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Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2013.03.24 23:03:00 -
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Akira Regendorf wrote:You do realize that the minimum wage in Aus is about 50% higher than in the US here and here are some links to pages with the info about the minimum wage. So looking at this it would take about 6 hours of work at minimum wage to pay for a $110 game in Aus. In the US the federal minimum wage is $7.25 so working minimum wage it would take about 8 hours of work to pay for a $60 dollar game in the US. Of course idk what your tax rates and such are like, idk how much of that you actually take home compared to in the US. TL;DR you guys make more money, the amount of work to pay for a game is less And that one ALSO doesn't make up the price difference in NZ. So I'm still getting shafted. |
Three Double-A Batteries
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.24 23:21:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Australia has weird tax laws that bump the prices up. That explains ALMOST half the increase in price of the average game compared with the same product in US stores.
And it doesn't explain a thing about why NZ gets shafted even worse on most of the same products while our local laws aren't as strict as Australia's laws are.
I think my favourite is books though.
With online bookstores overseas, including the cost of shipping, the worst-case scenario is that I'm paying 25% of what it costs in a local store without counting the cost of getting to the shop.
EDIT: Although I think Sony are probably at least as responsible for this one as CCP are. I don't know for sure, but I'd be inclined to guess that's the case. What "weird" tax laws?
Australia has a 10% retail sales tax at a federal level and nothing at state level - and tax DOES NOT APPLY to online purchases under $1,000.
There are also no wholesale taxes. I don't think it gets any simpler than that and it doesn't explain a thing as the Australian government does not set the prices.
These are digital items where the $AUD is trading at 1.04 to the $USD but the DIGITAL items cost over 50% more than the US.
This is pure and simply price gouging by CCP. It's shameful and they shouldn't do it. |
Mithridates VI
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.03.24 23:28:00 -
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Three Double-A Batteries wrote:This is pure and simply price gouging by CCP. It's shameful and they shouldn't do it.
Oh, it's you again, still making things up to support your crusade against CCP.
You do understand that the difference in price between Australia and the US on the PS Store exists across many, if not all, games, right?
Don't let a little thing like facts get in the way of your "shame on you, CCP" argument, though. |
Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2013.03.24 23:28:00 -
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Three Double-A Batteries wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Australia has weird tax laws that bump the prices up. That explains ALMOST half the increase in price of the average game compared with the same product in US stores.
And it doesn't explain a thing about why NZ gets shafted even worse on most of the same products while our local laws aren't as strict as Australia's laws are.
I think my favourite is books though.
With online bookstores overseas, including the cost of shipping, the worst-case scenario is that I'm paying 25% of what it costs in a local store without counting the cost of getting to the shop.
EDIT: Although I think Sony are probably at least as responsible for this one as CCP are. I don't know for sure, but I'd be inclined to guess that's the case. What "weird" tax laws? Australia has a 10% retail sales tax at a federal level and nothing at state level - and tax DOES NOT APPLY to online purchases under $1,000. There are also no wholesale taxes. I don't think it gets any simpler than that and it doesn't explain a thing as the Australian government does not set the prices. These are digital items where the $AUD is trading at 1.04 to the $USD but the DIGITAL items cost over 50% more than the US. This is pure and simply price gouging by CCP. It's shameful and they shouldn't do it. There are other laws relating specifically to digital products which exist to "protect the Australian market" - it's similar to import taxes that are applied in the US against many foreign farm produce that are competing with local products. But it's a "free market"
Also, Australian and NZ game prices are listed INCLUDING tax, while US prices for everything are listed BEFORE tax. So that $60 is actually $60 + tax. Like I said earlier though, even counting ALL the logical reasons why our prices (both NZ and Aus) are higher than US prices, there's still a gap where they're over-charging beyond the ability to provide any explanation. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.24 23:31:00 -
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Double-A, it's hardly just CCP, no? If all the items on the Sony store are displaying the same trend, then it'll be Sony providing the reason for the price increase. Perhaps it's an increased cost in running the PSN servers in Australia. Perhaps it's the increased living costs for the workers in Australia. Perhaps it's any number of costs that come from being in Australia rather than the US or Europe.
Don't assign blame when you don't know all the details. Makes you out to look like an idiot. |
Three Double-A Batteries
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.24 23:37:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Three Double-A Batteries wrote:This is pure and simply price gouging by CCP. It's shameful and they shouldn't do it. Oh, it's you again, still making things up to support your crusade against CCP. You do understand that the difference in price between Australia and the US on the PS Store exists across many, if not all, games, right? Don't let a little thing like facts get in the way of your "shame on you, CCP" argument, though. There is little point complaining about other games and developers here don't you think?
This is CCP's forum, their gouging so complaints about it go here.
You should stop your personal attacks and you are trolling as well. |
Mithridates VI
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.03.25 01:32:00 -
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Three Double-A Batteries wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Three Double-A Batteries wrote:This is pure and simply price gouging by CCP. It's shameful and they shouldn't do it. Oh, it's you again, still making things up to support your crusade against CCP. You do understand that the difference in price between Australia and the US on the PS Store exists across many, if not all, games, right? Don't let a little thing like facts get in the way of your "shame on you, CCP" argument, though. There is little point complaining about other games and developers here don't you think? This is CCP's forum, their gouging so complaints about it go here. You should stop your personal attacks and you are trolling as well.
What personal attack? The lying to maintain your crusade are very clear. They're not necessarily negative attributes, they're just important to mention in dealing with you because they so heavily influence your posts.
The point was that your assertions that CCP is responsible for the differing prices is unsubstantiated and there is reason to believe it is incorrect. |
Joseph Ridgeson
Cactus Rats
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Posted - 2013.03.25 01:59:00 -
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Australia gamers are just royally boned for all times sadly. I hate seeing fellow gamers bay 80+ for games that Americans and most of Europe pay 60 for. Pay 60 Euro for a game that goes for 60 USD is one thing but when it is literally just inflated? Very lame.
I remember seeing an episode of Extra Credits that explained it something like this: the prices were set when the Australian dollar was much weaker than the US dollar, so 80 equaled out to 60. When the AUD got stronger, the prices didn't change. Whether or not it is true, I have no idea. However the gaming culture of Australia has royally been hosed by prices.
Be well. |
Three Double-A Batteries
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.25 08:47:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I remember seeing an episode of Extra Credits that explained it something like this: the prices were set when the Australian dollar was much weaker than the US dollar, so 80 equaled out to 60. When the AUD got stronger, the prices didn't change. Whether or not it is true, I have no idea. However the gaming culture of Australia has royally been hosed by prices. That used to be the argument.
Now the currency positions have switched to parity and then some but the price hikes and gouging continue.
I don't care if it's not just CCP doing it, but they are very much a part of the problem.
If they wanted to kick start their game they shouldn't act like scumbags on pricing. |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.25 08:54:00 -
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Ask Sony, not CCP :) |
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