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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
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Posted - 2013.03.19 14:33:00 -
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I fully support D-Uni taking and holding a few districts and don't see it being detrimental to its neutrality. The 'campus' will be an active battlefield at times which will serve as training for its members as well as giving leadership experience with the mechanics.
If there is anything my small organization can do to assist please let me know. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
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Posted - 2013.03.19 14:50:00 -
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Kamiya Musume wrote:Non-Aggression pacts, or any other form of contract, cannot be considered impartial or neutral. I cannot see any way in which Dust Uni can legitimise holding any territory, or allowing, or otherwise facilitating another corp holding territory without ignoring their fundamental goals and values.
I think you have painted yourself into a corner in this respect.
+1 for asking the community, at least you can say you are thoroughly transparent.
There is no true neutrality in New Eden. Ivy League already has their own list of reds and blues. They exist through diplomacy and suffer war on a regular basis.
I think the question they are asking is "does holding any territory make them look overly aggressive?" |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
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Posted - 2013.03.19 15:15:00 -
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Sextus Hardcock wrote:I suggest that you remain neutral, and do not take any Districts. Teach your students with Pubs, and later FW. Once they are competent, you can seek out smaller corps who need bodies for their own PCs.
Then, once ISK transfer for DUST goes live, I'm sure you'd find rich corps and mercs willing to help you out with your cause. Serve as a university, and make connections with the bigger stronger corps out there. They'll be happy to take your competent grads, and will compensate you for the effort.
No need to hold ground to make the ISKies, get paid for a specific service to the community, instead of competing in PC.
What's wrong with them having a campus? One to three districts won't be making them much money.
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
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Posted - 2013.03.19 15:34:00 -
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Sextus Hardcock wrote:I beleive that the competition will be pretty cuttthroat for the limited districts we have to fight over. DUST-U already has a unique niche as a neutral training corp. They will make more ISK from donations for providing a service to the community, while still preserving their neutrality.
This is a very valid concern. The pressure will be high at first due to the limit number of districts that will initially be made available. If they agree to a single district and declare their intent to not expand through conquest then I would join a non-aggression pact with them. I'm behind this because I think an institution such as this should be able to plant their flag and say, "this is our home." |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
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Posted - 2013.03.19 15:46:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:"Oh, I'm sorry that you were upset that some of our students fought against you when Carebears, Inc. attacked you last night. If you'd like, I'd be happy to put together a squad for you guys tonight when they attack again."
I support this. A mercenary is a soldier for hire and the uni should be able to let them work as such.
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
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Posted - 2013.03.19 15:57:00 -
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Alcare Xavier Golden wrote:... that and exposure to the new mechanic...
This is something that must be considered. Even though only the leadership will be involved in managing districts they will need that experience in order to pass it on to their recruits.
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
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Posted - 2013.03.19 16:19:00 -
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3 bird wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Alcare Xavier Golden wrote:... that and exposure to the new mechanic... This is something that must be considered. Even though only the leadership will be involved in managing districts they will need that experience in order to pass it on to their recruits. This is a relatively minor thing. What I am expecting in P.C is a completely different tactical objective. From what I read it sound like the attackers objective is killing as many clones as possible while keeping your own mcc alive the longest possible time. notice no focus on destroying the hostile MCC. Where as the defenders it will be the complete reverse, Primary target is the hostile MCC while attempting to keep as many clones as possible. If I'm right, or even close to it with that assessment (and that we will only really get to see once P.C is implemented) there will be 2 very distinct play styles and tactics used exclusively for P.C. It is that mentality and understanding I want us to be able to pass on to our students ideally before they move on to there home corp. I feel that failing to teach them this aspect of DUST would leave us passing on student that are not tactically aware or skilled for these fights. To my mind it would be like training students to fight PvE in EVE and then sending them off as PvP pilots. That would be a catastrophic failure on our part.
I didn't consider this. Good point.
Maybe the New Eden university system needs a planet and all the collegiate corps can just fight it out while reserving a home district for each to generate clones.
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
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Posted - 2013.03.19 16:21:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Academy, College, and University then "conquer" their assigned "fixed" districts in staged crap battles with the Major Leagues.
Did we just suggest the same thing at the same time? |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
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Posted - 2013.03.19 16:28:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:As its been suggested a couple of times. What is the general feeling then of the community of a Merc remaining neutral by fighting for anyone?
Would such a freelance corp still be seen as neutral and a corp that business could be done with as long as they were open about it?
Being open is the key. Declare your position and post your rules.
From what I understand the client will need to provide the squad leaders anyway. Since there is no means to pass ISK outside of a corporation at this point you could have a channel where squad leaders could come and ask for mercenaries and their pay would come from the normal match mechanics. Unless you specifically banned certain corps or alliances from this "merc bazaar" then it would be up to each student to provide their services. Basically, you would have a "looking for squad" channel.
Once the game mechanics open up then methods of payment would have to be considered. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
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Posted - 2013.03.19 16:34:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Academy, College, and University then "conquer" their assigned "fixed" districts in staged crap battles with the Major Leagues. Did we just suggest the same thing at the same time? This is a good idea. I think CCP should just assign 3-4 districts to DU and let them duke it out there. It will be a good source of income and practice for the students.
I doubt CCP would act directly and I don't think it's needed. The school corps can pick their own planet and set of districts, declare their intention, and go at it. Those that support the schools can help regulate interference from the community. The schools evolved from the players and should be managed by the players.
The player generated content surrounding this looks really interesting. I can see rogue corps attacking a school but that would provide experience for them. If it becomes overwhelming then stronger corps could step in.
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
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Posted - 2013.03.19 16:47:00 -
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Such a constructive thread. I can't wait to see what comes out of this. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
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Posted - 2013.03.19 17:17:00 -
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Hopefully CCP will provide for ISK transfer between mercs and DUST corp wallets soon. I would certainly pay for classes for my guys and would like to see classes offered by DU that brings in top caliber talent from the community as well. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
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Posted - 2013.03.19 18:07:00 -
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Synthetic-Method wrote:Are the core game mechanics going to be radically different (referring to the grunt experience)?
I know this wasn't directed at me but the big obvious difference will be friendly fire. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
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Posted - 2013.03.19 19:49:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Bojo's School of the Trades wants in, we will be seeing you in conquest Uni Calling all Allies! Red Rocks! Legacy Rising! Hell even those few people from PFBHz!
Hey, Bojo. I could use some training. Can't figure out the stick shift on this tank...
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