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Altina McAlterson
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Posted - 2013.03.25 00:15:00 -
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I'm not really sure how I feel about this whole thing, honestly. Just about the only right a customer actually has is they must receive the goods as they were defined at the time of sale. So there's a very good possibility you will be getting free stuff. Be interesting to see how this goes.
Unfortunately even though I purchased one of the offending merc packs I also paid attention to announcements from the DEVS so I knew there wasn't going to be another wipe. It's not like they came to your house and told you about it so it's probably reasonable that someone wouldn't know about. Then again maybe not. Maybe you should pay be paying attention to things said by the DEV's for the game you're testing. Like I said, I really don't know how to feel about this one. |
Altina McAlterson
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Posted - 2013.03.25 00:33:00 -
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This is one of those things where what it is and what it's called are not the same thing. CCP says it was not a commercial release. You can have all the evidence in the world that it was but until you have a ruling from a court of law of a sovereign country with sufficient jurisdiction to try the case your statements that the game is commercially released are wrong.
I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm not saying your evidence is wrong. I'm just saying it isn't a commercial release until CCP or a judge says it is. You're only going to confuse people if you keep this up. |
Altina McAlterson
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Posted - 2013.03.25 00:41:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:This is one of those things where what it is and what it's called are not the same thing. CCP says it was not a commercial release. You can have all the evidence in the world that it was but until you have a ruling from a court of law of sovereign country with sufficient jurisdiction to try the case your statements that the game is commercially released are wrong.
I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm not saying your evidence it wrong. I'm just saying it isn't a commercial release until CCP or a judge says it is. You're only going to confuse people if you keep this up.
CCP did say it was a commercial release though...
No they didn't. Representatives might have said that. But the official statement is there has not been a commercial release.
I'm not trying to argue the merits of your case. Look, when the cops find you sitting on top of a dead body with the murder weapon in one hand and a digital recording of you killing the person in 1080P with surround sound you are still the "alleged murder" until a ruling is reached at your trial.
So your statement that there was a commercial release on such and such date is incorrect because you lack the authority to make any official statements on behalf of CCP. You saying it doesn't change anything and will only further obfuscate the issue for people reading the thread. |
Altina McAlterson
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Posted - 2013.03.25 00:48:00 -
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Again, until an official statement is released confirming commercial release of the game then there hasn't been a commercial release. Really not that hard of a concept. |
Altina McAlterson
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Posted - 2013.03.25 00:53:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:
If I stab someone, then I stabbed someone, regardless of what I or others say. Whether the court finds me guilty or not doesn't change the fact that I am guilty. This became a commercial release the instant it became available to the general public, regardless of what some court somewhere in who knows where says.
You have that completely backwards and you're missing the point entirely. If you are found not guilty you are not punished. It doesn't matter whether you did it or not.
CCP didn't make an official statement that the game was released commercially. So until CCP or a court of law say otherwise they don't have to do anything. That's what I'm getting at. |
Altina McAlterson
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Posted - 2013.03.25 01:06:00 -
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I swear to god are you all f*cking with me? Is this really that hard of a concept?
You can point to this and that all damn day and argue about whether or not you can bribe a judge to unstab somebody but the simple fact is that until you take this shite to trial and get a signed court order then the game is in whatever stage CCP says it is and they don't have to do a damn thing if they don't want to do it. |
Altina McAlterson
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Posted - 2013.03.25 01:13:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:I swear to god are you all f*cking with me? Is this really that hard of a concept?
You can point to this and that all damn day and argue about whether or not you can bribe a judge to unstab somebody but the simple fact is that until you take this shite to trial and get a signed court order then the game is in whatever stage CCP says it is and they don't have to do a damn thing if they don't want to do it. This isn't about the law, this is about people's trust in CCP. Yes, "they don't have to do anything", but it would be nice if they kept their word. All they have to do is admit that this is a Commercial Release, that's all. If I tell you I'm going to give you 5$, do I have to give them to you? No, but would you trust me if I didn't?
No, actually this is about Noc making statements that are going to do nothing but confuse people. |
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