DUST Search - Make Swarm Launchers Sidearms

Skihids wrote:

Django Quik wrote:

Skihids wrote:

Ok, let's just let SL's lock onto infantry and your infantry problem goes away...

A long time ago you could dumbfire SLs but it just made it a ridiculously OP anti-infantry weapon. If you could lock onto infantry, it would be even more ridiculous.

Rusty Shallows wrote:

My concern would be the potential for the Assault/AR/Swarm fit as a standard and the Vehicle Apocalypse happening.

Truest thing said in this thread. Absolutely everyone would rock a SL sidearm and this would make everyone an AV player, allowing no vehicle a chance on the battlefield but also removing AV as a niche.

That was sarcasm to point out that the OP was asking for something absurd.

Giving every assult player AV on top of their AR would negate the role of dedicated AV, but that's the mentality of so many folks coming from other FPS's. Other games have only one role with slight modifications, not the Rock/Paper/Scissors of DUST.

We've seen this type of request before and we will see it many more times.


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Django Quik R.I.f.t 303	Posted - 2013.03.18 18:06:00 - [1] - Quote At first I thought this must be a troll post but reading the whole thing you seem deadly serious, so I'll address this as such. I run dedicated AV with swarms, though I'm only currently up to lvl 3. You have to spec up in sidearms too, then you can still be effective at anti-infantry. I can't count the number of times someone has obviously seen me swarming on my own from a remote area and thought I was an easy target, so tried to sneak up on me for the derp kill. Only for me to turn around and scrambler pistol them into the ground with a few quick trigger presses. In fact I got so good at sidearms through this practice that when I'm not needed for AV I run pistol with SMG and am pretty darn deadly. Unfortunately, you're still going to have problems in a 8 vs 8 corp battle if the enemy brings out a Surya or Sagaris because you'll need 3 or 4 skilled (both ability and SP) AV players to take one down unless you've got a decent tank supporting them and that's half your team already on the fringes of the battle.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 305	Posted - 2013.03.18 18:26:00 - [2] - Quote I generally hit top 3 - 5 on the scoreboard because I'll often get a tonne of LAVs and maybe a dropship too, adding up to easily 10+ kills and then anyone I manage to pistol in the face too. If I get a tank, or two, or three (got 4 in 1 game the other day pretty much solo) I get lots of isk - I'm pretty sure isk is awarded mostly according to the value of the gear you've destroyed. Some matches I've gotten close to 400K isk.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 305	Posted - 2013.03.18 18:38:00 - [3] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: So tanks and infantry are using teamwork? Use your own teamwork to counter; have some other players take out the infantry while you take out the tank. To be able to destroy an expensive tank is not a power that should come without a great scarifice, it is a good thing that you can't both handle tanks and infantry, or else it would be imbalanced in favor of AV. You should know there will be big changed to fanction warfare (currently "corp battles"), there will be 32 player planetary conquest battles for corps. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=63760 Planetary Conquest isn't replacing FW; they will coexist.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 311	Posted - 2013.03.19 10:29:00 - [4] - Quote Skihids wrote: Ok, let's just let SL's lock onto infantry and your infantry problem goes away... A long time ago you could dumbfire SLs but it just made it a ridiculously OP anti-infantry weapon. If you could lock onto infantry, it would be even more ridiculous. Rusty Shallows wrote: My concern would be the potential for the Assault/AR/Swarm fit as a standard and the Vehicle Apocalypse happening. Truest thing said in this thread. Absolutely everyone would rock a SL sidearm and this would make everyone an AV player, allowing no vehicle a chance on the battlefield but also removing AV as a niche.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 314	Posted - 2013.03.19 13:01:00 - [5] - Quote Skihids wrote: Django Quik wrote: Skihids wrote: Ok, let's just let SL's lock onto infantry and your infantry problem goes away... A long time ago you could dumbfire SLs but it just made it a ridiculously OP anti-infantry weapon. If you could lock onto infantry, it would be even more ridiculous. Rusty Shallows wrote: My concern would be the potential for the Assault/AR/Swarm fit as a standard and the Vehicle Apocalypse happening. Truest thing said in this thread. Absolutely everyone would rock a SL sidearm and this would make everyone an AV player, allowing no vehicle a chance on the battlefield but also removing AV as a niche. That was sarcasm to point out that the OP was asking for something absurd. Giving every assult player AV on top of their AR would negate the role of dedicated AV, but that's the mentality of so many folks coming from other FPS's. Other games have only one role with slight modifications, not the Rock/Paper/Scissors of DUST. We've seen this type of request before and we will see it many more times. Lol yup okay, gotcha (damn [/sarcasm] tab didn't show ;p). But there was someone else earlier actually suggesting dumbfire SLs, so the point still needed to be made. FYI I do believe the plasma launcher is set to be a dumbfire AV weapon but I don't think it's going to be anything like what a dumbfire swarm was like.