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Baal Omniscient
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Posted - 2013.03.22 04:05:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I really hope they just make Ambush no vehicles, instead of creating yet another new varation. no need to make another read my thread using the current 2 modes u make OMS able to drop vehicles and have vanilla changed to be infantry only
Too lazy to read the thread, thanks for the summary. And agreed 100%. |
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Posted - 2013.03.22 05:12:00 -
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gbghg wrote:
making an infantry only mode would affect lav's and dropships as well, some ambush maps are actually pretty fun to call lav's in and they make a good addition. but as i said before it comes done to poor map design, i mean manus peak practically screams for tanks to be called in but a couple of others (can't remember the names) have area's where only infantry can access while tanks are restricted to the outskirts and roads, these are the best maps as gives tankers the opportunity to get kills as enemy infantry moves about while also giving infantry a haven from the tank. we need more maps like this
*cough* Ok, so if you are referring to communication, biomass, etc., then I have to say no. The enclosed areas are not havens from tanks. Infantry are corralled there, pushed back by tank blasters and their splash damage combined with basic infantry support, allowing enemy infantry to safely approach and grenade spam, then rush in to mop up the remaining injured players. And since the new spawn system is the way it is, this now becomes a spawn camp area unless people get smart enough to wait until the last person in that area dies before they spawn in..
Until better maps are made then having OMS for everything and vanilla for non-tank related engagements is a solid mid-ground while we wait for these maps to be streamed in. |
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Posted - 2013.03.22 05:20:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:I don't think its a good idea to ostracize a portion of the community in a game mode.
Says Mr. Gunnlogi.
Tell you what. Add another game mode where you ride the bolas into battle in your vehicles, no one can exit the vehicle, and it's for vehicles only. I guarantee you that 90% of infantry won't feel ostracized. Sure, some AV players might feel a bit left out, but they can still run in skirmish and OMS to find vehicles, so they can get over it. Same goes here. Vehicle drivers can find plenty of targets in Skirmish and OMS. You'll get over it.
Heavy vehicles are too overbearing for game modes where you have to die in order to equip AV. |
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Posted - 2013.03.22 05:30:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:gbghg wrote:
making an infantry only mode would affect lav's and dropships as well, some ambush maps are actually pretty fun to call lav's in and they make a good addition. but as i said before it comes done to poor map design, i mean manus peak practically screams for tanks to be called in but a couple of others (can't remember the names) have area's where only infantry can access while tanks are restricted to the outskirts and roads, these are the best maps as gives tankers the opportunity to get kills as enemy infantry moves about while also giving infantry a haven from the tank. we need more maps like this
*cough* Ok, so if you are referring to communication, biomass, etc., then I have to say no. The enclosed areas are not havens from tanks. Infantry are corralled there, pushed back by tank blasters and their splash damage combined with basic infantry support, allowing enemy infantry to safely approach and grenade spam, then rush in to mop up the remaining injured players. And since the new spawn system is the way it is, this now becomes a spawn camp area unless people get smart enough to wait until the last person in that area dies before they spawn in.. Until better maps are made then having OMS for everything and vanilla for non-tank related engagements is a solid mid-ground while we wait for these maps to be streamed in. was actually referring to skim junction and the map that has b inside the tower, but what you described was what tanks and infantry working together can do, the main problem there is that the spawn system keeps dropping everyone into the ****
Skim junction still ends up pinning infantry inside bravo, which leads to the grenade spam, and the inevitable mop up/spawn camp.
Even if the spawn system worked perfectly, it still leaves infantry spawning either in the open (tank fodder) or in an enclosed area (grenade fodder). A comprehensive spawn overhaul would help, but it would not solve the issue of being unable to handle a tank without hindering your ability to deal with infantry or losing a fitting.
And as for AV grenades, most people use locust or flux grenades until they see a need for them since grenades are so useful for dealing with infantry. And when a vehicle comes out? Well, have to lose my fitting to deal with it, gotta die now. If you start in with AV grenades, you lose most of your ability to handle entrenched enemies (unless you use a mass driver oc). |
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Posted - 2013.03.23 05:37:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:Deluxe Edition wrote:I don't think its a good idea to ostracize a portion of the community in a game mode. Says Mr. Gunnlogi. Tell you what. Add another game mode where you ride the bolas into battle in your vehicles, no one can exit the vehicle, and it's for vehicles only. I guarantee you that 90% of infantry won't feel ostracized. Sure, some AV players might feel a bit left out, but they can still run in skirmish and OMS to find vehicles, so they can get over it. Same goes here. Vehicle drivers can find plenty of targets in Skirmish and OMS. You'll get over it. Heavy vehicles are too overbearing for game modes where you have to die in order to equip AV. Up until 2 weeks ago I was exclusively assault, and now I play 50/50 depending on my mood. I only went tanks because we lack one in our corp and its been hurting us in corp battles.
I was just ribbing you on that, it seems everyone these days has at least a FEW skills into vehicles. Nothing wrong with it. |
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Posted - 2013.03.24 11:42:00 -
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EKH0 0ne wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Vin Vicious wrote:PIMP MAC DADDY 2100374163 wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=633845#post633845 [REQUEST] Changes to Ambush and Ambush OMS - new modes such as infantry only on ambush. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=63337&find=unreadUpdate: This is being considered. Yes! Didn't know why people were so against this...well the people besides the tank spamming leet players who farm kills on Ambush. People who are looking for a quick gun on gun game mode, can finally do so without the fair of tank / LAV spamming. People arguing about it's too much like "CoD"... really? So CoD is the only game ever made that's infantry only? Plus it's another game mode, not THE ONLY GAME MODE. You have a choice between Infantry only Ambush, or normal Ambush. Want to spam your tanks? Ambush. Want to get raped by tanks being followed by infantry? Ambush. Want gun on gun action, Infantry only Ambush. It's a win win imo. I wish someone can tell me what's wrong with that. Nice now I can play a match without being spamed by a scattered Ion cannon yep now you can get spamed by noobtubes without worrying about getting spamed by scattered ion cannons. baby steps Try using a mass driver, dumbshit. They take the most practice out of everything in the game to be good with. Lol, I already did that on an Alt charachter. Results? Its a noob tube. 3 games of practice is all i needed So whos a dumbshit now?
If you have to ask.... it's probably you.
And I can confirm that for you. It is you. You're calling a weapon that is slow firing, deals severely reduced damage to shields (almost all suits are shield suits these days), one of the most difficult weapons to aim at a distance in the game, the only handheld weapon besides the forge gun and laser that can hurt the user, almost entirely useless against enemies at a higher altitude than you, and having devastatingly limited ammo capacity a noob tube weapon.
But let me put it this way... if it was a super easy noob tube, where are all of the cheap little CoD players who would love to exploit it? I've seen plenty of people try, but 90% of the time go back to the AR because it get's too hard to use. Where are all of the noob tubers brah? 'Cause I'm lucky if I see one mass driver in a match on either team, and when I do it's usually me because I got tired of shooting the AR. |
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