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Posted - 2013.03.11 10:34:00 -
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As a proto scout i can say that i wish I didn't spec into it, The suit is entirely not worth it due to the fact that it has the least cpu and health of all the suits combined with a 3high, 3low setup, and the small advantages it does have are insignificant compared to these drawbacks. |
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Posted - 2013.03.11 10:36:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Seems like the only 2 weapons Scout are effective with is Sniper rifle and Shotgun. I use them with SMGs and ARs with reasonable success. I'm not very good with ARs in DUST, but I can use them well enough on a Scout suit (better than I can use them on an Assault) What makes you use AR better on Scout, lol that just makes no sense to me the suit doesn't add AR dmg bonus or anything. Same thing that makes me use a Sniper Rifle, Shotgun and SMG better on the Scout suit. Scan Profile. Scan Precision. Scan Radius. Sprint Speed. Strafe Speed. Max Stamina. Stamina Regen. Shield Regen. If you're good at playing to all of those strengths, you basically guarantee that almost every fight you go into will be on your terms.
These ''advantages'' are insignificant because they can all be fit unto a assault suit and then after you fit them on there you still have a slot and cpu advantage. |
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Posted - 2013.03.11 10:42:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Re-FLeX wrote:As a proto scout i can say that i wish I didn't spec into it, The suit is entirely not worth it due to the fact that it has the least cpu and health of all the suits combined with a 3high, 3low setup, and the small advantages it does have are insignificant compared to these drawbacks. Thank you! Somebody with reason. As a proto Scout I wish I went into something else there are no CLEAR advantages that make using a Scout suit worth it. Anybody who comes up with these lame strategies are mostly shot gunners that thing the Scout is amazing only cause it gives them the speed to use their 1shot kill weapon.
Assault-shotgun is a more viable option, just look at Annie Oakley from STB, ~700HP proto assault suit with a proto shotgun vs a ~400 HP proto scout that cant even fit a advanced shotgun on it if you want 400HP = LMAO at people saying shotgun scout is the most OP tactic out there. |
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Posted - 2013.03.11 11:01:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Re-FLeX wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Scan Profile. Scan Precision. Scan Radius. Sprint Speed. Strafe Speed. Max Stamina. Stamina Regen. Shield Regen. These ''advantages'' are insignificant because they can all be fit unto a assault suit and then after you fit them on there you still have a slot and cpu advantage. Scan Precision and Profile can be matched with a single Low Slot module each. Scan Radius needs at least 2 modules to match. Just the scanning capabilities requires 4 Low Slots on your Assault suit. Matching the Scout's Shield Regen capabilities requires 2 Shield Rechargers, and a Shield Regulator Now you're up to 2 High and 5 Low Slots. You still haven't touched Stamina, and forgot to address Sprint Speed (which there's also a module for). I don't have access to my PS3 and the game right now, so I might be getting something mixed up, but I worked out last night that an Assault would need to use 2 High Slots and at least 7 (SEVEN) Low Slots to match all the capabilities that there are actually modules for, and there are still things the Scout can do that the Assault can't.
Wrong, one shield recharger puts you up to almost 40HP/s, since scan precision and profile are barely used in this game all youll ever need is maybe one profile dampener, and maxing the vigor skill tree gives you enough stamina to run a marathon with in an assault suit. also the scout has the same depleted recharge delay and almost the same recharge delay as an assault
P.S if you look closely i didn't underline sprint speed for a reason, but a 10% increase over the major drawbacks the suit have arent cutting it for me. i can do 10x better in an assault suit with any weapon then what a scout suit will ever offer me. |
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Posted - 2013.03.11 11:05:00 -
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Since this topic has completely derailed to scout fanboy's who use nothing other then a scout just for personal preference and think the minor advantages it has over the major drawbacks that get slapped in your face when you use it taking over this thread, there's no further points to be making.
Everybody knows the scout is UP (not up to par for the particular role it is supposed to fullfill) stop trying to make sense out of why it is not.
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Posted - 2013.03.11 11:07:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Re-FLeX wrote:Wrong, one shield recharger puts you up to almost 40HP/s, since scan precision and profile are barely used in this game all youll ever need is maybe one profile dampener, and maxing the vigor skill tree gives you enough stamina to run a marathon with in an assault suit. also the scout has the same depleted recharge delay and almost the same recharge delay as an assault
P.S if you look closely i didn't underline sprint speed for a reason, but a 10% increase over the major drawbacks the suit have arent cutting it for me. i can do 10x better in an assault suit with any weapon then what a scout suit will ever offer me. I'm wrong about needing two rechargers because one ALMOST gets you there? No, you're still falling short without a second. And Scan Precision and Radius are a large part of how I use my Scout suit. Just because YOU don't take advantage of those benefits, doesn't mean they aren't there, and doesn't mean they can't be turned to the Scout's advantage. Yes, you can max out Vigor and your Assault can do a lot, but it's still falling WELL short of what a Scout can do with the same skills - and actually slightly short of the Scout WITHOUT the skills.
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Posted - 2013.03.11 11:23:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:You're the one who included Scan Precision and Radius on your list of stats the Assault can match. Then you claimed they don't matter (when you're good with a Scout, they're a core reason WHY the Scout is a good suit) and dismissed the fact that YOU HAD CHOSEN TO INCLUDE THEM. You're welcome to try and actually back up your claims, any time you like. If you can prove me wrong, I'm willing to admit it. But so far, you haven't done so.
You're the one that is so obsessed with the insignificant advantages the scout has over the assault suit that you think makes the suit better then an assault suit wich is entirely FALSE also STOP putting CAPS on words that you're trying to EXPRESS it makes you LOOK like an IDIOT.
P.S im outta here you idiots don't know what your talking about, once you spec into scout suits and have at least 6 mill specced into it then come crying back to me and ill give you a shoulder k?
Untill then i'll let sleepy zan slap the **** out of your facts, because i'm tired of typing english even though it's not a good language for me to explain the points im trying to make. |
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