps for territorial combat. We want to hire corps that publically disavow afk farming whenever possible. Please post here if your corp disallows afk farming.
Add Red Star to the list please. I personally AFK farm and think its the most wonderful thing CCP has ever done to the game. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
191
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:50:00 -
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Sextus Hardcock wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Sextus Hardcock wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Once the planetary conquest portion of Dust becomes publicly available, Rosen Association will likely be contracting out to other merc corporations for much of the District fighting. This is due to our small member count.
In order to better support Dust 514, we would like to contract out to other like minded merc corps whenever possible. To this end, we ask corporation CEOs or Officers to publicly, in this thread, declare that their corp does not condone AFK farming.
Rosen Association will compile this list of corporations, and, whenever possible, contract out to only the corporations on this list. Obviously we will be monitoring activity in Dust Skirmish matches as we play, and any corporation that is observed to have a member AFKing during a match will be struck from the list. Any other corporation may also use this list for their own contracting should it desire.
Current corporations who are already ineligible to receive contracts from us would be:
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Any Negative Feedback corporations
Any other corporations, please feel free to express your desire to be considered for contract hire, and your intolerance of AFKing by your members.
Please keep things civil here, we're just looking for corporations that we'd like to hire. I suppose I'll have to afk farm to re-coup my lost revenues from your mighty corp. your form of e-justice is glorious to behold o mighty one... uh who are you again? ;) edit: Try petitioning to CCP to include more preformance based incentives in their game play and less socialism. Better use of your time than this, which will accomplish nothing, although it is mildly amusing I guess. Just to be clear, for those that are misinterpreting the original post. Rosen Association is looking to hire merc corps to attack and defend territory. We only want to hire, if possible, corps that publically disavow afk farming. I don't believe I misinterpreted your original post at all (I assume you are refering to me as you quoted my response) You are looking to hire corps to attack and defend districts on your behalf, with the requirement that they both A) publicly speak out against AFK farming and B) are not witnessed by any of your members etc... in the act of AFK farming. Since my corp is listed on your short list of who you won't hire I can make the assumption that you have some 'proof' of a bunny AFKing. My further comment was directed towards you, as your efforts to stamp out afk farming are pointless. No amount of player action will ever stop it since the rewards are tangible and the risks are zero. Any amount you could collectively spend towards hiring our corp, could easily be gained by farming. Hence the problem. And so again I say, look to the game designers for a solution. Perhaps a WP per game or per minute Metric would help.
Fair enough. I assumed you misinterpreted the post simply because of your mighty corp comment. It seemed like you thought that I am saying "We will crush you"
Not at all, I'm trying to generate a societal norm, by example that ostracises afkers. Additionally, of course, CCP has been petitioned.
But, like in real life, if there are societal repercussions for deviance, it will be stamped out by the people. I don't expect such a mature development here in a game, but we lead by example, not by following.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
148
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:51:00 -
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hmm,I suggest talking to quick here he would surely be interested in your proposition we have hundreds of members that will surly aid you.
I also know for a fact that our corp has 0 tolerance for afk farming,I am however not a director so my word is meaningless no? |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
191
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Posted - 2013.03.26 17:02:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:hmm,I suggest talking to quick here he would surely be interested in your proposition we have hundreds of members that will surly aid you. I also know for a fact that our corp has 0 tolerance for afk farming,I am however not a director so my word is meaningless no?
Thanks. I posted there to see if anyone would "officially" say your corp is interested.
I definitely appreciate the comments of corp members, and it helps us, though I'd definitely prefer a comment from someone who, more formally, represents the corp.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
149
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Posted - 2013.03.26 17:07:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:hmm,I suggest talking to quick here he would surely be interested in your proposition we have hundreds of members that will surly aid you. I also know for a fact that our corp has 0 tolerance for afk farming,I am however not a director so my word is meaningless no? Thanks. I posted there to see if anyone would "officially" say your corp is interested. I definitely appreciate the comments of corp members, and it helps us, though I'd definitely prefer a comment from someone who, more formally, represents the corp.
no problem helping you helps my blood,I hope to work with you a bit more in the future. |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
374
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Posted - 2013.03.26 21:25:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Once the planetary conquest portion of Dust becomes publicly available, Rosen Association will likely be contracting out to other merc corporations for much of the District fighting. This is due to our small member count.
In order to better support Dust 514, we would like to contract out to other like minded merc corps whenever possible. To this end, we ask corporation CEOs or Officers to publicly, in this thread, declare that their corp does not condone AFK farming.
Rosen Association will compile this list of corporations, and, whenever possible, contract out to only the corporations on this list. Obviously we will be monitoring activity in Dust Skirmish matches as we play, and any corporation that is observed to have a member AFKing during a match will be struck from the list. Any other corporation may also use this list for their own contracting should it desire.
Current corporations who are already ineligible to receive contracts from us would be:
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Any Negative Feedback corporations Red Star (by volunteer)
Any other corporations, please feel free to express your desire to be considered for contract hire, and your intolerance of AFKing by your members.
Please keep things civil here, we're just looking for corporations that we'd like to hire.
Edit: tl;dr - Rosen Association will be hiring merc corps for territorial combat. We want to hire corps that publically disavow afk farming whenever possible. Please post here if your corp disallows afk farming.
Current whitelist candidates:
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DIOS EX. SVER True Blood
The whitelist consists of corporations that have expressed intolerance of afk farming, and have not been witnessed by Rosen Association to afk farm.
If your corp would like to be placed on either the banned list or the whitelist, feel free to post in this thread.
STB is full ay against afk farmin. If a member of are unit is found afk farming they are immidatly put on trial for the offence. They are given a chacne to explain them bien gafk or if purpsfuly done they are removed. We hate map abusers glitch users an anyone that openly tries to cheat.
That being siad ocasianlly real life wil come calling mid game. I personally ahve had a couple of times where my nephew ned attention or my wife was chatinig me that i failed to spawn for a time in game. However it is the intentional choice to farm that we are against! |
Sextus Hardcock
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
123
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Posted - 2013.03.26 22:42:00 -
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Quickgloves wrote:[ STB is full ay against afk farmin. If a member of are unit is found afk farming they are immidatly put on trial for the offence. They are given a chacne to explain them bien gafk or if purpsfuly done they are removed. We hate map abusers glitch users an anyone that openly tries to cheat.
That being siad ocasianlly real life wil come calling mid game. I personally ahve had a couple of times where my nephew ned attention or my wife was chatinig me that i failed to spawn for a time in game. However it is the intentional choice to farm that we are against!
you are being put on trial for your posting skills. |
Inferno Blazer
Guardians of the RepubIic
1
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Posted - 2013.03.26 23:29:00 -
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I'm trying to get this straight:
you are a small corporation, that is going to be using the grunt labor of other corporations to attain Planetary Resources. You are then going to keep the majority of the earnings from the passive planetary earnings you have attained to actively fund your progressive growth of resources while still being under staffed.
I fail to see why a corporation would agree to this on a permanent basis, when all the other corporations have to do otherwise is perform a merger and thus have more manpower to attain more resources and spread it amongst their members equally. this seems to be the equivalent of sweat-shop laborers. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
196
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Posted - 2013.03.27 00:50:00 -
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Inferno Blazer wrote:I'm trying to get this straight:
you are a small corporation, that is going to be using the grunt labor of other corporations to attain Planetary Resources. You are then going to keep the majority of the earnings from the passive planetary earnings you have attained to actively fund your progressive growth of resources while still being under staffed.
I fail to see why a corporation would agree to this on a permanent basis, when all the other corporations have to do otherwise is perform a merger and thus have more manpower to attain more resources and spread it amongst their members equally. this seems to be the equivalent of sweat-shop laborers.
It's called a mercenary contract, and it's kind of a big deal in this game. Also, contracted labor isn't the same thing as a sweat shop, just like not all jobs are sweatshops.
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Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
275
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Posted - 2013.03.27 00:52:00 -
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Buster - I can see you're new to New Eden. If there's a chance of backstabbing, it will happen. A larger corp won't sit back and relax because they've done all the fighting only for you to take the majority of the loot.
If anything, they'll take your contract, take the district for themselves, and you'd just be out of money. Jus' saying. |
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