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Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.16 03:49:00 -
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I've been in a squad that was outnumbered almost 3-1 4 vs 10 pro. we still won, and I wasn't even able to field standard level suits yet. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.03.16 04:07:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:I propose that every other corp attack PRO once we get FW.
but don't planets come with their own npc defense for when you first get there? pro won't ever get a planet to attack. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.03.16 06:24:00 -
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Carl Dublin 2100118420 wrote:from the viewers perspective it looks pretty obvious there was on-going discussion between the two leaders which led to this "Surrender". As many sensible folk have been able to conclude, if anything the recording proves PRO to be the real winner in the situation.
yeah... no. Surrender is to victory as failure is to success. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.03.16 06:46:00 -
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Carl Dublin 2100118420 wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:Carl Dublin 2100118420 wrote:from the viewers perspective it looks pretty obvious there was on-going discussion between the two leaders which led to this "Surrender". As many sensible folk have been able to conclude, if anything the recording proves PRO to be the real winner in the situation.
yeah... no. Surrender is to victory as failure is to success. Again, you've missed the rather important part of what I said "on-going discussions between the two leaders" which led to what appeared to be a surrender. I'm sure it's explained somewhere in a comment on the video.
okay, lets consider that in a killing based game, NOT ONE PERSON on the pro side went positive k/d. They did not control any objective for any significant amount of time, and their tactics could best be described as an odd mix of lemmings and the zerg(zerg for tactics, lemmings for effectiveness)
no comments explaining it, only one saying that they surrendered poorly.
I have seen groups of blueberries perform better than groups of PRO. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.03.16 07:05:00 -
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There is no name to search for, I never played MAG. If you've been paying attention, I've been describing your Corp's performance based on provided evidence of previous performance(video) and my own observations(y'all suck something awful). It could just be that I never ran into any of your "good" members, but then again, with 1000 newberries, I probably never will see them.
have a good night, lemming corp guy. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.03.16 07:43:00 -
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uh huh. were those "shenanigans" combat related? If they were not then they have no bearing on the current judgement of you. the judgement is that you are, as a whole potentially as good, but as a standard worse than a group of random players.
You are a mercenary corporation, hiring yourself out to fight on the behalf of others. If you are worth less than an uncoordinated group of idiots who just learned what direction the bullets come out of on their guns(newberries), then you should be ashamed to even bear the title of mercenary.
from all the combat data I have observed with my own eyes, read, watched, and heard, your corp is actually considered a handicap on the team that has them in my eyes. I actually feel bad when we are on the same team since that means I will have to work that much harder to overcome the fact that I have guaranteed, battle tested, enemy approved failures on my team. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2013.03.16 16:52:00 -
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I just love the arguments in this thread
"pro is bad" "THIS ISN'T MAG!"
"PRO is bad at dust" "STFU DUST IS NEW GAEM!"
Never once do you try to even defend, or say you aren't bad, you just keep trying to come up with some reason that everyone should respect you for being the spambot of the game.
Oh, and on the planetary warfare, I don't think they actually have 16 good players to field.
I don't hate on your for your terribad attempts to threaten people into joining, or for the general ****-poor attitude of your members. I hate on you because you are terrible at this game, pure and simple. You are considered a handicap to the team you are on, I am happy when you are on the other team as I know that even when you have 2 DJINNs on your side, it's still a likelihood that my side will win due to your overwhelming incompetence dragging even the best of players down. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.03.16 17:18:00 -
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yeah, brag about your numbers all you want, you can only field 16 at a time. 16 at best average players versus 16 of these "elite" players who have the better teamwork, suits, guns, and map advantage due to being on their home turf. you can't even win when there is no map advantage or the map is advantageous in your favor.
now then, I'll even give you the benefit of the doubt and say those 16 you field may even be better than the average blueberry(unlikely, I know but bear with me) you're still going up against other corps that recruit well, not with trying to bully random people into joining, but by field testing blueberries(sending out a non-filled squad and seeing if anyone joins, and if they do, seeing how well they respond to orders, and how good they are with their weapon of choice) Finding out their skillset and working them into the group so each squad is balanced in a tactical manner.
tell me, who do you think is going to win, the well-equipped, used to working with each other, squad of the best an "elite" corp has to offer, or your group of people who for all we know are meeting for the first time due to your corp's insistence on quantity over quality. I know which side I'd bet ISK. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.03.16 17:57:00 -
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ContraBanJoe wrote:gbghg wrote:Medic 1879 wrote:Government CheeseBurger wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:FYI this is an English forum only so you might wanna change that scribble you got there. and your too late with the pic. already saw it posted ealier. Thanks for playing! And another great example why we do not allow 11 year old kids in the corp. How would you know if you have any kids in your corp seing as everyone and thier dog gets recruitment mail from your corp? Seriously though I am not going to hate on PRO simply becasue everyone else is it is an achievement getting so many players into your corp and if you are training them then kudos better blueberries benefits us all. Also thanks CBJ I got a few messages asking me to join but I replied asking to be removed from the mailing list and it seems to have worked. I'm with medic here but i have to say this PXRXO has standards for recruitment? Yes.
I believe it's called having a pulse, right? no skill reqs, no trying to get the right mindset for your corp, just "breathes air" and "can be bullied into joining the corp that instantly marks you as one of the slow kids in class" |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.03.16 18:04:00 -
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If you haven't gathered, I'm not a very nice person, and I have a very low opinion of PRO. |
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Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.03.16 18:43:00 -
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The community is better off with you guys taking all the crap players, your corporation serves as an instant identifier of who the winning team is going to be, the side that has fewer of you. I actually feel bad playing against you, its like going into the "special" class and beating one of the kids in chess, yeah I won, but there was no challenge.
So congratulations, you actually manage to make me not want to play against you because it robs me of the feeling of a legitimate victory over a competent enemy. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2013.03.16 22:27:00 -
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You can attack different districts at once, you can only field 16 mercs of degrading quality(assuming you send your best in descending order) to each battlefield
ergo, you can only field 16 mercs in any given attack on a district. so while 4-6 people hold the line against your top 16, the rest will be killing their way through the rest of your units, repelling the attack, and costing you(assuming 10 districts as you did) 200 million isk without accounting for things like cost of tanks, equipment, and the like.
also, mercs can be temp-hired to hold a district, just in case of lacking numbers of people who have fun killing lemmingzergs. so basically, for the right price, your numbers(your corp's sole redeeming feature) are insignificant. so basically the only people you'll be able to beat are severely poor newberries, then they'll complain, and people may decide to go after you pro bono. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2013.03.17 06:45:00 -
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you're outclassed, but you have money... what, are you going to hire people to do your fighting for you, or just try to pay the other team to throw the match?
the other pro's seem to think you have more players than everyone else can kill. Kind of a stupid strategy to me, but then again, I fight to preserve teamates, they have the good suits, the good weapons, I'm a distraction at best, a killer if unnoticed, a hunter of enemy vehicles, and a snappy dresser(hawaiian shirt is best shirt) |
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