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Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.03.13 04:38:00 -
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Hey there, many members wish to see sandbox outside of combat gameplay, which is wonderful.
However that's a big implementation, CCP would have to work around the Programming, Economics, cause and effects, and forecast the scenarios. For a Free to Play game, that sounds like a lot of work.
So what if the skill books required to access hypothetical non combat related sandbox toys (like mining equipment, exploratory mission license, market and trade, etc.) cost Aurum so the non combat work is paid off via people using the non combat sandbox.
Not to mention the fact that things seem to get put into production faster if it costs Aurum (Notice all those Aurum dropsuits they're pooping out?)
What are the community's thoughts on Aurum Skillbooks? |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.03.13 04:43:00 -
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Well here's the thing with adding items that are variants of what's already established in the game. It doesn't take much more than copying a template, change the appropriate values, add/alter text, give it it's name and unique reference number for the system to be able to load the appropriate values. It's rather quick and easy to do when established templates are available. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.03.13 04:46:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Well here's the thing with adding items that are variants of what's already established in the game. It doesn't take much more than copying a template, change the appropriate values, add/alter text, give it it's name and unique reference number for the system to be able to load the appropriate values. It's rather quick and easy to do when established templates are available.
Ok that makes sense, but it still seems that making lucrative Aurum items would outweigh the making of ISK items or so it should seem (in the mentality of a CCP business person). |
RINON114
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Posted - 2013.03.13 07:02:00 -
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Disagree entirely. Making Aurum versions that far outweigh standard non-combat gear is, however something I can agree on. Locking people out of the most requested part of this game would be a heinous act. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.03.16 23:14:00 -
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The intent or AUR gear is to allow players access to gear a level or two earlier. It is not meant to be a pay to win option. This is why there will never be AUR skill books and all skill books will be ISK and available to all characters.
CCP doesn't think like most businesses when it comes to Eve or Dust. You make a mistake by assuming they're like other businesses that want to bleed you left and right for every little bit of cash they can manage. Much like Microsoft and many other game developers. |
Garth Mandra
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.03.17 01:22:00 -
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That could be a workable idea. Even having all 'advanced' skillbooks (proficiency ones, specialised dropsuits when they come out, mauraders, etc) aurum ones could work.
However I don't think this idea is even remotely plausible until the secondary market is in place. I really hope that the secondary market will be in place soon so that CCP can truthfully claim the game as not pay to win. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.03.17 02:04:00 -
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RINON114 wrote:Disagree entirely. Making Aurum versions that far outweigh standard non-combat gear is, however something I can agree on. Locking people out of the most requested part of this game would be a heinous act.
It's drawing a line between Dust and Eve.
If you want to mine, manufacture, and salvage play Eve.
If you want to shoot, play fast, action action ra ra! then play Dust.
But you see, you shouldn't be able to do everything in Dust. It defeats the purpose of Eve. So to balance Dust and keep it from taking over areas of Eve that may be attractive, I see that it would be rather fitting to have Dust users use Aurum to access it.
Eve has a playing fee and detracting from it is actually detracting from Money. It's all from business point of view, and a poor persons, I have no Aurum. But the skills would sure make me get some Aurum. |
RINON114
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Posted - 2013.03.17 07:36:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:RINON114 wrote:Disagree entirely. Making Aurum versions that far outweigh standard non-combat gear is, however something I can agree on. Locking people out of the most requested part of this game would be a heinous act. It's drawing a line between Dust and Eve. If you want to mine, manufacture, and salvage play Eve. If you want to shoot, play fast, action action ra ra! then play Dust. But you see, you shouldn't be able to do everything in Dust. It defeats the purpose of Eve. So to balance Dust and keep it from taking over areas of Eve that may be attractive, I see that it would be rather fitting to have Dust users use Aurum to access it. Eve has a playing fee and detracting from it is actually detracting from Money. It's all from business point of view, and a poor persons, I have no Aurum. But the skills would sure make me get some Aurum.
The thing is, I only see Dust becoming more like EVE until only primary gameplay is a difference (shooting vs piloting) so introducing portions of the game that were locked to Aurum would go against having a free to play game. If CCP told us from the outset that we would pay to play I would have no problem accepting this, but the game is F2P.
Like I said earlier, locking players out of the most requested part of the game for any reason is a heinous act. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.03.17 07:51:00 -
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RINON114 wrote:
The thing is, I only see Dust becoming more like EVE until only primary gameplay is a difference (shooting vs piloting) so introducing portions of the game that were locked to Aurum would go against having a free to play game. If CCP told us from the outset that we would pay to play I would have no problem accepting this, but the game is F2P.
Like I said earlier, locking players out of the most requested part of the game for any reason is a heinous act.
There are other ways to make Aurum...*Wink!* It's not like we have to purchase the add on in the PS store.. |
RINON114
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Posted - 2013.03.17 10:29:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:RINON114 wrote:
The thing is, I only see Dust becoming more like EVE until only primary gameplay is a difference (shooting vs piloting) so introducing portions of the game that were locked to Aurum would go against having a free to play game. If CCP told us from the outset that we would pay to play I would have no problem accepting this, but the game is F2P.
Like I said earlier, locking players out of the most requested part of the game for any reason is a heinous act.
There are other ways to make Aurum...*Wink!* It's not like we have to purchase the add on in the PS store..
That as may be, but I'd rather circumvent any heinous practices at all! |
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