DUST Search - Wouldn't you consider this stealing?

Cyn Bruin wrote:

All the facts/nonfacts aside. This should show people this IS NOT A BETA ANYMORE. When a company receives money for its software, it's not a beta anymore. This has been a paid "beta" for along time.

In CCP's initial contract to us the players, it said all aurum would be refunded when game launches right?

Then it was adjusted by them (legal?) and this is no longer the case. CCP will keep this game in a state of "beta" as long as they can. This allows them to shrug off all complaints as unfinished software and avoid any legal ramifications of changing their "aurum refunded" policy.

I have no internal knowledge of the happenings with Pdiggy22 or CCP during this time. But I do know that MANY people posted up videos of DUST514 during closed beta. Some were taken down by youtube, some werent, but the posters of said videos were never perma-banned like him. Some were definitely banned, but not to this extent.

Once again tag interferes with rational thinking. Was he in the wrong in posting videos during "closed beta" even though you could buy into it?

I think he violated the agreement and probably deserved some punishment because of the contract. But if you are going to perma-ban one person for it, you have to perma-ban them all and that didn't happen.


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Dalton Smithe OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 70	Posted - 2013.03.23 07:07:00 - [1] - Quote Cyn Bruin wrote: All the facts/nonfacts aside. This should show people this IS NOT A BETA ANYMORE. When a company receives money for its software, it's not a beta anymore. This has been a paid "beta" for along time. In CCP's initial contract to us the players, it said all aurum would be refunded when game launches right? Then it was adjusted by them (legal?) and this is no longer the case. CCP will keep this game in a state of "beta" as long as they can. This allows them to shrug off all complaints as unfinished software and avoid any legal ramifications of changing their "aurum refunded" policy. I have no internal knowledge of the happenings with Pdiggy22 or CCP during this time. But I do know that MANY people posted up videos of DUST514 during closed beta. Some were taken down by youtube, some werent, but the posters of said videos were never perma-banned like him. Some were definitely banned, but not to this extent. Once again tag interferes with rational thinking. Was he in the wrong in posting videos during "closed beta" even though you could buy into it? I think he violated the agreement and probably deserved some punishment because of the contract. But if you are going to perma-ban one person for it, you have to perma-ban them all and that didn't happen. Here is the thing, we don't know why CCP banned him. We don't know what he did. He posted videos, and his account was banned, whatever. He may have done something else entirely. He might have Given CCP a reason to perma ban his account. We don't know. All we know is that he feels he has been wronged by CCP and decided to post it on the forums. If you get permanently banned from a game, especially one that is handled server side, you don't get a refund, period. I doubt very highly that CCP banned him for no reason whatsoever. The truth of the matter is that we will only get one side of the story because CCP does not discuss the particulars of why they ban someone. All we have to go on is pdiggys word. You can really make a story up to be anything you want, even if you have a couple of e-mails to back you up. I feel bad he lost $10 bucks, but come on, ranting in a forum about something that he probably did to himself? meh