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![N1ck Comeau N1ck Comeau](https://forums.dust514.com/themes/ccpDust514/dust-avatar-128.png)
N1ck Comeau
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.19 18:11:00 -
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http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/03/18/leaderboard-defiance-vs-dust-514/
Please click on the link above ^^^^^^^
Vote for Dust.
We are sooo close to beating them.
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XANDER KAG
Crimson Wings Brigade
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Posted - 2013.03.19 18:13:00 -
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2.3% to go as of my vote |
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GeneralButtNaked
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.19 18:16:00 -
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Why even compare the two?
Defiance comes out on the 2nd of next month.
Dust doesn't even get to 0.8 before May. It is an even longer road to 1.0 from there.
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.03.19 18:19:00 -
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Because who would like to pay to play another world of warcraft clone... oh those people who think defiance is a first person shooter game that has more in common with guns and bullets than wizards and dragons.
Defiance> I cast spore cannon +2 onto target, debuff effects are poison damage + accuracy down. I cast directional shield, immune from all damage from the front. I cast fortitude 2500 + HP to party I mean squad. Bad guys in defiance> Ah you cant shoot me I have retaliation, if shot I can hit back 100% more damage!!! Or I got a reflective shield that no matter what angle you hit the shield at It will bounce back and hit you. |
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N1ck Comeau
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.19 18:19:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:Why even compare the two?
Defiance comes out on the 2nd of next month.
Dust doesn't even get to 0.8 before May. It is an even longer road to 1.0 from there.
I understand your thoughts but still lets just win it for the sake of winning. |
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Jaden HGhar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2013.03.19 18:19:00 -
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2.0% to go
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N1ck Comeau
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.19 18:20:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Because who would like to pay to play another world of warcraft clone... oh those people who think defiance is a first person shooter game that has more in common with guns and bullets than wizards and dragons.
Defiance> I cast spore cannon +2 onto target, debuff effects are poison damage + accuracy down. I cast directional shield, immune from all damage from the front. I cast fortitude 2500 + HP to party I mean squad.
Defiance is a 3rd person shooter which is the main reason i don't like it. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.03.19 18:21:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Because who would like to pay to play another world of warcraft clone... oh those people who think defiance is a first person shooter game that has more in common with guns and bullets than wizards and dragons.
Defiance> I cast spore cannon +2 onto target, debuff effects are poison damage + accuracy down. I cast directional shield, immune from all damage from the front. I cast fortitude 2500 + HP to party I mean squad.
Defiance is a 3rd person shooter which is the main reason i don't like it.
I just don't like it because I do see the wow clone in it. I mean other than an HAV what else have you shoved 1000 bullets couple hundred rockets into and not see die? |
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N1ck Comeau
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.19 18:25:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Because who would like to pay to play another world of warcraft clone... oh those people who think defiance is a first person shooter game that has more in common with guns and bullets than wizards and dragons.
Defiance> I cast spore cannon +2 onto target, debuff effects are poison damage + accuracy down. I cast directional shield, immune from all damage from the front. I cast fortitude 2500 + HP to party I mean squad.
Defiance is a 3rd person shooter which is the main reason i don't like it. I just don't like it because I do see the wow clone in it. I mean other than an HAV what else have you shoved 1000 bullets couple hundred rockets into and not see die? Yea the idea of something not dieing after you do everything possibly to kill it is just plain dumb |
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Alcare Xavier Golden
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.03.19 18:29:00 -
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1.4% to go... |
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GeneralButtNaked
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.19 18:30:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote: I understand your thoughts but still lets just win it for the sake of winning.
Well that is just silly.
Why cast a vote for something that all the players know is not even close to release ready?
I'm not voting for defiance because I don't care about it.
I'm not voting for Dust because I am frankly very pessimistic about the release schedule. As it stands, the game is not worth voting for, beta or not. At the current pace, we might not even get to 1.0 this year.
If you compare the two on April 3rd, which will be the better game? That is what counts. |
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N1ck Comeau
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.19 18:35:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote: I understand your thoughts but still lets just win it for the sake of winning.
Well that is just silly. Why cast a vote for something that all the players know is not even close to release ready? I'm not voting for defiance because I don't care about it. I'm not voting for Dust because I am frankly very pessimistic about the release schedule. As it stands, the game is not worth voting for, beta or not. At the current pace, we might not even get to 1.0 this year. If you compare the two on April 3rd, which will be the better game? That is what counts. Well We'll have a comparison when the new build comes out |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.03.19 18:38:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote: I understand your thoughts but still lets just win it for the sake of winning.
Well that is just silly. Why cast a vote for something that all the players know is not even close to release ready? I'm not voting for defiance because I don't care about it. I'm not voting for Dust because I am frankly very pessimistic about the release schedule. As it stands, the game is not worth voting for, beta or not. At the current pace, we might not even get to 1.0 this year. If you compare the two on April 3rd, which will be the better game? That is what counts. They do have the "Meh, neither" option. |
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Cosorvin
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.03.19 18:38:00 -
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Bumpity bump bump bump |
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Cosorvin
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.03.19 18:55:00 -
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bump |
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Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.19 18:58:00 -
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E-peen stoking contest: Dust 514 V Defiance
Fight. |
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N1ck Comeau
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Posted - 2013.03.19 19:01:00 -
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We Must Win |
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Tyrael Valdare
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.19 19:06:00 -
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Just voted and now we're winning by 1 vote! |
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Medic 1879
The Tritan Industries
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Posted - 2013.03.19 19:07:00 -
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I voted meh because 1. Dust isn't finished yet so you cant really give it a proper review and 2. I haven't played defiance yet.
Poll seems kind of pointless "what game is better one that hasn't been released yet and is still under NDA for beta testers or one that hasn't been released yet but is an open beta with the NDA lifted." Only thing they have in common is no one has played the finished product yet and therefore cant give a 100% accurate rating. |
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Chris F2112
Killshot Corp
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Posted - 2013.03.19 19:22:00 -
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Dust is now winning by about 20 votes in this meaningless poll. |
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N1ck Comeau
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Posted - 2013.03.19 19:32:00 -
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Chris F2112 wrote:Dust is now winning by about 20 votes in this meaningless poll. Yep, and yea kinda meaningless more for bragging rights i guess. Pointless bragging over something meaningless i know
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.03.19 19:47:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:If you compare the two on April 3rd, which will be the better game? That is what counts. Unless you look at the primary focus of both games, which is the long-term.
Both games are tie-ins for another product/service. With Defiance, it's the TV series, and that tie-in is being promoted as the big reason why people will keep playing the game. With DUST, it's EVE Online, but that's NOT being promoted as the big reason why people will keep playing the game. The continued development plan coming from a studio with a proven history of actually updating their other game with new content on a regular basis over the past 10 years is the main reason CCP expect players to keep coming back to DUST.
One game is relying on a gimmick to keep people coming back, the other is offering them new stuff on a regular basis to keep them coming back. Both of these techniques have been attempted before on many occasions, and one of them has worked reliably.
That's why I voted for DUST, anyway. |
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.19 20:09:00 -
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Voted |
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Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.03.19 20:45:00 -
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What a bunch of children you guys are.
Rage voting will not win you anything... except being called extreme fanbois... |
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XANDER KAG
Crimson Wings Brigade
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Posted - 2013.03.19 20:49:00 -
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winning by 76! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0NIMTPYYcU |
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The Goram Batman
Forgotten Militia
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Posted - 2013.03.19 21:20:00 -
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I played the beta for Defiance, and it lacked some MMO features like actually getting parties together with your friends...plus it felt almost like a Borderlands clone. It sucked imo; I played for about two hours and got incredibly bored.
So DUST 514 definitely has my vote. |
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