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Sleekit1
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Posted - 2013.03.20 22:04:00 -
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Is it always the tank driver who also mans the main gun?
Jumped aboard a few times but only the secondary armament is available to man. Seems odd that both driving Nd manning the main guns, both requiring considerable concentration, are tasks performed by the same man. A whole squad in a tank would make a formidable impact.
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all die together!
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Y0UR NAME HERE
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Posted - 2013.03.20 22:13:00 -
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No tank driver wants his main defense system manned by a blueberry, our tank, our isk, our skills.
People have tried a long time to separate driver from main gun, probably to further incapacitate tanks as they are already underpowered to skilled Av.
If someone doesn't have the concentration to do both, they shouldn't be in a tank.
I find it no problem whatsoever to drive and shoot.
Also the tank driver doesn't just shoot and drive,
He may have to shoot drive and turn on off modules wait for cycles ect.
You see a good tank driver give em respect and listen to what we want, to drive, gun, and operate our tanks, as well as a kick all out button to get randoms out of our turrets,
Tank drivers don't need community opinions of how we should have to play because it looks hard.
Not being mean with my post but this has been brought up a lot to separate the two things, and its a terrible idea. |
Severance Pay
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2013.03.20 22:28:00 -
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Who you put n the driver's seat is your choice. If you don't want BBs n your tank then dont bring it to ambush. What he is suggesting is that you have to change seats just like we do with LAV and dropships. It makes perfect sense. I don't think tanks are OPnor unbalanced the only thing that isn't fair is that you don't need to change seats to use the turret but the other vehicles do. |
Nemo Bluntz
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.20 22:32:00 -
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Non-driver tank guns are ass anyway. Those guys can sit around be useless all they want. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
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Posted - 2013.03.20 22:33:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote:Who you put n the driver's seat is your choice. If you don't want BBs n your tank then dont bring it to ambush. What he is suggesting is that you have to change seats just like we do with LAV and dropships. It makes perfect sense. I don't think tanks are OPnor unbalanced the only thing that isn't fair is that you don't need to change seats to use the turret but the other vehicles do.
LAV's are free and have starter fits, they're also meant for troop transport like DS's.
Tanks are meant to heavily assault the enemy, not carry blues around.
When we get fighters in the sky, heavy Ariel ships ect, these things too will be driven and gunned by 1 person.
Your statement is illogical due to the fact your comparing a tank to troop transport vehicles, which are by no means meant to assault heavily defended objectives. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.03.20 22:34:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:No tank driver wants his main defense system manned by a blueberry, our tank, our isk, our skills.
People have tried a long time to separate driver from main gun, probably to further incapacitate tanks as they are already underpowered to skilled Av.
If someone doesn't have the concentration to do both, they shouldn't be in a tank.
I find it no problem whatsoever to drive and shoot.
Also the tank driver doesn't just shoot and drive,
He may have to shoot drive and turn on off modules wait for cycles ect.
You see a good tank driver give em respect and listen to what we want, to drive, gun, and operate our tanks, as well as a kick all out button to get randoms out of our turrets,
Tank drivers don't need community opinions of how we should have to play because it looks hard.
Not being mean with my post but this has been brought up a lot to separate the two things, and its a terrible idea.
who are the retards that keep suggesting ppl seperate main gun from driver
prob ppl who keep running right at tanks and shooting ARs at it
let me bold this:
see that bolded.....thats the truth
part of the skill in tankin is being able to micro manage ur mods while keepin concentration on ur targets and enemy AV and other tanks
ppl QQ alot about tanks but its 99% of the time from ppl who get raped by them or dont even use them
they just happen to be on the receiving end of a good tanker ass kickin and come to the forums to QQ
htfu ppl if u still QQing about not being able to take out a tank then the squad ur with is terrible.
tanks atm need infantry support if a dedicated AV squad around |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.03.20 22:38:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote:Who you put n the driver's seat is your choice. If you don't want BBs n your tank then dont bring it to ambush. What he is suggesting is that you have to change seats just like we do with LAV and dropships. It makes perfect sense. I don't think tanks are OPnor unbalanced the only thing that isn't fair is that you don't need to change seats to use the turret but the other vehicles do.
No, shut up blueberry |
Sleekit1
Air Core
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Posted - 2013.03.20 22:38:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:No tank driver wants his main defense system manned by a blueberry, our tank, our isk, our skills.
People have tried a long time to separate driver from main gun, probably to further incapacitate tanks as they are already underpowered to skilled Av.
If someone doesn't have the concentration to do both, they shouldn't be in a tank.
I find it no problem whatsoever to drive and shoot.
Also the tank driver doesn't just shoot and drive,
He may have to shoot drive and turn on off modules wait for cycles ect.
You see a good tank driver give em respect and listen to what we want, to drive, gun, and operate our tanks, as well as a kick all out button to get randoms out of our turrets,
Tank drivers don't need community opinions of how we should have to play because it looks hard.
Not being mean with my post but this has been brought up a lot to separate the two things, and its a terrible idea.
No meanness noted mate.
Wasn't aware it had been discussed in the past. I enjoy riding "shotgun" covering the other arcs and watching for mercs getting too close. I hop from one secondary turret to the next as the need demands. I have considered skilling into turrets but it seems as if this may well be a pointless exercise if many other tankers have similar views to yours (which I completely understand, your isk etc......) .
Cheers |
Severance Pay
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.20 23:25:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Severance Pay wrote:Who you put n the driver's seat is your choice. If you don't want BBs n your tank then dont bring it to ambush. What he is suggesting is that you have to change seats just like we do with LAV and dropships. It makes perfect sense. I don't think tanks are OPnor unbalanced the only thing that isn't fair is that you don't need to change seats to use the turret but the other vehicles do. LAV's are free and have starter fits, they're also meant for troop transport like DS's. Tanks are meant to heavily assault the enemy, not carry blues around. When we get fighters in the sky, heavy Ariel ships ect, these things too will be driven and gunned by 1 person. Your statement is illogical due to the fact your comparing a tank to troop transport vehicles, which are by no means meant to assault heavily defended objectives.
Arguing the assumed purpose of the vehicle is symantics. Explain to me why you can get a cru in your tank? It would make more sense to take more boots off the ground in order to run the devastating weapons platform. I simply don't understand why it doesn't make perfect sense and why every tank driver insists that driving and shooting can be done at the same time. Even Crypts and Bloods gotta have a guy drive while everyone shoots. It sucks for him cuz he wants to shoot too and get kills but even he knows you can't shoot and drive. |
SteelDark Knight
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Posted - 2013.03.20 23:55:00 -
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Sleekit1 wrote:
No meanness noted mate.
Wasn't aware it had been discussed in the past. I enjoy riding "shotgun" covering the other arcs and watching for mercs getting too close. I hop from one secondary turret to the next as the need demands. I have considered skilling into turrets but it seems as if this may well be a pointless exercise if many other tankers have similar views to yours (which I completely understand, your isk etc......) .
Cheers
I don't believe most Tankers mind a "good" turret operator. With that said a good turret operator is often more of a asset outside of the HAV then in it. If you understand that there are times that you will need to jump out to hack a point the HAV cleared, kill a close proximity AV person whom is using cover, and in extreme cases use AV against a opposing tanker that might outclass yours I don't believe you will have any problems finding a willing driver.
On that note it also helps if you don't shoot at the enemy MCC just for kicks...... |
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BOZ MR
BurgezzE.T.F
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.20 23:58:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote:Who you put n the driver's seat is your choice. If you don't want BBs n your tank then dont bring it to ambush. What he is suggesting is that you have to change seats just like we do with LAV and dropships. It makes perfect sense. I don't think tanks are OPnor unbalanced the only thing that isn't fair is that you don't need to change seats to use the turret but the other vehicles do.
Let me use your AR while you walk, it is unfair. In Lav you have to change seats. Believe me I will not shoot tanks with AR. |
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