Trust seems to be given rather than gained; Who is to blame?

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I think it's more a security issue, not having any security on your team speak in the first place allowed this to build up to it's current level but even then, he knew i was in his his corp for quite some time and did nothing about it because they don't have the skill set to find a route out spys yet.

They know they are there, but are unable to do a damn thing about it.

Its alright I guess but not really my thing, I can see it being amusing for some but if I was Zion I wouldn't even sweat it. I guess the more you are seriously invested into the game the more vunerable you can make yourself for a attack but I honestly wouldn't take any in game stuff too serious. Plans usually change down the line and nobody even knows what dust will be like in the future. I hear infiltration is huge on eve but eve is already a well established game that's been around forever. This infiltration stuff will all be forgotten if dust fails and doesn't make it passed its beta stages. Some find entertainment in fantasy, role playing and being moles for Intel. I get my fix from straight up playing the game and competing. Sitting and spying on dudes and getting hours of recordings from them sounds a little creepy to me.

When you guys get intel that lets you take a district and earn 500m isk with no effort you'll get it.

When you guys get intel that lets you take a district and earn 500m isk with no effort you'll get it.

Its alright I guess but not really my thing, I can see it being amusing for some but if I was Zion I wouldn't even sweat it. I guess the more you are seriously invested into the game the more vunerable you can make yourself for a attack but I honestly wouldn't take any in game stuff too serious. Plans usually change down the line and nobody even knows what dust will be like in the future. I hear infiltration is huge on eve but eve is already a well established game that's been around forever. This infiltration stuff will all be forgotten if dust fails and doesn't make it passed its beta stages. Some find entertainment in fantasy, role playing and being moles for Intel. I get my fix from straight up playing the game and competing. Sitting and spying on dudes and getting hours of recordings from them sounds a little creepy to me.

You can listen to a corp for months and be like zomg! I have all there secrets they are so finished but then you have to actually be able to finish them right?

I have a question, if a dust corp never ends up progressing into being able to hold there own gun game battle wise on the every day bases would infiltration be there only crutch on remaining relevant?

I have a question, if a dust corp never ends up progressing into being able to hold there own gun game battle wise on the every day bases would infiltration be there only crutch on remaining relevant?

I take that's aimed at us? Because you know we won a corp battle against you last night didn't we Gunner?

I take that's aimed at us? Because you know we won a corp battle against you last night didn't we Gunner?

You should see it in EvE. Its like some of the people there just live and breath just for EvE. There real life bodies are the game and their EvE personas are the real them. Some video games seem to transcend just being a game in the end. I lost a friend to playing EvE who became obsessed with it to such an extent. Kind of sad and really really creepy.

no its aimed at everyone on dust who plans on using infiltration to try to gain a edge. I heard nobody made it into that corp match on time and you guys got in early and had the objectives taken before we could get 5 in against your 8 and our new recruit impswarm guys did better then everyone in your corp lol. I peaked in and seen everyone in your corp went negative and almost lost even though you had a full 8 and sat in there after the match started waiting for gunner to field some swarm to train them lol.

All I have to say is nice job for recording that meeting

I understand real life money and years of time is invested in eve so I can see some infiltrations being devastating to some. I have another question though and it ties to my original question. How can a infiltration devastate a well established corp who always holds there own? Like on eve I am sure many tried to and have infiltrated goon swarm and they may have cost them time and money but has that ever really stopped them from being rich and playing the game how they wanted to play it? I understand they are good at setting moles up as well. Dust and Eve are still two very different games though. Time will tell on if dust will even last while I hope it does we know one thing is for sure and that's eve is here to stay.

But that is New Eden for you. It is a fun game to play but I've seen computer set-ups just to run 4+ clients at once for all their characters. When a game becomes your life it is time to take a step back. And while I like immersion and thought in a game these kind of events are taken to the extreme.

Its alright I guess but not really my thing, I can see it being amusing for some but if I was Zion I wouldn't even sweat it. I guess the more you are seriously invested into the game the more vunerable you can make yourself for a attack but I honestly wouldn't take any in game stuff too serious. Plans usually change down the line and nobody even knows what dust will be like in the future. I hear infiltration is huge on eve but eve is already a well established game that's been around forever. This infiltration stuff will all be forgotten if dust fails and doesn't make it passed its beta stages. Some find entertainment in fantasy, role playing and being moles for Intel. I get my fix from straight up playing the game and competing. Sitting and spying on dudes and getting hours of recordings from them sounds a little creepy to me.