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Cross Atu wrote:

Virex Staz wrote:

Furrow33 wrote:

I haven't seen the name mentioned but i would think that one obviouse merc that should be considered is Zion Shad. I mean the guy regularly talks about dust on podside and runs a respectable corp that i was once a part of. He's interviewed ccp dev's numerous times. He was considering running for csm. Seems to me he would make a good fit. If not now im sure he'll be voted in down the road.

There's a bunch of people with a real hate-on for Shad, so every time he speaks or is mentioned now there's a wave of crap posted that people don't want to have to deal with. This has reached the level that I think it will stop him being successful as a representative for Dust players, and he doesn't seem to have found a counter to it. Its not fair, but that's politics.

Assuming it's "not fair" is assuming that the reputation and backlash is unearned, even just with what has been done publicly on these forums it's clearly not 'just a mistake'. Read what happened with Kain and the event he was organizing, granted it came out right in the end but only after a public kitten storm. Putting the cookie back after you've been caught with your hand in the jar doesn't negate your original actions which created the situation. Many of the individuals who have a "real hate-on" for Shad have very specific and legitimate reasons for the outlook, being a podcast 'celebrity' does not wipe away the consequences of how you treat people, nor should it.

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ps ~ I'm not going to drag this thread off topic by rehashing the above, if you want details ask the parties involved in each specific instance and/or simply use the forums search command.


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Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1688	Posted - 2013.04.12 01:05:00 - [1] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: Virex Staz wrote: Furrow33 wrote: I haven't seen the name mentioned but i would think that one obviouse merc that should be considered is Zion Shad. I mean the guy regularly talks about dust on podside and runs a respectable corp that i was once a part of. He's interviewed ccp dev's numerous times. He was considering running for csm. Seems to me he would make a good fit. If not now im sure he'll be voted in down the road. There's a bunch of people with a real hate-on for Shad, so every time he speaks or is mentioned now there's a wave of crap posted that people don't want to have to deal with. This has reached the level that I think it will stop him being successful as a representative for Dust players, and he doesn't seem to have found a counter to it. Its not fair, but that's politics. Assuming it's "not fair" is assuming that the reputation and backlash is unearned, even just with what has been done publicly on these forums it's clearly not 'just a mistake'. Read what happened with Kain and the event he was organizing, granted it came out right in the end but only after a public kitten storm. Putting the cookie back after you've been caught with your hand in the jar doesn't negate your original actions which created the situation. Many of the individuals who have a "real hate-on" for Shad have very specific and legitimate reasons for the outlook, being a podcast 'celebrity' does not wipe away the consequences of how you treat people, nor should it. 0.02 ISK Cross ps ~ I'm not going to drag this thread off topic by rehashing the above, if you want details ask the parties involved in each specific instance and/or simply use the forums search command. You bring up a poor example Cross, not only did I make a public apology because I had no idea Kain emailed CCP, but also supported the tourney that Kain put together after and CCP funded. Kains a cool cat man, don't speak for him.
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1691	Posted - 2013.04.12 15:52:00 - [2] - Quote I'll say this about the WC, I'm in the camp of having CCP be involved with picking candidates. I'd like to see a "Community Service" section added to this site that allows those who want to be active in the community to both register themselves and also submit their community work. It could be in the form of just submitting links and gaining community points. If this becomes a reality then a reward system could be put in place somewhere down the road and from it could help determine who candidates may be.
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1691	Posted - 2013.04.12 20:11:00 - [3] - Quote Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote: Too complex. Good people would get pissed off and missed out on simply because it's too much hassle doing all that. Not to sure about that if it's done proper. For now most community projects and works are pointed out to CCP by way of e-mails, forums and twitter. What would be wrong to have a place here where you already log-in to use the forums and be able to submit a link to your blog posts, wiki work, youtube videos, so on and have it all registered and associated to your user account. It just seems to me as a way to save both the player and CCP time, plus help in giving recognition where it is do.
Zion Shad ZionTCD Legacy Rising 1691	Posted - 2013.04.12 22:49:00 - [4] - Quote @ Cerebral Wolf - You do make a good point and I do agree that other skill and elements should be considered. By the way well done on your work with the OB exploit. @Cap Awesome - I'm glad to hear that this is an idea in the works in some form. Please add a link so I can check out your site.