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IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
410
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Posted - 2013.03.17 01:01:00 -
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I have no complains against the shotgun. In every other shooter the shotgun 1HKO's. Here in Dust it's 2 shots minimum for anyone who has at least a type 2 suit on. |
Calamity Jane II
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
52
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Posted - 2013.03.17 01:03:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:DTOracle wrote:Though that's an insane # to solo in ambush. You clearly were up against scrubs on a good cqc map. If you tell me you did this on manus peak, against an organized squad of decent players, then paint me impressed. I played against Calamity Jones II from SVER True Blood yesterday.... she went 76/7 on manus peak, in a skirmish. They still lost.... but wow. I have to say that takes a fair amount of skill though, I don't know a lot of people who can do anywhere near that well with a shotgun. It was with the CreoDron and a vk. 1 though... so....
Yeah i did some work on that map. to be fair it was 73-7 with proto shoty and proto suit on the peaks. best game ever, but alot of it was up close thankfully and not ranged. Still I agree with the posts here about range. I can hit a fly on a players face plate from miles away. CCP should really look into the light weapons range modifications, cause as much as i love hitting at a distance i feel the same way about certain other weapons that hit me from miles out. |
mikegunnz
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
436
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Posted - 2013.03.17 01:05:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:I have no complains against the shotgun. In every other shooter the shotgun 1HKO's. Here in Dust it's 2 shots minimum for anyone who has at least a type 2 suit on.
Not true, it'll 1-shot a type2 also. It can one shot up to around 500hp (in close with shot hitting dead center)
If there is strafing involved, you may not hit with all the "pellets" so it may take 2 shots.... but OHK potential is there. |
mikegunnz
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
436
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Posted - 2013.03.17 01:07:00 -
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Calamity Jane II wrote:2100 Angels wrote:DTOracle wrote:Though that's an insane # to solo in ambush. You clearly were up against scrubs on a good cqc map. If you tell me you did this on manus peak, against an organized squad of decent players, then paint me impressed. I played against Calamity Jones II from SVER True Blood yesterday.... she went 76/7 on manus peak, in a skirmish. They still lost.... but wow. I have to say that takes a fair amount of skill though, I don't know a lot of people who can do anywhere near that well with a shotgun. It was with the CreoDron and a vk. 1 though... so.... Yeah i did some work on that map. to be fair it was 73-7 with proto shoty and proto suit on the peaks. best game ever, but alot of it was up close thankfully and not ranged. Still I agree with the posts here about range. I can hit a fly on a players face plate from miles away. CCP should really look into the light weapons range modifications, cause as much as i love hitting at a distance i feel the same way about certain other weapons that hit me from miles out.
"from the horse's mouth" (so to speak)
Maybe reduce the default range by 1/3? This way, after you apply level 5 sharpshooter, it still shouldn't be THAT far of a range. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
2073
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Posted - 2013.03.17 01:09:00 -
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Calamity Jane II wrote:Yeah i did some work on that map. to be fair it was 73-7 with proto shoty and proto suit on the peaks. best game ever, but alot of it was up close thankfully and not ranged. Still I agree with the posts here about range. I can hit a fly on a players face plate from miles away. CCP should really look into the light weapons range modifications, cause as much as i love hitting at a distance i feel the same way about certain other weapons that hit me from miles out. Nvm, again. Go home DUSt, you're drunk |
Morathi III
Rebelles A Quebec
71
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Posted - 2013.03.17 01:10:00 -
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NightEagle11 wrote:Played an ambush with a corp mate of mine, and went 57-3 scoring 2875 wp and getting a solo orbital all while using the shotgun.
I think its safe to say that this weapon needs a little bit of a tone down.... I stress the little bit because CCP has a habit of burying weapons 6 feet under when adjusting them. Assault suit with SG is a bit OP, i dont think you get same result as scout |
Morathi III
Rebelles A Quebec
71
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Posted - 2013.03.17 01:13:00 -
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DTOracle wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:DTOracle wrote:Though that's an insane # to solo in ambush. You clearly were up against scrubs on a good cqc map. If you tell me you did this on manus peak, against an organized squad of decent players, then paint me impressed. You're missing the point Einstein.... No, the shotty is a situational weapon. & you were in a optimal situation. Yes, matches like this are possible. But not every match, every time. Like the AR. Meaning it's not OP, IMO. True,AR user act like babies |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
469
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Posted - 2013.03.17 01:13:00 -
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Also, shotguns can hit you from far way for decent damage because of the reticle is somewhat off when it comes to spread. It looks like this O, when it should look like this ll. They have bad horizontal spread, so try strafing instead of just back stepping. |
Xavi Italia
One-Armed Bandits Hopeless Addiction
13
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Posted - 2013.03.17 03:27:00 -
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The issue with the shotguns now is their spread. Fighting a losing battle with a shotguner even when I manage to get some distance between him and I. |
Rusty Shallows
Creative Killers
11
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Posted - 2013.03.17 03:48:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:I prefer it when there are good AR and LR players bodyguarding the Snipers, and when there are occasional Snipers with situational awareness and sidearm skills. All snipers disregard Blacknova's advice. One of my few pleasures in this game it to walk up behind a sniper and giving him about two seconds of warning as the Assault Forge charges.
Shotguns... kind of wish they didn't get a damage bonus for head shots. I've had maybe two (or three) pure Bull-Patty moments with them. Not enough to think they are outright broken. |
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Winscar Shinobi
Better Hide R Die
77
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Posted - 2013.03.17 04:18:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Nope. Face a real squad, shotgun's don't do ****. Pull that off on Manus Peak, or Skim Junction, or Line Harvest.
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc518/Malcolm_Nolasco/346DD620-5D8B-4C4A-BFE9-528E5E46FFC8-353-0000003F4F7BA173_zpsc1a7d617.jpg
Need more? I've got quite a collection.
Raider scout suit with standard specialist shotgun. |
SkIlL Sh0oTeR
The Exemplars
50
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Posted - 2013.03.17 04:34:00 -
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Night Eagle ur such a beast, but yes shotguns need a slight nerf to their ROF and reload speed. It takes .6 secs to reload it should take longer than an assault rifle to reload. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
471
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Posted - 2013.03.17 04:39:00 -
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SkIlL Sh0oTeR wrote:Night Eagle ur such a beast, but yes shotguns need a slight nerf to their ROF and reload speed. It takes .6 secs to reload it should take longer than an assault rifle to reload. What difference does their reloading speed make, did you get killed by a shotgunner who reloaded right in front of your face? |
SkIlL Sh0oTeR
The Exemplars
50
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Posted - 2013.03.17 04:56:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:SkIlL Sh0oTeR wrote:Night Eagle ur such a beast, but yes shotguns need a slight nerf to their ROF and reload speed. It takes .6 secs to reload it should take longer than an assault rifle to reload. What difference does their reloading speed make, did you get killed by a shotgunner who reloaded right in front of your face?
because shotguns don't take less than a second to reload. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
309
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Posted - 2013.03.17 05:11:00 -
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NightEagle11 wrote:Played an ambush with a corp mate of mine, and went 57-3 scoring 2875 wp and getting a solo orbital all while using the shotgun.
I think its safe to say that this weapon needs a little bit of a tone down.... I stress the little bit because CCP has a habit of burying weapons 6 feet under when adjusting them.
If you're doing it regularly, then you can say it's an easy mode of sorts. I've pulled off 51:5 in a fitting that was really more about hacking, so I know how awesome it is to get on a good run with a shotty, but that was a one off at best. |
P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.03.17 05:50:00 -
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Ok so the other night I snuck up on a heavy and put two shots square in his back. Went to half armor turned around and sprayed me down with hmg before I could get a third shot off. But shotty is OP? HEAVYS ARE OP period. |
Disturbingly Bored
Universal Allies Inc.
151
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Posted - 2013.03.17 06:05:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Ok so the other night I snuck up on a heavy and put two shots square in his back. Went to half armor turned around and sprayed me down with hmg before I could get a third shot off. But shotty is OP? HEAVYS ARE OP period.
Nah. |
Coleman Gray
RED COLONIAL MARINES Covert Intervention
85
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Posted - 2013.03.17 06:13:00 -
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noob 45 wrote:
The forge gun can 1shot kill militia suits, so that needs to be nerfed..
What forge gun are you using that doesn't one shot Proto's? |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion
17
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Posted - 2013.03.17 06:16:00 -
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SkIlL Sh0oTeR wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:SkIlL Sh0oTeR wrote:Night Eagle ur such a beast, but yes shotguns need a slight nerf to their ROF and reload speed. It takes .6 secs to reload it should take longer than an assault rifle to reload. What difference does their reloading speed make, did you get killed by a shotgunner who reloaded right in front of your face? because shotguns don't take less than a second to reload.
:s have you ever used a shotgun? .6 seconds per round, for a total of 4.8 seconds to reload a full clip |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2013.03.17 06:18:00 -
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Best weapon at close range maybe,but the whole game ...no. |
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SkIlL Sh0oTeR
The Exemplars
50
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Posted - 2013.03.17 06:25:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:SkIlL Sh0oTeR wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:SkIlL Sh0oTeR wrote:Night Eagle ur such a beast, but yes shotguns need a slight nerf to their ROF and reload speed. It takes .6 secs to reload it should take longer than an assault rifle to reload. What difference does their reloading speed make, did you get killed by a shotgunner who reloaded right in front of your face? because shotguns don't take less than a second to reload. :s have you ever used a shotgun? .6 seconds per round, for a total of 4.8 seconds to reload a full clip
o is it per round if so then thats fine, and no i have yet to use a shotgun |
NightEagle11
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
23
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Posted - 2013.03.17 19:23:00 -
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SkIlL Sh0oTeR wrote:2100 Angels wrote:SkIlL Sh0oTeR wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:SkIlL Sh0oTeR wrote:Night Eagle ur such a beast, but yes shotguns need a slight nerf to their ROF and reload speed. It takes .6 secs to reload it should take longer than an assault rifle to reload. What difference does their reloading speed make, did you get killed by a shotgunner who reloaded right in front of your face? because shotguns don't take less than a second to reload. :s have you ever used a shotgun? .6 seconds per round, for a total of 4.8 seconds to reload a full clip o is it per round if so then thats fine, and no i have yet to use a shotgun
Yea it takers a little bit to reload but unlike other guns you can fire off a shot while reloading if you need too. Convenient at times. |
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